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Die geheimnisvolle Fremde

Originaltitel: La femme du Vème
  • 2011
  • 16
  • 1 Std. 24 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
5,3/10
7343
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Ethan Hawke and Kristin Scott Thomas in Die geheimnisvolle Fremde (2011)
A college lecturer flees to Paris after a scandal costs him his job. In the City of Lights, he meets a widow who might be involved in a series of murders.
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Ein Hochschuldozent flieht nach Paris, nachdem ein Skandal ihn seinen Job gekostet hat. In der Stadt der Lichter trifft er eine Witwe, die in eine Mordserie verwickelt sein könnte.Ein Hochschuldozent flieht nach Paris, nachdem ein Skandal ihn seinen Job gekostet hat. In der Stadt der Lichter trifft er eine Witwe, die in eine Mordserie verwickelt sein könnte.Ein Hochschuldozent flieht nach Paris, nachdem ein Skandal ihn seinen Job gekostet hat. In der Stadt der Lichter trifft er eine Witwe, die in eine Mordserie verwickelt sein könnte.

  • Regie
    • Pawel Pawlikowski
  • Drehbuch
    • Douglas Kennedy
    • Pawel Pawlikowski
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Ethan Hawke
    • Kristin Scott Thomas
    • Joanna Kulig
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  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    5,3/10
    7343
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Pawel Pawlikowski
    • Drehbuch
      • Douglas Kennedy
      • Pawel Pawlikowski
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Ethan Hawke
      • Kristin Scott Thomas
      • Joanna Kulig
    • 62Benutzerrezensionen
    • 100Kritische Rezensionen
    • 57Metascore
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
    • Auszeichnungen
      • 2 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    Ethan Hawke
    Ethan Hawke
    • Tom Ricks
    Kristin Scott Thomas
    Kristin Scott Thomas
    • Margit
    Joanna Kulig
    Joanna Kulig
    • Ania
    Samir Guesmi
    Samir Guesmi
    • Sezer
    Delphine Chuillot
    Delphine Chuillot
    • Nathalie
    Julie Papillon
    • Chloé
    Geoffrey Carey
    Geoffrey Carey
    • Laurent
    Mamadou Minté
    • Omar
    • (as Mamadou Minte)
    Mohamed Aroussi
    • Moussa
    Jean-Louis Cassarino
    • Dumont
    Judith Burnett
    • Lorraine L'herbert
    Marcela Iacub
    • Isabella
    Wilfred Benaïche
    • Lieutenand Coutard
    Pierre Marcoux
    • Lawyer
    Rosine Favey
    Rosine Favey
    • Lawyer's Translator
    Anne Benoît
    Anne Benoît
    • Teacher
    Grégory Gadebois
    Grégory Gadebois
    • Lieutenant Children Unit
    • (as Grégory Gadebois de la Comédie Française)
    Donel Jack'sman
    • Customs Officer
    • (as Donel Jacks'Man)
    • Regie
      • Pawel Pawlikowski
    • Drehbuch
      • Douglas Kennedy
      • Pawel Pawlikowski
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    5gbill-74877

    Lots of talent, but doesn't come together

    Despite the promise of a collaboration between Pawel Pawlikowski, Ethan Hawke, Joanna Kulig, and Kristin Scott Thomas set in Paris, this film fizzles into a frustrating, rather dreary mess. In a nutshell, an American writer (Hawke) shows up at his ex-wife's apartment, hoping to see their daughter. She calls the police on him and he flees, and after being robbed on a train, he ends up in a seedy hotel. He takes a shady job to pay for his room, and gets involved with a couple of women, one of whom was the muse for a Hungarian author (Scott Thomas), and another who works at the hotel (Kulig). Things go south when a man trying to blackmail him turns up dead, and the muse (who is also his alibi for the evening in question) turns out to be imaginary.

    The meaning to the film is probably along the lines of an artist struggling with his own sanity, and having to make difficult choices between creative output and family, all while living in impoverished conditions. He tries to write beautiful, touching work but he's doing so in the dingiest of places, the struggle of which has been felt by a large number of artists since time began. While Kulig and Scott Thomas felt rather wasted in their parts, Hawke shows his range here and has several fine moments, which were the highlights of the film.

    Where it falls down is in the narrative, which is too vague and open-ended. I disliked the muse reveal, and thought the murder was an odd bit of drama, things that sent the story over the rails for me. I wondered about what had led to the restraining order which was alluded to early on, and wished that the film had focused more on the dynamic with his ex-wife and child, as opposed to the other women in Paris. How much of this is in the imagination of the author is subject to interpretation and that's kind of interesting, but ultimately it just doesn't come together.
    5claudio_carvalho

    Forget any Explanation and Simply Enjoy (or not)

    The American professor of literature and novelist Tom Hicks (Ethan Hawke) travels to Paris to see his beloved daughter Chloé (Julie Papillon) that lives with her mother Nathalie (Delphine Chuillot). However, Nathalie uses the restraining order to call the police and avoid letting Tom to meet Chloé.

    Tom flees from the police and takes a bus but he is tired and sleeps. When he awakes in a poor neighborhood, he finds that his luggage and money were robbed. He goes to a bar and the Polish waitress Ania (Joanna Kulig) brings a coffee for him. He asks for a room and explains that he had been robbed and she asks him to talk with the owner Sezer (Samir Guesmi) that allows him to stay in a very low budget room and pay him later. Then Sezer offers a job of night watchman in a suspect building.

    One day, Tom goes to a bookstore and is invited to a party with writers where he meets Margit Kadar (Kristin Scott Thomas), who is a translator and widow of a Hungarian writer. She gives her address and telephone to Tom. Soon Tom has a love affair with Margit at her apartment and with Ania on the roof of the bar. But Tom is also obsessed by his daughter, snooping around Chloé during the days. When his next door neighbor at the hotel that is blackmailing Tom is found dead, his only alibi is Margit. But when the police officers go to her place, they discover that she had committed suicide many years ago.

    "La femme du Vème" is one of those movies like "Triangle" where there is no explanation for bizarre and surrealistic situations. I am not sure whether the director Pawel Pawlikowski had this intention or not, but forget any explanation about the plot and simply enjoy (or not) the movie.

    David Lynch is the master of this style while Claude Chabrol was the French master of thrillers with open endings to make the viewer think and discuss possibilities. But this is the practically unknown Pawel Pawlikowski and I was disappointed with the lack of conclusion of the good plot. But as an unconditional fan of Kristin Scott Thomas and Ethan Hawke, I do not regret this strange experience. My vote is five.

    Title (Brazil): "Estranha Obsessão" ("Weird Obsession")
    TokyoGyaru

    What?

    I really like Ethan Hawke as an actor. I don't even know why I do. He wasn't really on my radar until Sinister, and I've worked my way back from there. But as much as I enjoy him acting (if not his films themselves aside from Sinister and Daybreakers), even that can't make me say this was a good film, and as much as I enjoy abstraction and expression, there are some things I'm left not understanding, but the film is unfortunately too boring and underwhelming to have warranted a thousand think pieces by film essayists, so I'm left scrunching my face somewhat.

    I enjoyed Ethan, at least, but I'd never recommend this or watch this again. It's not fascinatingly vague and open to interpretation; it's just vague. It's clearly a movie pretending to be something it's not. I was sitting here thinking a fascinating story would have been about his same situation (sans the family I couldn't care less about) but focusing on his "job" in the locked room. There were many mysteries and thrills they could have made out of it instead of the pretentious, half-baked, poorly paced, dull "story" we actually got. (Also, the characterization of the immigrant characters is suspect.)
    6shuawilmot

    Not concrete

    Watch this with a group and have a great discussion on questions like: What happened in that movie? What was that about? How much of the content was symbolic and how much of it was actually concrete?

    Or watch it alone and become miserably confused.
    7johnklem

    Moments of brilliance in another Paris

    A phenomenally ambitious, mostly successful film that (almost) atones for the cardinal sin that was Woody Allen's Midnight in Paris. It says so much about cinema audiences that Midnight in Paris was so popular. Here's a film that is startlingly beautiful, utterly intriguing and perfectly cast, and with a drop dead gorgeous soundtrack. The result? A lot of very angry people because... it didn't make sense. No-one mentions that the "Midnight" script had holes you could drive a truck through, because they had a good time. Wake up, people! You're getting the cinema you deserve and it ain't pretty. Or maybe it is. How about Mark Wahlberg and a teddy bear? There you go. That works. Don't blame Hollywood (where I live and work). You're voting with your wallets. Films like The Woman in the Fifth that need intellectual and emotional input from its audience are being stoned to death. The world's becoming a Disney theme park and you're all accessories after the fact. If you think that the word "consumer" is an insult, there's still hope. Take a moment. Watch this film. It isn't perfect. The balance between physical and metaphysical is off and therein lies the confusion. Kieslowski (another obvious comparison) would have handled it better but he wasn't hampered by a literary source when he made La Double Vie. But... it's fKKKing gorgeous. Difficult, challenging, flawed? Yes, but I'll take it over the processed pap that is the American mainstream anytime.

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      This is the second film where Kristin Scott Thomas washes the hair of the main character. The first was "The English Patient".
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      Featured in The Big Picture: February 2012 (2012)
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      Written by Julian Tuwim

      Performed bz Ewa Demarczyk

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 16. November 2011 (Frankreich)
    • Herkunftsländer
      • Frankreich
      • Polen
      • Vereinigtes Königreich
    • Offizielle Standorte
      • Official site
      • TVP VOD
    • Sprachen
      • Englisch
      • Französisch
      • Polnisch
    • Auch bekannt als
      • The Woman in the Fifth
    • Drehorte
      • 131 Rue des Poissonniers, Paris 18, Paris, Frankreich(Au bon Coin bar and hotel)
    • Produktionsfirmen
      • Haut et Court
      • Film4
      • UK Film Council
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    • Bruttoertrag in den USA und Kanada
      • 113.800 $
    • Eröffnungswochenende in den USA und in Kanada
      • 33.011 $
      • 17. Juni 2012
    • Weltweiter Bruttoertrag
      • 662.887 $
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      • 1 Std. 24 Min.(84 min)
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