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Primordial

  • 2015
  • TV-MA
  • 2h 2min
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4,0/10
147
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Primordial (2015)
ComédieCriminalitéDrameHorreurThrillerComédie noire

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueValerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.

  • Réalisation
    • Eric Widing
  • Scénario
    • Eric Widing
  • Casting principal
    • Marylee Osborne
    • Erin R. Ryan
    • Christopher Rowley
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  • NOTE IMDb
    4,0/10
    147
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Eric Widing
    • Scénario
      • Eric Widing
    • Casting principal
      • Marylee Osborne
      • Erin R. Ryan
      • Christopher Rowley
    • 11avis d'utilisateurs
    • 4avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Récompenses
      • 2 nominations au total

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    Rôles principaux24

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    Marylee Osborne
    • Valerie Graves
    Erin R. Ryan
    • Tina
    Christopher Rowley
    • Andy Cheney
    Adam Scott Clevenger
    • Tayshawn
    • (as Adam Clevenger)
    Josh Miller
    • Smiddy
    Titus Young Wolverton
    Titus Young Wolverton
    • Tony
    Rachel Carter
    • Jeanette
    Henrique Couto
    Henrique Couto
    • Arms Dealer
    David Denoyer
    • Hammer Smashed Victim
    Bradley Diehl
    • Stanley
    Joni Durian
    • Tiffany
    Allison Egan
    • Cassidy
    Dale Grow
    • Party Creep
    Maggie Grow
    • Colleen
    John Bradley Hambrick
    • Strangled Man in Dream
    Joe Kidd
    Joe Kidd
    • Meth Addict
    Haley Madison
    • Female Massacre Victim
    Michael William Ralston
    • Murdered Gunman
    • Réalisation
      • Eric Widing
    • Scénario
      • Eric Widing
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    10thedamakrina

    An Extreme Film From Extremely Talented People

    Primordial is a clear example of the evolution of promising director Eric Widing. By evolution I do not mean that drastic change to appeal to another "type" of audience that sadly most directors, artists, even musicians do in time, but through consistent work and the same creative process he used in Hellhounds. Widing's greatest achievement in this film comes from exploring the female psychopath mind, rather than offering us yet another male psycho perspective like thousands that are already out there. The twisted main character's personality is shown in a very crude way, without taking into consideration those female "characteristics" that women are mostly known for. Strong female characters are good for women! Valerie is the finest example of how a potentially smart woman wastes her life while not realizing her true strength.

    The intense relationship between Valerie and her friend Tina deserves a special mention just for the strong interaction they developed, which could be seen as the key path to Valerie's emotions. You know what they say, "it is the thing we love most that destroys us," in unexpected ways. I admit that I also laughed plenty of times as much as I was shocked by their performances, which is very positive in my opinion.

    I also really enjoyed Valerie's revenge. The preparation, the ritual, and the dark determination are very memorable. To kill could be a catharsis for those who deserve it. The last scene is very well made; it gave me goosebumps and kept me more engaged in the film and the character than I already was. I could also highlight Valerie's friendship with the men she later realized were dangerous bastards, which is a unique portrayal of the destructive friendships we are surrounded by in our lives. And finally, that sadomasochistic lesbian scene, I must confess, really pleased my personal sexual aesthetic taste.

    On the technical side, the editing, lighting and music create an effective atmosphere. Especially the music since I am myself an extreme metal lover. What else could mix better than prolonged sadistic violence and extreme music?

    In spite of these statements, I assume that people who do not like horror or sadistic gore will not find beauty in the grotesque nature of this film. I have read some criticism on the film's disturbing content, but hey, Widing is not exactly making a comedy. Though, for those who enjoy the genre I would give you my highest recommendation with confidence. Here in Latin America, I have already shown this film to two people who also loved it.

    I am definitely looking forward to seeing more of his works in the future. Widing has my unqualified professional endorsement and my deep respect.
    10jedispyder

    Eric Widing introduces us to a character's horrifying downward spiral

    This is writer/director Eric Widing's second full feature film. The first, Hellhounds, was a unique film that assaulted the senses with wide use of color and sound. In Primordial, Widing still makes use of sound to assault the senses but makes beautiful use of black and white for serene nature scenes. It was unique to see some of the high paced action with heavy metal music lead into these beautiful, serene scenes shot in black and white.

    Widing does a spectacular job with the writing and directing. Widing stated a lot of his inspiration came from things that have happened to him, that he's heard has happened, or that he's dreamed. There is a particular scene that he stated in the commentary was inspired by a dream which is truly horrifying for the viewer. The writing itself is very down-to-earth and the casual conversations felt like something friends would normally have.

    The actors were phenomenal with Marylee Osborne portraying a woman, Valerie, who is already down and out of luck finally getting to act out her darkest fantasies and going on a downward spiral into deeper alcoholism. Erin Ryan portrays Tina, one of Valerie's closest friend, who is going through some trouble herself which gives Valerie something to hold onto for majority of the film. Adam Clevenger is Tayshawn, a gangster that upon first meeting appears to be a stereotype but soon shows how well developed his character is. Clevenger brilliantly describes and performs horrendous acts with no remorse.

    Widing also inserted several easter eggs for fans of the various indie films from Ohio that the fans will get excited to see.

    Overall an excellent film that is highly recommended!
    2polarbear-28839

    Prior reviews are friends and family

    Time for honesty. I like the style, but the cred was sorely lacking. Just not believable. Unless Val was revealed to be a cyborg. Instead of her just overpowering everything, make it credible by having her out think the opponent. Little things like pulling a trigger. If she really shot that way, nothing would strike.
    9linniallenla

    Widing's Best Work!

    Like a violent descent down a spiral staircase straight to hell, with every scene you follow a young fledgling criminal as she sinks further into depressive state and slowly gives over to the darkest urges of her sadistic mind. Ending up on the wrong side of the criminals, she now finds herself hunted and her whole world crumbling around her. Eric Widing delivers an absolute punch-to-the-gut with his dramatic and grim tale of a person on the edge of sanity who may be slipping into the abyss. These actresses put on an astonishing performance that is heavy, dramatic and extremely graphic, compared to what you normally see from most of them. Experience a dark ride while watching this film, and do be careful not to let yourself give over to those sinister urges that might be hiding inside of you.
    1Mike_T-Little_Mtn_Sound_Archive

    Bad movie bolstered by reviews from folks who have reviewed ONLY this movie

    As with all my reviews, no spoilers. Only discussion on content and production.

    It is rare that I watch a movie and come away feeling like it wasn't worth the watch, no matter how small, but this is one of the few that falls in to that boat. I read reviews for movies on IMDB for everything I watch, and nearly every one has at least one "smartallic" commenting about how the acting was horrid, the movie was the worst ever made, and that they want their 90 minutes back. I detest those reviews, as they're typically written by younger watchers who want one thing, and have their expectations set prior to watching. I attempt carrying a blank slate in to a film so that there are no expectations to be shattered, achieved, or exceeded. I watch a lot of independent, low budget flicks, so it helps when there are no preconceived notions.

    That said, "Primordial/Violent Instinct" feels like a disjointed student film in its presentation and represents nothing as the nearly perfect reviews make this out. After reading each review and seeing how stellar the movie was to these folks, I was excited to watch a well made violent film. This was not the case, as it looks and feels like a homemade film.

    As the movie progresses in to the plot line illustrated in the IMDB synopsis. I actually thought it could be a decent watch, especially since it's not even 90 minutes, but was immediately turned off by the opening scenes. Once it hit the dialog it was clear that it would be a tough watch. Here's why:

    • the actors are not pros. The actors aren't even amateurs, at least based on their skill. The speaking is wooden and is delivered in monotone, with no inflection, no body language, no anything. I fully understand the direction taken here; the director hoped for an off kilter, creepy, dark movie where the characters contribute to the antithetical wickedness of the story. Sadly, the actors were so bad that this was completely missed.
    • too many "effects." Again, it is somewhat apparent what the director is going for, but the weird lighting, the digitally added screen fx (e.g. static or wavy lines) add absolutely nothing. Not only do they add nothing but they become cumbersome and annoying, especially with the terrible acting underneath. I enjoy odd fx like this when used sparingly, and for adding to a particular scene, but it's as if the director doesn't know any better, and figures "hey...the more the better."
    the music is awful. Once again, it's as if the director doesn't know any better. A film "score" should complement and add to whatever is onscreen, not detract and the music is just not good.
    • as if you didn't see this coming, the directing is high school level at best. I'll leave it at that, as it would be overly verbose to criticize everything wrong directorially.
    • the overall production is poor. I'm used to microbudget films, as not everybody who wants to make movies is funded by studios. I've seen some excellent flicks with budgets of $2500. It doesn't happen every day, but there are a fair number of decent movies made on little to no budget, so lack of money is no excuse. Ultimately it all comes down to a lack of vision and lack of execution. The editing is horrid, the special fx (if you can even call them that) are not special at all, the scenery is nothing more than your buddy's house down the street, the film looks like a home camcorder, the sound fades in and out as if it was only picked up by whatever mic was on the camcorder, and there is no evidence of any real post-production. Oh wait...they added all those visual fx and music, so there must have been some post...just nothing worth noting.


    Sadly, I really wanted to like this, as I enjoy dystopian stories with misanthropic characters. The long and the short is simple...the actual plot could make a decent film if accompanied by qualified actors and a decent director. Forget all the issues with editing, sound, post-productions...I can overlook any/all of that if the acting is convincing...something is NOT so with this one.

    There's really nothing more to add about this, and as of April 2019 this sits at an almost-6 rating. I can't imagine anyone finding enough in the flick to make the average this high. I appreciate when someone makes a film they are passionate about, even when it's not very interesting. This one, however, never even gets off the ground. Every aspect but the plot is worthless, in my opinion. Thankfully it wasn't overly long.

    If you watch the movie, give me a thumbs up if you agree or a thumbs down if you disagree. Always curious to see what people think of my opinions.

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    • Anecdotes
      The "fish hook scene" was inspired by a bizarre, but most likely fictitious, story that one of Eric Widing's high school friends told about an ex girlfriend's strange sexual preferences.
    • Citations

      Party Creep: Hey baby.

    • Versions alternatives
      A 79 minute producer's cut titled "Violent Instinct" was released in July 2016 for online streaming. The most drastic change between this version and the full length version is the intro, which opens with the black and white scene with the ghost in the attic and treats it as a dream, as opposed to the original version in which it was an ambiguous final scene. This version also cuts a lot of the first act, removing a few whole character's such as the landlady Nichole, the weird neighbor, the Boddicker family and a majority of the early scenes with Colleen. This version also shortens or removes many of the humorous scenes and has completely removed any mention or implications of the "fish hook" sex act.
    • Connexions
      Edited from Haunted House on Sorority Row (2014)
    • Bandes originales
      Prevalent Winds
      Written and Performed by Primalfrost

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    • Date de sortie
      • 20 novembre 2015 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Site officiel
      • Official Facebook
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Violent Instinct
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Dayton, Ohio, États-Unis(Valerie's House)
    • Société de production
      • Eric Widing Films
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      • 1 000 $US (estimé)
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      • 16:9 HD

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