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Bis dann, mein Sohn

Originaltitel: Di jiu tian chang
  • 2019
  • 6
  • 3 Std. 5 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
7,7/10
5896
IHRE BEWERTUNG
Bis dann, mein Sohn (2019)
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  • Regie
    • Xiaoshuai Wang
  • Drehbuch
    • Mei Ah
    • Xiaoshuai Wang
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Jingchun Wang
    • Mei Yong
    • Xi Qi
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    7,7/10
    5896
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Xiaoshuai Wang
    • Drehbuch
      • Mei Ah
      • Xiaoshuai Wang
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Jingchun Wang
      • Mei Yong
      • Xi Qi
    • 35Benutzerrezensionen
    • 68Kritische Rezensionen
    • 88Metascore
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
    • Auszeichnungen
      • 43 Gewinne & 60 Nominierungen insgesamt

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    Jingchun Wang
    Jingchun Wang
    • Yaojun Liu
    Mei Yong
    Mei Yong
    • Liyun Wang
    Xi Qi
    Xi Qi
    • Moli Shen
    Roy Wang
    Roy Wang
    • Xing Liu (15 Years)
    Jiang Du
    Jiang Du
    • Hao Shen
    Liya Ai
    • Haiyan Li
    Cheng Xu
    • Yingming Shen
    Jingjing Li
    Jingjing Li
    • Meiyu Gao
    Yanguozhang Zhao
    Yanguozhang Zhao
    • Xinjian Zhang
    • (as Yangouzhang Zhao)
    Zhenjiang Bao
    • Chairman
    Shuang Wu
    • Moli Shen (17 Years)
    Zizi Wang
    Zizi Wang
    • Jing Tong
    Xinyuan Zhang
    • Hao Shen (12 Years)
    Jiachen Wu
    • Xing Liu (12 Years)
    Yajun Wang
    • Yaojun Liu's Sister
    Ruilin Liu
    Ruilin Liu
    • Xing Liu (Adult)
    Kaishuo Bai
    • Hao Shen (4 Years)
    Yihan Cao
    • Hao Shen (Baby)
    • Regie
      • Xiaoshuai Wang
    • Drehbuch
      • Mei Ah
      • Xiaoshuai Wang
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    A dreamy observation of a changing nation

    In very many ways this film is almost a reboot of Zhang Yimou's film To Live, from 1994, which tells the many trials and tribulations of a family from the founding of the People's Republic in 1949 to the end of the Cultural Revolution in 1976. So Long My Son picks up that chronological baton, and tells a story about family bonds, the meaning of friendship and what constitutes our morals and ethics through the last 30/40 years of Chinese history, from a stilted, materially basic time of 1980 through to the hypermodernity of China in the 2010s.

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    I'm unsure if this was a problem specific to the release version I saw, though I have seen other reviews saying the plot was hard to follow, but I noticed that the English subtitles was often only translating about 1/5 of the dialogue in Mandarin. As a speaker of both, I followed the plot and characters quite easily, but can absolutely understand why many reviewers and comments have said they found the characters and plots hard to distinguish if the subtitling was a problem. However, with one eye on the subtitles, I think the fact they were missing a lot of the Mandarin dialogue would have created a really dreamy plotline that complements well the cinematographic style deployed - long panoramic shots that suddenly cut into a character's perspective; languid sequences that soak in the environment; and shots designed to make the audience feel voyeurs in a private situation.
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    Kirpianuscus

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    I saw it as a honest - precise portrait of contemporary China. And as realistic, warm image of the essence of parenthood. A profound iuseful film for so many motives than it is unfair to define one of them because, I suppose, each viewer discovers something precious in this film about relations, children, names, fury and love at intense levels and, more important, about truth to yourself.
    8JvH48

    Successful undertaking to show three decades of life within a Chinese rural environment, covering all ups and downs that can befall an average family

    Saw this at the Berlinale 2019, where it was part of the official Competition. Two prizes were awarded: Silver Bear for Best Actor (Wang Jingchun) and one Silver Bear for Best Actress (Yong Mei). Apart from the acting, it was very interesting to see China transform in thirty years time, albeit that we see only a rural part of China, far away from the big city centers, thus avoiding large scale business and touristic areas.

    Showing China while undergoing a drastic change, is one of the main themes of this movie, if not the main one. From a side line we get to see the transformation in progress, going from a communist country towards modern (semi?) capitalism. Factories, workplaces and houses the people work and live in, seem carefully designed to be true to the reality of the times at hand, thereby demonstrating an admirable attention for details.

    A perfect example was the factory closure. The gathering with the workers was very illustrative. It showed that such things went in communist times exactly as how it goes nowadays. The workers assembled can protest and find that the director must be sent away. The harsh reality was (of course) in communist times exactly as in our capitalist times. Jobloss overcomes the humble workers, as if it was a natural disaster. There is nothing they can do about it, regardless of all being called "comrades". Neither can help be found in communist textbooks and the principles of "worker's self management".

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    8dromasca

    a saga of two families in a changing China

    'So Long, My Son' made in 2019 by Xiaoshuai Wang and presented at the Berlin International Film Festival in February 2020 is proof that Chinese cinema is much more diverse and interesting than the mix of historical, martial arts or political propaganda movies that film lovers outside of China know superficially. It is a complex and ambitious film in itself, with a duration of 3 hours of projection, which is the first series of what is planned to become a trilogy that deals with the history of China and the impact of the great transformations that this huge country and its people has gone through in the last 40 years. On many respects the film is sincere and courageous in addressing historical processes and economic and social changes that have been paid for with a huge human price: the policies aimed at restricting families to at most one child per couple, and the transition from planned economy to capitalism market, with dramatic consequences in the lives of millions of Chinese workers who lost their dull but safe employment due to the closure or downsizing of state-owned enterprises, people forced to re-profile and migrate to ensure their livelihoods. The film's size and the ambitions of director Xiaoshuai Wang did not stop him from making a deeply human movie based on a well-written story anchored in China's recent history, with characters that viewers in China and anywhere else in the world can identify with.

    We are following the saga of two families from northern China during over three decades, from the ideological relaxation and economic liberalization of the 1980s to the capitalist abundance and socio-economic inequalities of the present. The Liu and Chen families live in the same crowded house, they all work in the same factory, they are neighbors and friends, the two boys of the families were born on the same day and grew up as brothers. The two families symbolically represent different destinies in these times of change. The Liu family remains at the level of simple workers and then small entrepreneurs, they hardly survive the economic shocks that will cause them to migrate to the south of developing China but also a personal tragedy when their only child drowns. The Shen family is more adaptable, earlier the woman reaches a political leadership position, later they succeed economically and make a fortune. Although families break up to reunite only in the end, their destinies remain tied to a secret that cannot be forgotten or erased, perhaps only eventually forgiven.

    The two actors who played the roles of the Liu couple impress with the depth, realism and sensitivity of performances. They also convinced the Berlin Festival jury, which awarded them both acting prizes, and I can understand the reasons. The tragedy of losing a child has been represented on screens before, but so far we have not seen such a deep interpretation of the consequences of the demographic policy of the only child at the level of the family cell. Those who see will hardly forget. Director Xiaoshuai Wang alternates the broad takes that describe the complex landscapes of a country in transformation and industrialization, with the intimate ones in the inhabited (but not private) spaces that become familiar to us in all details. Realism alternates with aesthetics and the results are remarkable. The props are chosen carefully, every detail counts. The makeup is perfect. If we pat attention we realize how the director visually expresses messages that he could not make explicit in words. For example, some of the factory-filmed scenes depicting the 1980s include an implicit critique of dullness of life, clothing uniformity and ideological regimentation. The narrative of the film is divided into two parts with different structures, which could belong to different movies. In the first two hours we reconstruct the story of the two families, the conflicts and their evolution in sequences of flashbacks that gradually compose the image and develop the characters. The last hour of the film describes the reunion that takes place in or near contemporaneity, and proposes a reconciliation and a resolution of conflicts. Personally, I liked the first part more, the solution in the end has something too idyllic and too forced which made it look not completely credible. I was left with the impression that Xiaoshuai Wang is a director of great strength and depth who when allowed to develop his artistic and historical vision can lead a movie to admirable results.

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 14. November 2019 (Deutschland)
    • Herkunftsland
      • China
    • Offizielle Standorte
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      • Avalon (Spain)
    • Sprachen
      • Mandarin
      • Chinesisch
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      • Inner Mongolia, China
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      • Dongchun Films
      • Hehe Pictures
      • Zhejiang Bona Film and TV Production
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