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...und dennoch leben sie

Originaltitel: La ciociara
  • 1960
  • 18
  • 1 Std. 41 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,7/10
13.282
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Sophia Loren in ...und dennoch leben sie (1960)
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Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.Im Italien des Zweiten Weltkriegs suchen eine Witwe und ihre einsame Tochter Abstand zu den Schrecken des Krieges.

  • Regie
    • Vittorio De Sica
  • Drehbuch
    • Alberto Moravia
    • Cesare Zavattini
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Sophia Loren
    • Jean-Paul Belmondo
    • Raf Vallone
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  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    7,7/10
    13.282
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    • Regie
      • Vittorio De Sica
    • Drehbuch
      • Alberto Moravia
      • Cesare Zavattini
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Sophia Loren
      • Jean-Paul Belmondo
      • Raf Vallone
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    • 1 Oscar gewonnen
      • 11 Gewinne & 3 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    Sophia Loren
    Sophia Loren
    • Cesira
    Jean-Paul Belmondo
    Jean-Paul Belmondo
    • Michele Di Libero
    • (as Jean Paul Belmondo)
    Raf Vallone
    Raf Vallone
    • Giovanni
    Eleonora Brown
    Eleonora Brown
    • Rosetta
    Carlo Ninchi
    Carlo Ninchi
    • Filippo Di Libero
    Andrea Checchi
    Andrea Checchi
    • Un fascista
    Pupella Maggio
    Pupella Maggio
    • Una contadina
    Emma Baron
    Emma Baron
    • Maria
    Bruna Cealti
    • Una sfollata
    Antonella Della Porta
    Antonella Della Porta
    • La madre impazzita
    Mario Frera
    • Peppuccio
    Franco Balducci
    • Il tedesco nel pagliaio
    Luciana Cortellesi
    Curt Lowens
    Curt Lowens
    • Ufficiale tedesco batteria contraerea
    Tony Calio
      Remo Galavotti
      Elsa Mancini
      Giuseppina Ruggeri
      • Regie
        • Vittorio De Sica
      • Drehbuch
        • Alberto Moravia
        • Cesare Zavattini
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      8LeRoyMarko

      Another great performance by Sophia Loren

      Very bad print (even on DVD), but very good movie. A war film that focuses more on the people who suffer, instead of telling the story of those fighting the battle. It's also a movie about love, relationship, bonding between a woman and her daughter. Sophia Loren's performance is stellar. Belmondo is also very good. Young Eleonora Brown's performance gets better during the film. The last 30 minutes of the movie are poignant. It's heartbreaking to listen to Cesira apologize to Rosetta. Watch it.

      Seen at home, in Toronto, on February 19th, 2006.

      81/100 (***)
      9jzappa

      Great Italian Cinema

      Sophia Loren, aside from being one of the most sumptuously sexy women I have ever seen, proves herself here to be a tremendous actress. She has a melodramatic Italian flair that impassions her lovably aggressive character, a widowed shopkeeper in Rome during the Allied bombing in WWII, who flees with her beloved daughter to her impoverish mountainous native region. Throughout the story, she proves to be a strong woman, seasoned by pain and not having lost the fire and fight in her.

      Like many European films of its time, Two Women is all about the characters and the current on which they flow through the film, a realistic capsule of a time and place. Vittorio De Sica, who made the beautifully small-scale film The Bicycle Thief, which is about a relationship between father and son, forms a companion piece with Two Women, which is about a relationship between mother and daughter. He addresses strikingly the unbearable love between a parent and their child.

      Truly one of the greatest Italian films, this is an absorbing, emotional, modest journey with wonderful music; coarse, down-to-earth cinematography from the wonderful old days of gritty film prints and old school hands-on editing; incredible acting not only from Loren but from the young actress playing her daughter, who drastically transforms; and also from Jean- Paul Belmondo, who convincingly plays completely against type; and a beautifully emotional final shot. For those who feel detached from older foreign films, especially neo-realist, I have yet to see an Italian neo-realist film any more alive than this one!
      7bkoganbing

      A Mark of Daring

      Sophia Loren became the first player to win an Acting Oscar for a foreign language film in Two Women or La Ciociara in her native Italy. She plays the title role here, the other woman being her daughter played in La Ciociara by Eleanora Brown.

      The story here is a relatively simple one, Sophia and Eleanora leave Rome due to the bombing of Rome just prior to the Allied invasion of Italy. The political situation is in one state of flux to put it mildly. In a matter of days, Benito Mussolini was overthrown and General Badoglio put in charge of the government. But the Nazis suspecting something was afoot sent in troops and met the Allies in a pitched 21 day battle at Salerno which like Waterloo was a close run thing.

      At one point Jean-Paul Belmondo asks a couple of stray British paratroopers who landed way up behind enemy lines why the Allies didn't land in Rome. In fact they almost did land an army there, but Eisenhower canceled the landing at the last moment and probably saved a lot of lives doing so.

      But this isn't about great battles, it's about Two Women just trying to survive the ravages of war in the best way they can. Sophia decides their best place is in her old village, south towards Naples. Before the film ends, she's given plenty of reason to rethink that decision.

      Sophia was the Best Actress in 1961 for this film and for reasons I don't understand it was not given any other Oscar nominations, including for Best Foreign Language Film and for Best Director for Vittorio DeSica.

      If La Ciociara has a fault it's that it's Sophia's show totally. The village characters and that of her one time lover Raf Vallone are left undeveloped. Only the daughter and young intellectual Belmondo who falls for the earthy Sophia seem to be on the verge of becoming three dimensional.

      The subject matter could never have been done in an American studio with the Code still firmly in place. I remember back in the day La Ciociara was shown at the art house circuit and many young juveniles considered it a mark of daring to get in and see Sophia Loren expose more than her American films had done up to that time.

      Sophia Loren deserved that Oscar, every bit of it. And you'll agree if you see La Ciociara.
      8SnoopyStyle

      Powerful acting from Sophie Loren

      It's WWII. Cesira (Sophia Loren) flees Rome away from the allied bombing for the sake of her 13 year old daughter Rosetta (Eleonora Brown). She's a widow of a loveless marriage and she's the object of everyman's desire. They go back to Cesira's home village. The idealistic anti-Fascist Michele Di Libero (Jean Paul Belmondo) falls for her. Mussolini is imprisoned and Michele is overjoyed. They even help a couple of English soldiers. The situation deteriorates as the war closes in and food becomes scarce. A group of Germans force Michele to lead them back to their lines. As the Americans approach, the villagers clear out. Cesira decides to go back to Rome on their own. They take shelter in a bombed out church where they are both raped by a large group of Arab soldiers.

      Sophie Loren is magnetic. She powers every scene. Eleonora Brown does a good job keeping up. The story meanders a little. There are a lot of unrelated things that pop up. All of a sudden, there's a Russian deserter. The randomness sometimes help the story. When the story moves to the German occupied town, it really starts to move. The tension gets ratcheted up higher and higher.
      8evanston_dad

      Coming of Age in WWII

      A unique film about the ravages of World War II, told specifically from the point of view of an Italian woman and her young daughter.

      The woman is Sophia Loren, and she won the first ever Oscar given for a foreign language performance in this film. She plays Cesira, a spitfire who is blithely indifferent to Italy's role in the war until the horrors of it hit home in deeply personal ways when she and her daughter leave bomb-addled Rome to trek across the Italian countryside to wait out the fighting. Most WWII films are told from the point of view of the men in combat or the women who wait at home patiently for them, letting their commitment to the cause be their solace. Few films are told from the point of view of women on the wrong side of the conflict (as we've been taught) who don't much care who wins or loses as long as their lives are left untouched. One would be justified in thinking that Loren's character is either selfish or naive, or both, but one would have to be inhuman not to feel compassion for what happens to her and her daughter.

      Loren was known as nothing but a sex kitten at the time of this film's release, and director Vittorio De Sica uses this to his advantage. Her Cesira is a woman who's used to being alluring to men and isn't above wielding her sexuality when it might work to her advantage. But Loren goes far beyond sex kitten in this film, to something nuanced and ultimately heartbreaking.

      Grade: A

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      Handlung

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        Sophia Loren claims that Director Vittorio De Sica, so caught up in the story, regularly cried on the set when filming particularly emotional scenes.
      • Patzer
        Near the beginning, Cesira and Rosetta choose to walk rather than wait aboard their stranded train. However, they set off in the opposite direction to the train's destination.
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        [subtitled version]

        Cesira: Do you know what they have done those "heroes" that you command? Do you know what your great soldiers have done in a holy church under the eyes of the Madonna? Do you know?

        American Soldier: Peace, peace.

        Cesira: Yes, peace, beautiful peace! You ruined my little daughter forever! Now she's worse than dead. No, I'm not mad, I'm not mad! Look at her! And tell me if I am mad! Rotten crazy bastards!

      • Verbindungen
        Edited into Al Centro del cinema (2015)
      • Soundtracks
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        Written by Cesare A. Bixio

        Published by Bixio Censa

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      Details

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      • Erscheinungsdatum
        • 26. Oktober 1961 (Westdeutschland)
      • Herkunftsländer
        • Italien
        • Frankreich
      • Sprachen
        • Italienisch
        • Deutsch
        • Englisch
      • Auch bekannt als
        • Und dennoch leben sie
      • Drehorte
        • Chiesa San Francesco d'Assisi, Fondi, Lazio, Italien(interiors: rape scene in the church)
      • Produktionsfirmen
        • Compagnia Cinematografica Champion
        • Cocinor
        • Les Films Marceau
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      • Laufzeit
        • 1 Std. 41 Min.(101 min)
      • Farbe
        • Black and White
      • Sound-Mix
        • Mono
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