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Ich kämpfe niemals wieder

Originaltitel: I Will Fight No More Forever
  • Fernsehfilm
  • 1975
  • Not Rated
  • 1 Std. 45 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,2/10
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IHRE BEWERTUNG
Ned Romero in Ich kämpfe niemals wieder (1975)
ActionDramaGeschichteKriegWestern

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuIn a period when many thought that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian," Chief Joseph and the Nez Perce won the admiration of the American public.In a period when many thought that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian," Chief Joseph and the Nez Perce won the admiration of the American public.In a period when many thought that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian," Chief Joseph and the Nez Perce won the admiration of the American public.

  • Regie
    • Richard T. Heffron
  • Drehbuch
    • Jeb Rosebrook
    • Theodore Strauss
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • James Whitmore
    • Sam Elliott
    • Ned Romero
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    7,2/10
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    • Regie
      • Richard T. Heffron
    • Drehbuch
      • Jeb Rosebrook
      • Theodore Strauss
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • James Whitmore
      • Sam Elliott
      • Ned Romero
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    • Für 2 Primetime Emmys nominiert
      • 1 Gewinn & 2 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    James Whitmore
    James Whitmore
    • Gen. Oliver O. Howard
    Sam Elliott
    Sam Elliott
    • Capt. Wood
    Ned Romero
    Ned Romero
    • Chief Joseph
    Linda Redfearn
    Linda Redfearn
    • Toma
    Emilio Delgado
    Emilio Delgado
    • Ollokot
    John Kauffman
    • Wahlitits
    Nick Ramus
    Nick Ramus
    • Rainbow
    Frank Salsedo
    • White Bird
    Vincent St. Cyr
    Vincent St. Cyr
    • Chief Looking Glass
    • (as W. Vincent St. Cyr)
    Charles Ynfante
    • Yellow Wolf
    Conrad Hool
    Conrad Hool
    • Lieutenant
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    • Regie
      • Richard T. Heffron
    • Drehbuch
      • Jeb Rosebrook
      • Theodore Strauss
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    8mattkratz

    powerful western

    This was a good movie that can be used in history classes. It focuses in on the struggles between the Nez Perce tribe and the Cavelry, and Chief Joseph in particular. It is as historically accurate as it can be, and the actors' portrayals are astonishing. I loved the "conflict scenes" and the portrayal of Joseph as a great man. It was a terrific movie!

    *** out of ****
    7Wuchakk

    What do you do when following orders is unjust?

    "I Will Fight No More Forever" is an overlooked Western from 1975, possibly because it was made-for-TV. Despite this, it's actually better than a lot of theatrically released Westerns from the same period or, at least, just as good.

    THE PLOT: When gold is discovered on the ancestral lands of the Nez Perce (in the NE corner of Oregon and border of Idaho) their treaty is broken to allow settlers to move into their lands, which results in conflict. The US Army seeks to subjugate the tribe of 800 and relocate them to a reservation, but Chief Joseph – Native name: Hinmatóowyalahtq'it – resists, winning 18 engagements against the Army with only a little over a hundred warriors. These engagements include four major battles and four fiercely contested skirmishes. The Nez Perce War lasted four months and involved a 1200-mile chase. Joseph and his tribe ultimately sought refuge in Canada. Will they make it? See the movie.

    Being a TV movie from 1975 I was expecting to be let down; I was anticipating white actors playing Natives and a roll-your-eyes tone, but this isn't the case at all. The main Indian characters are played by Native Americans of various tribes; even Ned Romero, who plays Chief Joseph, is Chitimacha Native American (as well as French/Spanish). The ending of the film lists the Native actors and their tribal ancestry.

    As for the tone, although you can't expect "Dances With Wolves" quality in a TV Western from 1975, it's not that far off. Although the portrayal of the Indians is too "Hollywood-ized" in that they're perhaps overly noble and virtuous, it rings true nevertheless. There's a great scene where a few braves break into a saloon to enact revenge on the white trash who murdered a tribesman. The warriors are painted and the patrons are convincingly scared for their lives. The ending of the sequence makes a powerful statement.

    James Whitmore and Sam Elliott play the general and colonel of the Army respectively and you can witness their struggle with performing their duty and doing what's right. They respect Joseph and his warriors and realize that the tribe only wants to retain their freedom, and understandably so: it was promised to them via a treaty. The officers know what they're doing is unjust, but they're under orders.

    Composer Gerald Fried of Star Trek fame (e.g. "Amok Time") wrote the quality score and even reprises some obvious Trekian aspects. The film runs 105 minutes.

    BOTTOM LINE: "I Will Fight No More Forever" inspired me to research the historical facts, which the movie is pretty good with, even supplying a screen-map detailing Joseph's 1200-mile route every step of the way. Despite being well-done, the topic is dreary and the story isn't compelling enough to give a higher grade. Still, this is a very respectable film and a must-see if you like pro-Indian Westerns and want to see the awful truth.

    GRADE: B+
    8bkoganbing

    A Stand for Dignity and Pride

    When this film was made in 1975 it was almost 100 years since the Nez Perce Indian tribe made its final stand for dignity and pride. That was no longer left to them after they were ordered from their ancestral lands in Eastern Oregon to a reservation in Idaho. I Will Fight No More Forever was their Chief Joseph's immortal words as he was now concerned with simply survival of the Nez Perce tribe and culture.

    The man charged with delivering this ultimatum which he regarded as distasteful was General Oliver O. Howard for whom Howard University is named after. Howard is played by James Whitmore is a figure of both duty and compassion. But as a soldier duty comes first. His conflict is brought out in many conversations with Sam Elliott playing one of his officers who quite bluntly said he never signed on for duty like this.

    The film sticks pretty close to the facts as they unfolded in 1877. What the back story of the film is about is that the Nez Perce up to that point had not taken up arms against the whites, preferring to accommodate. When they could no longer do that however, Chief Joseph who had no military experience as such proved to be a resourceful commander, leading his tribe in a defensive retreat that lasted for months.

    Ned Romero plays a magnificent and proud Chief Joseph who in the end has to bow to reality. This is a fine film, highly recommended about a bitter and distasteful yet heroic incident from the Nez Perce point of view.
    7sponge3

    Lots Of Facts, Draws You In, But Shows It's Age

    Having just purchased a home in the general area of Big Hole, I found myself becoming interested with this piece of American history. I've seen the documentary at the Big Hole State Park, read some of the different publications and as of now, I've seen this movie.

    Obviously the "Hollywood" production falls flat compared to facts and figures. However, I did find that this movie makes it's best effort to depict actual events and timing. I also think that considering the times (1975) that this effort is well worth watching. I'm no 70's movie buff but the effects and dialogue more than met my expectations. I think at the very least, this movie would hopefully motivate others to research the specific plight of this group of native Americans.

    At minimum, the Nez Perce fought 10+ battles while being chased by about 10 U.S. divisions and all this with only around 100 warriors. They traveled 1300+ miles in about 108 days (over 12 miles per day) before chief Joseph's famous speech. This also marked the last of the big battles between the U.S. government and the Indian tribes.
    8craig_smith9

    A Good Look At History

    Yes, this is a movie. No, it is not an action flic. As they say at the beginning, this is a dramatized story. Yet, they have done a very good job of telling the story of Chief Joseph and his attempt to flee to Canada. He won every engagement against the army. Until he was 40 miles from Canada. Then he ran out of hope. Especially toward the end there are many very find points made about what led to this chasing of Chief Joseph. The movie worth watching just for that. Overall this is really an excellent documentary. A movie can only do so much. There are many excellent books written (I have read some of them) which go into far more detail. If you can't read them you won't go wrong watching this movie.

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      When Joseph is meeting with general Howard there is a 48 star flag in the background.
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      General Oliver O. Howard: Your civilian has started a war. A war, Captain!

    • Crazy Credits
      Recommended by National Education Association
    • Verbindungen
      Featured in The 28th Annual Primetime Emmy Awards (1976)

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 8. Juni 1985 (Westdeutschland)
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    • Sprache
      • Englisch
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      • David L. Wolper Productions
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