Deep Crimson

Deep Crimson-Arturo Ripstein This is an absolute gem of a retelling of the famous TRUE "Lonely Heart's Club Killers". Originally made as the "Honeymoon Killers", this Mexican version is totally representative of the true story. An obese nurse connects up with a con artist, who is stealing from rich widows, using a newspaper lonely hearts club source. Soon, after the nurse goes nutzoid over this creep, she gives up her children, and joins him in ripping off and killing available divorcée's and widows. The original film is a favorite of mine, as it is extremely gruesome, but carries a black comedy edge the first 2/3 of the film, and then it gets extremely nasty. As in the original, the psycho couple must deal with a Mother and her Child, and it is depicted here pretty well, but not as gruesome as the original. Nevertheless, this version pulls no punches, and in the end, goes way way beyond the original. This was considered very very shocking stuff in the original "Honeymoon Killers", and the ending of this one is totally stunning. This Mexican version is almost as good, if not better than the original. The extremely disturbing story, which is true, is superbly well made in this version. If you see this version for the first time, you will want to see "Honeymoon Killers", and if you already know "Honeymoon Killers", then "Profundo Carmesí" is a rare treat. I can't recommend this movie any higher, with the exception of "The Honeymoon Killers". Take your pick, they are both gruesome, and disgusting as hell. The edge is, this actually happened.

If you haven't seen The Honeymoon Killers (1970), I feel it should be recommended to watch that before Deep Crimson. Its not necessary of course but one might appreciate both films a little more when the original is experienced first, generally speaking. I also think Deep Crimson is a tad better than the 1970 original, but they're pretty close and each has its pros over the other depending on your perspective. Without mentioning the plot details, I'll focus on style first. Honeymoon Killers was shot in black and white while giving off an almost amateur film/documentary vibe which gives it a gritty edge. It also seemed to mostly be shot in small interior spaces, giving a claustrophobic feel.

Crimson might have a more typical feel throughout the first three quarters, but its still beautifully shot, especially the fourth act which takes advantage of wide open spaces. My memory might have failed me but I think Deep Crimson did a better job with the psychological aspects of the characters. Both films are dark in subject but Crimson left me with a depressed feeling, like I shouldn't have seen what I just saw.

Viewed the film for the first time last night. I was familiar with the Raymond Fernandez and Martha Beck 'Lonely Hearts Club' murders for years. I had no idea it was turned into a film adaptation. I thought the film was done extremely well. It's disheartening to see two people who seem so insecure go to these lengths to feel they are loved by someone, seemingly anyone. Nicolas who seems to be in total control at the start of the movie, looses the ball.. and Coral, runs with it. He is a confidence trickster who has finally has met his match in Coral, she is just what he was so in need of, a woman who is willing to do anything it takes to be with him. This giving him a boost in his waning self confidence. Leaving her two young children at a doorstep of an orphanage, because he can't be bothered with them, was all she needed to prove her loyalty to him. They begin to portray themselves as brother and sister, in a scam across the countryside to take advantage of widows/lonely women on their own. This starts to go painfully wrong from the beginning. Coral agrees to not be jealous of Nicolas' affections/pursuits toward the women he is out to scam, after all, it's just part of the act. It seems a harder task for her than she assumed it would be. They manage to stay calm and in control all the way through this. The most bizarre thing about this film,is that it really did happen. As, I mentioned it was loosely based on the aforementioned murders. Although mainly a fictional work, some of the mechanics, were there. The strong need in some for submission from another. The longing for a loyal lover, romance and excitement. This remarkable blend of dark lust and true crime won't disappoint.

The plot has been commented by other viewers, so let's move on. I saw this movie when it came out in theaters and loved it, especially the development of the plot (based on the same true events portrayed in Leonard Kastle's cult classic "The Honeymoon Killers") and the way Ripstein expertly evolves from black humor to suspense to bloody tragedy. I also loved the bolero-like title (say it in Spanish -Profundo Carmesí- beauuutiful), the choice of colors (thick greens, reds, blacks and browns), the set decoration, the actors, the all-imposing Catholic symbols and Catholic guilt which are so present in Latin American cultures...

So I thought it was a film about SICK love and misleading appearances, how harmless-looking people can hide sick violent personalities that may ignite under certain circumstances, never to return to what they were before.

A few years later, I happened to see an interview with Ripstein about this film, which urged me to see it again. He said it was a film about the dangers of romantic passion, tout court -- in the sense that passionate love is just one step away from isolation from society's values and conventions - and I thought "yes, this makes sense!". "Profundo..." is (also) about the pathological potential of any passionate love: the anti-social, selfish, self-consuming and potentially destructive behavior a love affair can trigger, to the risk of excluding friends, family and professional life from the lovers' agenda, and when nothing really matters except each other, their plans and their being together against all odds or reasons. Coral's behavior, dumping her children, lying, stealing, killing, marching on regardless of everyone else's feelings or actual physical integrity is a depiction of a sick personality...or is just a step or two further than the average person "madly" in love??

"Profundo Carmesí" is great, but do I have to mention not to expect anything uplifting? My vote: a good 8 out of 10, just don't see it if you've been recently dumped by your lover/husband/wife; it might give you bad ideas!!

Smooth-tongued Nicolas and over-sized Coral meet through a sexy advertisement in the personal columns. Coral who adores Charles Boyer clings to Nicolas as the next best thing. They form a partnership and decide on a plan - to seduce rich women and make off with their money and valuables. It looks all too easy.The plan works well until Coral believes he might be over-doing the seductions and falling for the ladies. It really seems we are in for a good comedy. Nicolas is having trouble with his hairpiece and Coral really does have a weight problem.I guess the comic situations do accent the drama which is to follow. The frivolous dialogue starts to become more serious, especially when one of the victims informs them she has become pregnant. Because many of the homes visited are isolated in desert areas of Mexico, it would seem easy to dispose of a human being should that person be involved in some kind of accident.With cold determination Nicolas and Coral become involved in a new plan - one of murder. At this point we grip our seats and anticipate the worst for the unwary victim. The atmosphere is tense, no help is at hand and the murderers carry out their horrible plan. The ending I think is rather abrupt (some scenes have been edited out, perhaps) but it makes the point that crime does not pay. I have seen many road movies, but this one, I must confess, is the bloodiest of them all.