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La commare secca

  • 1962
  • Not Rated
  • 1 Std. 28 Min.
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La commare secca (1962)
Wer ist dasDramaKriminalitätMystery

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuWhen a woman is killed in a park, the police bring in everyone suspected of being there when the incident occurred and question them. One of them is the killer.When a woman is killed in a park, the police bring in everyone suspected of being there when the incident occurred and question them. One of them is the killer.When a woman is killed in a park, the police bring in everyone suspected of being there when the incident occurred and question them. One of them is the killer.

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    • Bernardo Bertolucci
  • Drehbuch
    • Pier Paolo Pasolini
    • Bernardo Bertolucci
    • Sergio Citti
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Francesco Ruiu
    • Giancarlo De Rosa
    • Vincenzo Ciccora
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    • Regie
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
    • Drehbuch
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
      • Sergio Citti
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Francesco Ruiu
      • Giancarlo De Rosa
      • Vincenzo Ciccora
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    Francesco Ruiu
    • Canticchia
    Giancarlo De Rosa
    • Nino
    Vincenzo Ciccora
    • Mayor
    Alfredo Leggi
    Alfredo Leggi
    • Bostelli
    Gabriella Giorgelli
    Gabriella Giorgelli
    • Esperia
    Santina Lisio
    • Esperia's mother
    Carlotta Barilli
    • Serenella
    Ada Peragostini
    • Maria
    Clorinda Celani
    • Soraya
    Allen Midgette
    Allen Midgette
    • Teodoro, the soldier
    Renato Troiani
    • Natalino
    Wanda Rocci
    Wanda Rocci
    • Prostitute
    • (as Vanda Rocci)
    Marisa Solinas
    Marisa Solinas
    • Bruna
    Alvaro D'Ercole
    • Francolicchio
    Romano Labate
    • Pipito
    Emi Rocci
    • Domenica
    Lorenza Benedetti
    • Milly
    Erina Torelli
    • Mariella
    • Regie
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
    • Drehbuch
      • Pier Paolo Pasolini
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
      • Sergio Citti
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    8runamokprods

    If not quite a great film, an impressive and audacious debut

    Bertolucci, while a cinephile, had spent very little time on actual movie sets before making this film at age 21.

    It's a Rashomon like exploration of the murder of a prostitute. We see various men being questioned by police in a stylized way – we never see the questioner, only the witness, sitting in a pool of harsh light. We hear the man begin to tell what he did or saw on the fateful day, while cutting to images of his actual experience, often at odds with what we hear him telling the police. By the end of the film we get a picture of what happened that night for each of these men and the woman who was killed. Beautifully photographed,, with a strong sense of composition, it's a pretty strong little film.

    There are weak spots; the acting is variable at best, in a few cases cringe-inducingly over the top. Also, much of the dialogue was evidently post recorded, so even though the actors are Italians speaking Italian, their mouths are sometimes out of sync with their voices, and the dialogue often has a tinny artificial quality.

    But quibbles aside, the film has a haunting quality that marks the start of a great film- maker's career, and makes this well worth seeing.
    7lasttimeisaw

    The Grim Reaper

    Bertolucci's director debut has a quite distinctive Neo-Italian modus operandi, utilizing a multi- narrative structure of portraying different groups of people's idle life, who have been involved into a prostitute murder case. The raw-texture of the film is magnificently preserved and the primitive settings are bold enough to impose an intimate analysis upon various Italian people's mind-state at that particular time. At the age of 22, it was a great opportunity for Bertolucci to be granted the permission to work on his master Pasolini's script for his own career inception. Also it's a gutsy manoeuvre for Pasolini to trust his young disciple to fully excavate his talent, which is regretfully a rare case now in the cinema business.

    During the park scenes, the film has a distinctively poignant tableaux scenery, but elsewhere the nonchalant idleness of each segmental piece is astonishingly fragmentary and unable to relate it to the core murder case in any rate, the film sacrifices its more audience arresting detective fodder to pursue a random characterization of Bertolucci's own mark although may at odds with his later more prestigious work.

    The film's semblance of Akira Kurosawa's Rasho-Mon (1950) is just a bluff, apart from structure-wise design, the film seldom emits a certain commitment of story-telling, nevertheless it has its own charm once it suits to some specific cinema devotees' appetites, but with a horizontal parallel comparison with other 1960s elite peers, Bertolucci is still in his rookie mode and no one should demand too much for a 22-year-old novice to create a groundbreaking director debut, so after all, it is a thin-on-the-ground treasure and deserves a great thumb-up.
    rogierr

    An Italian Rashomon

    Not very solid, yet coherent work for a directorial debut. Better actors would probably have made a major difference in this Italian Rashomon. The story (Bertolucci and Pasolini) is about what's the truth and what is subjective perception. Who tells what story and why? More important: who hides what and why? Of course this film has nothing to do with the much more enthusiastic 'Rashomon' (Kurosawa, 1950) apart from the matter, but it may at least have been inspired by that masterpiece. If you like the subject you'll like the 'I saw the whole thing'-episode (1962!) from the series 'The Alfred Hitchcock Hour' too. Finally, this also slightly reminded me of 'Les Mistons' (Truffaut, 1957, short), probably because we are shown some street and environmental scenes of the place where a crime was committed.

    Besides Pasolini (Salo, Medea) for the story, I think cinematographer Giovanni Narzisi did the most interesting work on this film. A worthy Bertolucci film and definitely worth seeing on the big screen.

    8/10
    7Chris Knipp

    Bertolucci's slightly odd debut

    La commare secca is an interesting film that students of Sixties cinema, particularly Italian, must see. It's neither a forgettable oddity as some say nor a small masterpiece as others do. It is an artifact of Italian cinema, an early example of Bertolucci, and an offshoot of Pasolini. Pasolini provided the "soggetto", the story-theme, and Bertolucci and Pasolini's collaborator and Roman dialect coach Sergio Citti wrote the screenplay, which Bertolucci, terrified and inexperienced at only 21, got so shoot because Pasolini had gone on to make Mamma Roma, but the producers demanded a "Pasolnian" film. (This and much more you'll get from Bertolucci's 2003 interview for the Criterion edition of this film.) But Bertolucci sought to shoot in a very fluid, kinetic style, camera always in motion, to detach his style from Pasolnii's "frontal" imagery influenced by the Tuscan Primitives. Bertolucci had not seen Kurosawa's Rashomon, but may have known of it; anyway everybody calls this a "Rashomon film," including Bertolucci in the interview. The film does go repeatedly over the same period of time (introduced by the start of a heavy rainstorm) as lived by a series of people who were in the park where the crime took place, the murder of a prostitute. They are all suspects or witnesses who are being questioned by an unseen cop at the police station, and what we see are their experiences which often ironically contradict what they have just claimed earlier. They're nearly all liars and thieves and lowlifes of one authentic Roman kind or another.

    But here the similarity to Rashomon ends, and the weakness of Bertolucci's film begins. However interesting and in some cases haunting, creepy, and Pasolinian the episodes are, they are not different tellings of the crime story at all. They emerge as a series of shaggy dog stories, because they mostly take us nowhere in solving the crime or describing it. Hence, La commare secca is poorly constructed. The framework does not unify the episodes, nor do they draw us with increasing excitement as Rashomon does to a desire to understand what actually happened. And we don't see events retold differently. The events are mostly unrelated, though paths cross, as in many films, such as Kieslowski's A Short Film About Killing. Each episode is vivid and interesting in its own way. But they begin to seem so random it's easy to become impatient and bored. Things look up when we get to the soldier, a good-looking rustic with a goofy smile who begins to seem retarded, maybe dangerous. And they look up more with the two teenage boys with their "fiances," who become hysterical with guilt and fear, leading to tragedy. At this point the action seems haunting. But then the final sequences are obvious. We know who the killer is. We just don't know that this act too is connected to an attempted theft -- the connecting thread, perhaps, but not one that's made clear enough, being that everybody's getting in trouble in this park by trying to steal something.

    As has been pointed out, some of the non-actors are good but some violently overact, and some of the post-dubbing works but some is shrill and/or out of synch. The fluid camera-work, which Bertolucci claims as his idea, is fun to watch. The film never runs out of kinetic steam. Obviously this is polished work with excellent cinematography by Giovanni Narzisi, editing by Nino Baragli, and music by Piero Piccioni and Carlo Rustichelli contributing to the outward sheen. But the screenplay is the weak point with its lack of a unifying conception. Though Bertolucci uses the word "thriller" in the interview, we never get the feeling till the end that we're on the verge of solving the crime, nor are the string of petty crimes and personal clashes suspenseful or exciting enough to be worthy of the term. La commare secca, despite its fluency and lively action, comes to seem an unsuccessful example of the Italian omnibus films of the Sixties -- one that, unlike the ones with Mastroianni and Loren, or Pasolini's early-Seventies trilogy from Bocaccio, Chaucer, and the 1001 Nights, doesn't quite hold together as a unit. I wonder what Pasolini himself would have done with it.

    Anyway, two years later Bertolucci made the semi-autobiographical Before the Revolution, his real first film, emerging as an exciting young European intellectual filmmaker. Pauline Kael called his youth at this time "astonishing" and described this second film as "a sweepingly romantic movie about a young man's rebellion against bourgeois life and his disillusion with Communism." Then would come The Conformist, The Spider's Stratagem, Last Tango in Paris, and Bertolucci would be put on the map once and for all as an important filmmaker, who happily has now (2014) gotten back to work after a decade-long hiatus.
    5sushilpratapdangi

    La commare secca

    This movie occurs mostly the interrogation scenes, which makes viewers a bit interesting to watch throughout their real or unreal statements. The movie style have been influenced in lots of movies, before and present days. Again, its slow paced movie which needs to be watched patiently. But, if the debutant director, 21 yrs. did such impacts. Encouragement is must. Worth to watch it.

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      The original title refers to the 1833 Giuseppe Gioachino Belli's poem Er Tisico quoted at the end, which evoked the Death of Via Giulia Church in Roma, appearing on screen.
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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 6. März 1978 (Griechenland)
    • Herkunftsland
      • Italien
    • Sprache
      • Italienisch
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      • The Grim Reaper
    • Drehorte
      • Parco Paolino now Schuster, Ostiense, Roma, Italien(main night location of the action)
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      • 1 Std. 28 Min.(88 min)
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