Archie Bunker's Place

Like you, I also enjoy watching the re-runs of All In The Family and Archie Bunker's Place. You are right about it not being a spin-off of the original show. If you will listen, it says at the end of Archie Bunker's Place it says it was played before a studio audience for Live Responses. They changed it from being taped before a studio audience to this at the request of Carroll O'Connor. As I recall, the reason was that it because the studio audiences' laughter made O'Connor very nervous. By the way, a spin off is when one or more characters has another show written around them. The two big spin-offs from All In The Family were The Jeffersons and Maude. Maude spun-off another show, Good Times.

"Archie Bunker's Place" is a TV series that probably never should have been made. It's a strange, neutered version of "All in the Family" with almost all of the edge and political message stripped away. What you have, essentially, is a nicer, more grandfatherly Archie supporting a show of mostly uninteresting characters...all set to an invasive and unwelcome laugh track.

Early in the series, they killed off Edith...as Jean Stapleton was apparently tired after nine seasons of the previous series--plus the turn the new show took probably didn't please her. They'd already taken Mike and Gloria and the usual neighbors off the series* and now they replaced them with folks like of Barney Hefner (whose 'I am a big loser since my wife, Blanche, left me' routine wore thin very quickly...and continued throughout most of the series), countless soulless and faceless employees (it was obvious that the producers were trying in vain to find one who would work into the show properly), a cute kid who was simply annoying most of the time and later a niece who is essentially an older version of the unnecessary little girl.

The show limped along for four seasons...which is inexplicable considering the high turnover of many of the characters and insipid scripts. But they weren't all bad. I recall one with Ann Meara struggling with alcoholism and it was exceptional...but the rare exception...and soon Meara was off the show as well!

Overall, this is a bland and mostly inoffensive series...a show you'd NEVER expect from something that used to be "All in the Family".

*With failing ratings, the producers brought back a divorced Gloria to move back in with Archie. Rarely have I seen a series that jumped the shark as many times as this one did!!

UPDATE: Since my review, I've seen quite a few episodes of "Archie Bunker's Place". While I STILL maintain that it's a pale imitation of its predecessor and a real disappointment, the shows are decent time-passers. Mediocre in every way but tolerable if nothing better is on TV.

THANK YOU TVLAND!

After the huge success of "All In The Family",the spinoff to this series was titled "Archie Bunker's Place",which ran on CBS-TV for four seasons(from 1979-1982). In this installment,the series picks up where one of the most influential series in the history of television left off which to some was not the last we will see of the controversial character Archie Bunker(played by Carroll O'Connor). First off,Archie becomes a widow after his beloved wife Edith passes away and also brings back the last time that fellow actors Jean Stapleton,Sally Struthers,and Rob Reiner would be together in which it was to be the show's final episode,but it wasn't(and this was from the first season of Archie Bunker's Place and the last go round of All In The Family is where this series begins). However,Archie and Edith by the way,adopts a little girl named Stephanie(played by Danielle Brisbois) and after the tragedy of Edith Bunker,Archie leaves his job at the plant,and opens up his own bar in the Queens section of New York(where the setting of the show is shown). Here we get to see a side of Archie Bunker that was never shown before,only this time around that here is a bigot who will see the error of his ways and then all of a sudden repent and Carroll O'Connor pulls this one off brilliantly. Still you may have the same controversial issues that reflect the day,but in all it was a wonderful series that needs to be seen again after two decades sitting on a studio shelf never to be heard from again.

However,TV Land has brought back these classic episodes and what they should have done was after the passing of actor Carroll O'Connor,they should have did a marathon of both "All In The Family",and this series. Let's hope they do.

Carroll O'Connor's character Archie Bunker was so popular that the network could not let him go so easily. Jean Stapleton, Rob Reiner, and Sally Struthers were eager to move away from their television personalities. But let's face it, they were on one of the most popular sitcoms ever and for them, it is both a blessing and curse as well. Archie Bunker's Place had a girl, Danielle Brisebois as the Jewish girl from Edith's side of the family. I remember watching Anne Meara, Liz Torres, and others who try to recreate the magic that was All in the Family but the show is still superior to anything on television today so I'm being a little more liberal because the character of ARchie Bunker became an American icon and part of the fabric of American culture that we would miss him too much. THis show allowed us to slowly move on. We love Archie Bunker and the actor who played him, Carroll O'Connor. For most of us, we'll always think of him as Archie.

With Archie Bunker's place, Carroll O'Connor had much more creative control than he did on All in the Family... too bad he didn't have Jean, Sally and Rob to back him up, with the exception of a 2 part episode. Rob Reiner was supposedly reluctant to return, but being newly divorced, he needed the money.

The post-Edith episodes are much more maudlin than the first season, and it's depressing to see a sadder Archie. We saw much less of 704 Hauser St., and when it was shown, it looked a lot darker and emptier.

About a year before it was cancelled, Sally Struthers, who really had nothing better lined up, was talked into doing a spin off featuring her Gloria character, now separated from Mike Stivic.

Before the show was cancelled, there was talk of possibly having Rob Reiner return occasionally as Mike, but Rob had become an established director and had no desire to reprise Meathead.

Gloria was now a veterinary assistant, and the trainer from Rocky was the veterinarian that let her sleep in an extra room in his house where his practice was.

Unfortunately, not enough people were interested in seeing a single Gloria, who had matured since the original series. I saw the first show, and thought the show was awkward. It was an attempt to show a single woman struggling to make it on her own (and that's been done before, what, at least a couple times...Mary Tyler Moore, That Girl)