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...und dennoch leben sie

Originaltitel: La ciociara
  • 1960
  • 18
  • 1 Std. 41 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,7/10
13.317
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Sophia Loren in ...und dennoch leben sie (1960)
DramaKrieg

Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.

  • Regie
    • Vittorio De Sica
  • Drehbuch
    • Alberto Moravia
    • Cesare Zavattini
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Sophia Loren
    • Jean-Paul Belmondo
    • Raf Vallone
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  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    7,7/10
    13.317
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Vittorio De Sica
    • Drehbuch
      • Alberto Moravia
      • Cesare Zavattini
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Sophia Loren
      • Jean-Paul Belmondo
      • Raf Vallone
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    • 1 Oscar gewonnen
      • 11 Gewinne & 3 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    Sophia Loren
    Sophia Loren
    • Cesira
    Jean-Paul Belmondo
    Jean-Paul Belmondo
    • Michele Di Libero
    • (as Jean Paul Belmondo)
    Raf Vallone
    Raf Vallone
    • Giovanni
    Eleonora Brown
    Eleonora Brown
    • Rosetta
    Carlo Ninchi
    Carlo Ninchi
    • Filippo Di Libero
    Andrea Checchi
    Andrea Checchi
    • Un fascista
    Pupella Maggio
    Pupella Maggio
    • Una contadina
    Emma Baron
    Emma Baron
    • Maria
    Bruna Cealti
    • Una sfollata
    Antonella Della Porta
    Antonella Della Porta
    • La madre impazzita
    Mario Frera
    • Peppuccio
    Franco Balducci
    • Il tedesco nel pagliaio
    Luciana Cortellesi
    Curt Lowens
    Curt Lowens
    • Ufficiale tedesco batteria contraerea
    Tony Calio
      Remo Galavotti
      Elsa Mancini
      Giuseppina Ruggeri
      • Regie
        • Vittorio De Sica
      • Drehbuch
        • Alberto Moravia
        • Cesare Zavattini
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      khann003

      Unforgettable performance

      Sophia loren, undoubtedly and unarguably has delivered the greatest performance in the history of movie. Her performance as the widowed mother of a teen age girl in this movie that depicted the horrors of the second great war was absolutely heart-felt and perfect. Rarely can one actor or actress possibly rise to such occasion to deliver a performance of such magnitude. It demands pure talent. Full credit to the directing great Mr. De sica for his creation. Should be watched in its original version to get the best of it.
      8tooter-ted

      A magnificent film about how human bonds redeem us from ourselves

      I gave this film 9/10 while understanding its weaknesses. First, as others note, the print is the worst I've ever encountered sometimes turning faces into gray pudding, but the problem was not so great to keep me from responding fully to the film's power, and I decided to evaluate the film rather than the print. I have more serious concerns about events at the film's climax which raise issues which are resolved too quickly. In fact these issues might be the subject of a whole new film, and if treated here they would require another hour of play time. The films hasty resolution of these issues makes important behaviors seem poorly motivated and unbelievable. However, the issues in question are not the central issues of the movie. When Cesira apologizes to her daughter (and at other points) I was left sobbing in spite of the film's failure to properly address the daughter's final trauma. This is not a about recovering from trauma. Rather, it is a film about human fallibility and self-deception or, as Michele puts it, "You can't escape, not even from yourself." Cesira faults others while never examining her own behavior. Like those around her, she acts only to preserve her own immediate interests. At the other extreme. Michele's idealism prevents him from realizing his own humanity. Only Rosetta demonstrates the purity to see beyond self-interest, and the instinct to truly tell right from wrong. Her downfall is the tragedy of the film. Yet through all of this the film shows us how, when pushed to extremes, these people are capable of forging deep human bonds. Such bonds have the power to redeem all as they finally redeem Rosetta. I can't conclude without adding my own appreciation for Sophia Loren's extraordinary performance.
      9jzappa

      Great Italian Cinema

      Sophia Loren, aside from being one of the most sumptuously sexy women I have ever seen, proves herself here to be a tremendous actress. She has a melodramatic Italian flair that impassions her lovably aggressive character, a widowed shopkeeper in Rome during the Allied bombing in WWII, who flees with her beloved daughter to her impoverish mountainous native region. Throughout the story, she proves to be a strong woman, seasoned by pain and not having lost the fire and fight in her.

      Like many European films of its time, Two Women is all about the characters and the current on which they flow through the film, a realistic capsule of a time and place. Vittorio De Sica, who made the beautifully small-scale film The Bicycle Thief, which is about a relationship between father and son, forms a companion piece with Two Women, which is about a relationship between mother and daughter. He addresses strikingly the unbearable love between a parent and their child.

      Truly one of the greatest Italian films, this is an absorbing, emotional, modest journey with wonderful music; coarse, down-to-earth cinematography from the wonderful old days of gritty film prints and old school hands-on editing; incredible acting not only from Loren but from the young actress playing her daughter, who drastically transforms; and also from Jean- Paul Belmondo, who convincingly plays completely against type; and a beautifully emotional final shot. For those who feel detached from older foreign films, especially neo-realist, I have yet to see an Italian neo-realist film any more alive than this one!
      7bkoganbing

      A Mark of Daring

      Sophia Loren became the first player to win an Acting Oscar for a foreign language film in Two Women or La Ciociara in her native Italy. She plays the title role here, the other woman being her daughter played in La Ciociara by Eleanora Brown.

      The story here is a relatively simple one, Sophia and Eleanora leave Rome due to the bombing of Rome just prior to the Allied invasion of Italy. The political situation is in one state of flux to put it mildly. In a matter of days, Benito Mussolini was overthrown and General Badoglio put in charge of the government. But the Nazis suspecting something was afoot sent in troops and met the Allies in a pitched 21 day battle at Salerno which like Waterloo was a close run thing.

      At one point Jean-Paul Belmondo asks a couple of stray British paratroopers who landed way up behind enemy lines why the Allies didn't land in Rome. In fact they almost did land an army there, but Eisenhower canceled the landing at the last moment and probably saved a lot of lives doing so.

      But this isn't about great battles, it's about Two Women just trying to survive the ravages of war in the best way they can. Sophia decides their best place is in her old village, south towards Naples. Before the film ends, she's given plenty of reason to rethink that decision.

      Sophia was the Best Actress in 1961 for this film and for reasons I don't understand it was not given any other Oscar nominations, including for Best Foreign Language Film and for Best Director for Vittorio DeSica.

      If La Ciociara has a fault it's that it's Sophia's show totally. The village characters and that of her one time lover Raf Vallone are left undeveloped. Only the daughter and young intellectual Belmondo who falls for the earthy Sophia seem to be on the verge of becoming three dimensional.

      The subject matter could never have been done in an American studio with the Code still firmly in place. I remember back in the day La Ciociara was shown at the art house circuit and many young juveniles considered it a mark of daring to get in and see Sophia Loren expose more than her American films had done up to that time.

      Sophia Loren deserved that Oscar, every bit of it. And you'll agree if you see La Ciociara.
      8LeRoyMarko

      Another great performance by Sophia Loren

      Very bad print (even on DVD), but very good movie. A war film that focuses more on the people who suffer, instead of telling the story of those fighting the battle. It's also a movie about love, relationship, bonding between a woman and her daughter. Sophia Loren's performance is stellar. Belmondo is also very good. Young Eleonora Brown's performance gets better during the film. The last 30 minutes of the movie are poignant. It's heartbreaking to listen to Cesira apologize to Rosetta. Watch it.

      Seen at home, in Toronto, on February 19th, 2006.

      81/100 (***)

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        Sophia Loren claims that Director Vittorio De Sica, so caught up in the story, regularly cried on the set when filming particularly emotional scenes.
      • Patzer
        Near the beginning, Cesira and Rosetta choose to walk rather than wait aboard their stranded train. However, they set off in the opposite direction to the train's destination.
      • Zitate

        [subtitled version]

        Cesira: Do you know what they have done those "heroes" that you command? Do you know what your great soldiers have done in a holy church under the eyes of the Madonna? Do you know?

        American Soldier: Peace, peace.

        Cesira: Yes, peace, beautiful peace! You ruined my little daughter forever! Now she's worse than dead. No, I'm not mad, I'm not mad! Look at her! And tell me if I am mad! Rotten crazy bastards!

      • Verbindungen
        Edited into Al Centro del cinema (2015)
      • Soundtracks
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        (uncredited)

        Written by Cesare A. Bixio

        Published by Bixio Censa

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      Details

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      • Erscheinungsdatum
        • 26. Oktober 1961 (Westdeutschland)
      • Herkunftsländer
        • Italien
        • Frankreich
      • Sprachen
        • Italienisch
        • Deutsch
        • Englisch
      • Auch bekannt als
        • Und dennoch leben sie
      • Drehorte
        • Chiesa San Francesco d'Assisi, Fondi, Lazio, Italien(interiors: rape scene in the church)
      • Produktionsfirmen
        • Compagnia Cinematografica Champion
        • Cocinor
        • Les Films Marceau
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      • Laufzeit
        • 1 Std. 41 Min.(101 min)
      • Farbe
        • Black and White
      • Sound-Mix
        • Mono
      • Seitenverhältnis
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