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Goyas Geister

Originaltitel: Goya's Ghosts
  • 2006
  • 12
  • 1 Std. 53 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
6,9/10
32.729
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Goyas Geister (2006)
Theatrical Trailer from Samuel Goldwyn
trailer wiedergeben2:27
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DokudramaZeitraum: DramaBiographieDramaGeschichte

Der Maler Francisco Goya sieht sich mit dem Skandal um seine Muse konfrontiert, die von einem Mönch der Ketzerei beschuldigt wird.Der Maler Francisco Goya sieht sich mit dem Skandal um seine Muse konfrontiert, die von einem Mönch der Ketzerei beschuldigt wird.Der Maler Francisco Goya sieht sich mit dem Skandal um seine Muse konfrontiert, die von einem Mönch der Ketzerei beschuldigt wird.

  • Regie
    • Milos Forman
  • Drehbuch
    • Milos Forman
    • Jean-Claude Carrière
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Javier Bardem
    • Natalie Portman
    • Stellan Skarsgård
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    6,9/10
    32.729
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Milos Forman
    • Drehbuch
      • Milos Forman
      • Jean-Claude Carrière
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Javier Bardem
      • Natalie Portman
      • Stellan Skarsgård
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    • Auszeichnungen
      • 2 Gewinne & 5 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    Javier Bardem
    Javier Bardem
    • Lorenzo
    Natalie Portman
    Natalie Portman
    • Inés…
    Stellan Skarsgård
    Stellan Skarsgård
    • Francisco Goya
    Randy Quaid
    Randy Quaid
    • King Carlos IV
    José Luis Gómez
    José Luis Gómez
    • Tomás Bilbatúa
    Michael Lonsdale
    Michael Lonsdale
    • Inquisitor General
    Blanca Portillo
    Blanca Portillo
    • Queen María Luisa
    Mabel Rivera
    Mabel Rivera
    • María Isabel Bilbatúa
    Unax Ugalde
    Unax Ugalde
    • Ángel Bilbatúa
    Fernando Tielve
    Fernando Tielve
    • Álvaro Bilbatúa
    David Calder
    David Calder
    • Monk 1
    Frank Baker
    Frank Baker
    • Monk 2
    Ramón Langa
    • Hooded Monk
    Manuel de Blas
    Manuel de Blas
    • Pyre Monk
    Andrés Lima
    • Confiscating Monk
    Emilio Linder
    • Churchman 1
    José María Sacristán
    • Churchman 2
    Wael Al-Moubayed
    • Goya's Translator
    • Regie
      • Milos Forman
    • Drehbuch
      • Milos Forman
      • Jean-Claude Carrière
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    7RonellSowes

    A veering and sardonic film

    The story of the Spanish Inquisition,Napoleanic Wars, a monk and a merchant's daughter and how they affected Francisco Goya.

    The movie's plot is complicated,perhaps too complicated, filled with turns and changes its trajectory just when you think it's going one way. You could say that though the story is told from Goya's(Sarsgard) perspective and is primarily advanced by what happens to Ines(Portman) the main character is Lorenzo(Bardem). Its how Lorenzo deals with these situations and how he affects the others that is key. The movie was released a year before No Country For Old Men but Bardem still brings much of the evil and menace he did to Anton Chigurh to this role. However, his role in this film,Lorenzo, is very different and not a deranged killer but more of a scoundrel who carefully picks his tune according to who's in power. Natalie Portman gives a strong performance or performances I should say as she plays two characters. I found this to be distracting as nobody is so identical to their parents but the film is a fictional story.

    The film is filled with irony and sardonic moments such as how the Inquistor General sentences Lorenzo to death, then Lorenzo comes to power and orders him to the same fate and ultimately the Inquistor General is restored to power and orders Lorenzo's execution which is carried out successfully this time. Or the ending shot of Lorenzo's dead body being carted off with an insane Ines walking beside carrying an orphaned baby and holding his hand.

    The film was written and directed by Milos Forman and not though it isn't of the quality One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest or Amadeus it is certainly entertaining and powerful.
    8Quinoa1984

    For fans of Bunuel (yes, Bunuel), it's worth seeing

    I read someone else's comment on IMDb (much more adulatory than I would be for Goya's Ghosts), who said that it was a masterpiece not only for Milos Forman and co-writer Jean-Claude Carriere, but for Luis Bunuel too. And that intrigued me even more than I was already in anticipation for the film, merely before as a Forman fan. Upon seeing it I can understand the enthusiasm, and had a kind of private, nearly perverse pleasure in recognizing (maybe too obviously on a subjective level) little things that popped up when Carriere and Bunuel collaborated on some of the late master's best works. On the other hand, for those not too familiar with films like the Phantom of Liberty, the Milky Way or That Obscure Object of Desire, Goya's Ghosts may seem like strong, strange film-making that starts to go a little more haywire after the half-way title card "15 Years Later" (possibly another in-joke for Un Chien Andalou fans) pops up. But it's not only certain things regarding the line between true drama and surrealism that marks Forman's latest as something interesting.

    Matter of fact, it is a flawed film, notably in the casting of Stellan Skarsgaard as Goya himself. Why cast a Swedish actor, who usually isn't necessarily bad in the character-actor parts he takes on, in the role of one of the most decadent and ribald *Spanish* artists in the past 250 years of worldwide painting? Skarsgaard doesn't do too much to elevate the part outside of being the guy on the sidelines, dramatically trying to not get too much into the situations, at first, but then soon becoming like a match-maker in the second half when "daughter" drama happens between an ex-"Brother" and an ex-prisoner-of-inquisition. And yet, there is perfect casting in having Barden as the Brother Lorenzo, who doesn't change in how he tries to push aside any of the problems in his life that he doesn't want to deal with, be it questions of real faith, taking care of a certain lost woman, and his illegitimate child, even as he changes from man of the cloth to revolutionary in several years time. Seeing him in the first half in that black robe, his eyes dark and leering of Goya and even the Church to an extent, it's not wonder that he's one of the most sought-out actors of his time. And even better then that, as far as conventions go, he gets the truest kind of arc with his character.

    Then there's Natalie Portman who, as probably as something of both an in-joke/reversal of the tactic used in 'Obscure Object' with two actresses playing the same woman, and a sort of disintegration-of-soul aspect that Forman might be after ambivalently, embodies the crushed innocence of repressive religion. Ines is tossed into a prison following a confession- whether true or not is left nicely vague- that she's Jewish following a questioning of what she ate, and left for more than a decade. Seeing her in this section it's clear she's lucid in her presentation of a simple characterization: sweet and naive, then later torn into oblivion by insanity and a near absurd desperation to find the child she birthed while in prison. When she plays the daughter it's a little more flat and pat, as all we see of her is as a 14 year-old (yes, 14 year-old) harlot. This mixed-up matching of actors (plus a few bits with Randy Quaid as a well-played pudgy king) is set to a backdrop of Spain where society is merciless and without much compromise unless the regime changes, which is towards one way (the ultra strict Catholics) or the other (the flawed Napoleon revolution people). Meanwhile, Goya, deaf, sketches away in drawings that today seem right out of graphic novels.

    As mentioned, one may get some moments of random surprise as opposed to fully stark costume drama; the first appearance of Portman's daughter played by herself is a little doozy; the way the cardinal tells his choir boy to keep reading the passage even as the French soldier on horseback rides in with a decree, then shoots the boy midway through; the emergence of the British army going towards and swarming around a cart of 15 prostitutes left out in a field; the very last scene, where a cart carrying a dead man is followed by...say no more. So there is a drawback, or more than one at any rate, to Forman going for telling about the nature of the society around Goya than too much about Goya himself. It is a disappointment too to not get entirely, aside from the 'her face haunts me from that painting' logic, as to why Goya is so infatuated with Ines and her plight in the first place. There's not much to be seen into the man who drew such scandalous drawings whilst being the king's painter. What we get instead, which is intriguing and involving, if not totally successful, a story of corruption from the 'Powers-That-Be', and when it strikes at this Forman and Carriere get some good, juicy entertainment.
    9latinese

    A Bleak Masterpiece on the Nightmare of History

    I think Goya is after all just a pretext. What Forman wanted to talk about is how people are overwhelmed by history. It's a difficult idea to be grasped for people who live in wealthy societies where nothing much happens and the biggest problems are having more money than you already have and what to do on Saturday night. But Forman manages to show you how you can be powerless and doomed when history moves fast--too fast. The real protagonist of the story is not the painter, but the former Dominican priest, whose life is totally changed--and ultimately destroyed--by the big historical events (the French Revolution, the French invasion of Spain, the English invasion of Spain, the Restoration). The same may be said for the other characters in the story. Goya is there as a witness, and as the symbolic figure of the artist who manages to create something even out of utter destruction. One could say that Goya's Ghosts are exactly those people and events Goya witnessed and can't get rid of, so that he has to turn them into drawings and paintings; but the term "ghost" also refers to what individuals are like in those moments when everything is changing and moving towards God knows what goal. The priest and the young girl and all the other people in the story are just pawns of history, who strut and fret on the stage and then disappear. Ghosts, because they can be annihilated in any moment. It's a sad truth, but it's truth, notwithstanding Hollywood's mythologies of super-heroes that can win against all odds. Joyce said that history is a nightmare one tries to wake up from; Forman showed us the nightmare, and the last nightmarish scene of this movie is one of those you can't forget.
    6SnoopyStyle

    great first half

    It's 1792 Madrid. The Inquisition is interested in painter Francisco Goya (Stellan Skarsgård)'s provocative art. Luckily for him, brother Lorenzo Casamares (Javier Bardem) is his supportive patron. Inés Bilbatúa (Natalie Portman) is brought into the Inquisition for not eating pork. She is accused of being a Judaiser and put into a stress position called The Question. Her rich merchant father asks Goya to invite Lorenzo for dinner. He in turn puts Lorenzo into The Question to coerce an outlandish confession. He blackmails Lorenzo to help get Inés released.

    The first hour is terrific. It has dark and tense turns. The characters are great. It builds up a compelling drama. The first problem starts with the family letting Goya leave as they torture Lorenzo. He could easily have gone to the authorities. It's a small logic break but then the story expands in scope and out of shape. This could have been a great movie if it stayed small. Milos Forman goes crazy and then the French invades. The second half is more convoluted and there are too many convenient turns. By way of explaining, I almost half-believed in this as a real Goya story. Granted, I don't know anything about the artist but these characters seem real enough. By the second half, there is no chance that this is anywhere near reality. This is half of a great movie.
    9Hughmn

    Don't believe the critics - See This Film!!!

    There is one great flaw here that almost everyone mentions... and it's true. The accents of the non-Spanish actors clash terribly with the Spanish ones, as well as with each other. That's a real flaw, but if you can get past that, there's a great film waiting to be seen. I found I forgot all about it after the first 10 minutes. The critics just don't get this film. A lot of regular people seem to miss it too. They want a film with a typical "leading" role. They want their morality tales (which this certainly IS) delivered in easy shades of Black and White... no gray. They don't understand films where the title character is primarily an Observer. Sometimes that CAN be dissatisfying, but here the Observer is a genuine genius. Some people want him to be a moral giant, but he's not, he's simply an observer who has actualized the doctor's oath: First, do no harm. This is a brilliant story, and a morally complex one, too. There are some parallels to America in Iraq, though that is not the primary goal. This story illuminates the folly of any regime, liberal or conservative, as each picks its friends and foes, taking 180 degree turns from whoever was last in power. Javier Bardem gives an incredibly canny performance! Natalie Portman is totally unsentimental and totally committed to her multiple roles: just great! Stellan Skarsgard threw me off at first with the sound of his voice, but builds a performance of power and truth, in spite of it. Randy Quaid was a small revelation. And of course the film looks and sounds spectacular, with it's numerous and detailed textures, compositions and sounds. If you want to think; if you like having pat assumptions challenged; if you love people and history and art: see it!

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      When asked why a film about such a quintessentially Spanish artist was made in English, the director replied "I don't speak Spanish."
    • Patzer
      When Goya unveils the unflattering portrait of the queen, she is deeply offended. Actually, queen Maria Louisa liked that portrait so much that she made Goya the first court painter.
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      [Bonaparte and Lorenzo are looking at paintings of Maria Luisa]

      Joseph Bonaparte: I met her once... don't recall her being quite so ugly though. How did she have so many lovers?

      Brother Lorenzo: [smiling] She was the Queen, Your Majesty.

    • Verbindungen
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry/Goya's Ghosts/Interview/No Reservations/Sunshine (2007)
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      Funeral March (Opening Title)
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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 23. November 2006 (Deutschland)
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      • Spanien
      • Vereinigte Staaten
    • Sprache
      • Englisch
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      • Segovia, Castilla y León, Spanien
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      • 50.000.000 $ (geschätzt)
    • Bruttoertrag in den USA und Kanada
      • 1.000.626 $
    • Eröffnungswochenende in den USA und in Kanada
      • 159.671 $
      • 22. Juli 2007
    • Weltweiter Bruttoertrag
      • 9.448.082 $
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      • 1 Std. 53 Min.(113 min)
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