Profundo carmesí
- 1996
- 1 Std. 55 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,2/10
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IHRE BEWERTUNG
Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuThe life of a man who preys on unsuspecting women for a living is changed when he finds an accomplice in the woman who loves and controls him.The life of a man who preys on unsuspecting women for a living is changed when he finds an accomplice in the woman who loves and controls him.The life of a man who preys on unsuspecting women for a living is changed when he finds an accomplice in the woman who loves and controls him.
- Regie
- Drehbuch
- Hauptbesetzung
- Auszeichnungen
- 20 Gewinne & 11 Nominierungen insgesamt
Giovani Florido
- Carlitos
- (as Giovanni Florido)
Fernando Palavicini
- Don Dimas
- (as Fernando Soler P.)
Alexandra Vicencio
- Imelda
- (as Alexandra Vincenzio)
Rene Pereyra
- Iduarte
- (as René Pereyra)
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Mexican director Arturo Ripstein delivers one good drama after the other, and in so doing shows us ever changing aspects of this surprisingly rich country, so unfairly characterized around the world by cliched stereotypes. Though this crime drama doesn't help Mexico's image as a crime-ridden country throughout its history, it does tell a compelling story, free of cliches, of obsessed love driven to serial killings in an unusual road movie. This description, though long, sums up PROFUNDO CARMESI. Ripstein's direction is enhanced by the dramatic presence of Spain's Marisa Paredes in a crucial role. A must for those interested in contemporary Latin American cinema.
If you haven't seen The Honeymoon Killers (1970), I feel it should be recommended to watch that before Deep Crimson. Its not necessary of course but one might appreciate both films a little more when the original is experienced first, generally speaking. I also think Deep Crimson is a tad better than the 1970 original, but they're pretty close and each has its pros over the other depending on your perspective. Without mentioning the plot details, I'll focus on style first. Honeymoon Killers was shot in black and white while giving off an almost amateur film/documentary vibe which gives it a gritty edge. It also seemed to mostly be shot in small interior spaces, giving a claustrophobic feel.
Crimson might have a more typical feel throughout the first three quarters, but its still beautifully shot, especially the fourth act which takes advantage of wide open spaces. My memory might have failed me but I think Deep Crimson did a better job with the psychological aspects of the characters. Both films are dark in subject but Crimson left me with a depressed feeling, like I shouldn't have seen what I just saw.
Crimson might have a more typical feel throughout the first three quarters, but its still beautifully shot, especially the fourth act which takes advantage of wide open spaces. My memory might have failed me but I think Deep Crimson did a better job with the psychological aspects of the characters. Both films are dark in subject but Crimson left me with a depressed feeling, like I shouldn't have seen what I just saw.
The plot has been commented by other viewers, so let's move on. I saw this movie when it came out in theaters and loved it, especially the development of the plot (based on the same true events portrayed in Leonard Kastle's cult classic "The Honeymoon Killers") and the way Ripstein expertly evolves from black humor to suspense to bloody tragedy. I also loved the bolero-like title (say it in Spanish -Profundo Carmesí- beauuutiful), the choice of colors (thick greens, reds, blacks and browns), the set decoration, the actors, the all-imposing Catholic symbols and Catholic guilt which are so present in Latin American cultures...
So I thought it was a film about SICK love and misleading appearances, how harmless-looking people can hide sick violent personalities that may ignite under certain circumstances, never to return to what they were before.
A few years later, I happened to see an interview with Ripstein about this film, which urged me to see it again. He said it was a film about the dangers of romantic passion, tout court -- in the sense that passionate love is just one step away from isolation from society's values and conventions - and I thought "yes, this makes sense!". "Profundo..." is (also) about the pathological potential of any passionate love: the anti-social, selfish, self-consuming and potentially destructive behavior a love affair can trigger, to the risk of excluding friends, family and professional life from the lovers' agenda, and when nothing really matters except each other, their plans and their being together against all odds or reasons. Coral's behavior, dumping her children, lying, stealing, killing, marching on regardless of everyone else's feelings or actual physical integrity is a depiction of a sick personality...or is just a step or two further than the average person "madly" in love??
"Profundo Carmesí" is great, but do I have to mention not to expect anything uplifting? My vote: a good 8 out of 10, just don't see it if you've been recently dumped by your lover/husband/wife; it might give you bad ideas!!
So I thought it was a film about SICK love and misleading appearances, how harmless-looking people can hide sick violent personalities that may ignite under certain circumstances, never to return to what they were before.
A few years later, I happened to see an interview with Ripstein about this film, which urged me to see it again. He said it was a film about the dangers of romantic passion, tout court -- in the sense that passionate love is just one step away from isolation from society's values and conventions - and I thought "yes, this makes sense!". "Profundo..." is (also) about the pathological potential of any passionate love: the anti-social, selfish, self-consuming and potentially destructive behavior a love affair can trigger, to the risk of excluding friends, family and professional life from the lovers' agenda, and when nothing really matters except each other, their plans and their being together against all odds or reasons. Coral's behavior, dumping her children, lying, stealing, killing, marching on regardless of everyone else's feelings or actual physical integrity is a depiction of a sick personality...or is just a step or two further than the average person "madly" in love??
"Profundo Carmesí" is great, but do I have to mention not to expect anything uplifting? My vote: a good 8 out of 10, just don't see it if you've been recently dumped by your lover/husband/wife; it might give you bad ideas!!
The best Mexican cinema has its roots firmly planted in popular genres
"Deep Crimson" is a crime film, based on the real exploits of the so-called Lonely Hearts Club killers in the post-war United States
Nicolás and Colar are a grotesque version of Bonnie and Clyde, who rob not banks but vulnerable rich women Nicolás is a middle-aged man of abundant charm with an unconvincing wig, who appeals to the snobbery of elderly widows by his ability to pose as a Spaniard, affecting the accent and mannerisms of the expatriate Coral is an overweight single mother who drives her children and takes off with Nicolás, pushing him from robbery to murder
Though money is the apparent motive, Coral is addicted to romance, as we see in the first shot of her bedroom, stuffed with cheap but gaudy clothes, Mills & Boon-type novels, and photographs of film stars The killings the pairs commit are dictated by Coral's passion for Nicolás He seduces women in order to steal them, and this incurs Coral's murderous jealousy
Arturo Ripstein's film is essentially a study of thwarted passion turning repugnant Coral is vicious, even to the extent of killing a young girl who has witnessed her mother's murder Yet her gesture of offering her own hair to make Nicolás a new wig is at once tender and ridiculous
Nicolás and Colar are a grotesque version of Bonnie and Clyde, who rob not banks but vulnerable rich women Nicolás is a middle-aged man of abundant charm with an unconvincing wig, who appeals to the snobbery of elderly widows by his ability to pose as a Spaniard, affecting the accent and mannerisms of the expatriate Coral is an overweight single mother who drives her children and takes off with Nicolás, pushing him from robbery to murder
Though money is the apparent motive, Coral is addicted to romance, as we see in the first shot of her bedroom, stuffed with cheap but gaudy clothes, Mills & Boon-type novels, and photographs of film stars The killings the pairs commit are dictated by Coral's passion for Nicolás He seduces women in order to steal them, and this incurs Coral's murderous jealousy
Arturo Ripstein's film is essentially a study of thwarted passion turning repugnant Coral is vicious, even to the extent of killing a young girl who has witnessed her mother's murder Yet her gesture of offering her own hair to make Nicolás a new wig is at once tender and ridiculous
Smooth-tongued Nicolas and over-sized Coral meet through a sexy advertisement in the personal columns. Coral who adores Charles Boyer clings to Nicolas as the next best thing. They form a partnership and decide on a plan - to seduce rich women and make off with their money and valuables. It looks all too easy.The plan works well until Coral believes he might be over-doing the seductions and falling for the ladies. It really seems we are in for a good comedy. Nicolas is having trouble with his hairpiece and Coral really does have a weight problem.I guess the comic situations do accent the drama which is to follow. The frivolous dialogue starts to become more serious, especially when one of the victims informs them she has become pregnant. Because many of the homes visited are isolated in desert areas of Mexico, it would seem easy to dispose of a human being should that person be involved in some kind of accident.With cold determination Nicolas and Coral become involved in a new plan - one of murder. At this point we grip our seats and anticipate the worst for the unwary victim. The atmosphere is tense, no help is at hand and the murderers carry out their horrible plan. The ending I think is rather abrupt (some scenes have been edited out, perhaps) but it makes the point that crime does not pay. I have seen many road movies, but this one, I must confess, is the bloodiest of them all.
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- WissenswertesThis story was first told in The Honeymoon Killers (1970).
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Nicolás Estrella: I don't need your pity. I need my hairpiece!
- Alternative VersionenA new Director's Cut premiered in September 2023 at the Venice Film Festival. It includes 24 minutes of previously unreleased footage. Most notably, the scene in which Coral prepares to perform an abortion is extended to show the procedure, and the scene in which she prepares to murder the a child plays out in full, with her shown putting the girl in the tub and drowning her.
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