Hip-Hop Evolution

Fourth season now and no love for guys like Twista, Tech, Do Or Die, Or Bone thugs-n-harmony? Disappointing there.

This show is a fantastic look at Hip Hop with the same character flaw suffered by every bit of media on the subject - the prevailing thought that all roads lead back to New York.

Just call it what it is for a change, please.

The Evolution Of NEW YORK Hip Hop (and a smattering of other Hip-Hop hubs as long as they're not LA)

This series is now 8 episodes deep and yet only ONE episode gives attention to LA. Hell even the episode they did on the Bay Area kept insisting on how they owed their roots to New York. East coast hip hop culturalists and journalists will never miss an opportunity to make every other hip hop epicenter seem like a pale comparison of NY, just a bunch of people who appropriated the culture from the true artists in the five boroughs. Houston, LA, Seattle, St Lou, Atlanta, Miami, Charlotte...they're all just imitators. Some better than others but imitators nonetheless.

As an example, in episode 8, they spend the entire episode talking about the rise of Nas, Wu-Tang, and Biggie at a time when West Coast Hip Hop was CLEANING UP on the charts. They even admit that New York was struggling trying to reinvent themselves after their short-lived Afro-Centric movement burned bright and died quickly. But when they mention that the West Coast was on top, it's only to set the stage as to why Biggie became the savior of New York Hip Hop.

And THAT is why west coast hip hop fans dislike east coast hip hop so much. It's not the music. It's the attitude. New Yorkers are so busy telling everyone else how great they are that they can't spare the time to admit how great west coast rap was. It's as if they're feeling forced to defend how bad east coast rap got before west coast rap forced them to step up their game.

Truth?? This is a great documentary. But it's a great documentary about east coast hip hop. So much of what's a part of the fabric of hip hop is now tied up all over this country, from St. Louis and Atlanta to Miami, Chicago and Detroit to Houston, and yes New York to Los Angeles, that making a doc called the "Evolution" of hip hop without admitting that the current incarnation is a product of ALL points is just flat disingenuous. It smacks of a group still hanging their hat on some great thing they did in high school that still makes them cool at 50. Hey New York. Don't be like Melle Mel, old as hell and still claiming that you deserve respect for starting something that has long since outgrown you. Accept the praise graciously as the progenitors for a change and start talking up those who've taken it farther than you ever dreamed...no matter which borough or major city they come from.

But yeah, give it a watch. You'll learn more about a bunch of marginal New York rappers than you ever thought you would or even wanted to know.

Based on the first season, I love this series... It's just so entertaining! I'm sure some stuff is being fast forwarded and glossed over, but for what it is... I am thoroughly entertained and informed...

My only gripe is that when Shad roll up and meets one of the OGs, I wish there was some teeny, tiny way to infer a small passage of time, because he rolls up, shakes hands, says hi, then immediately goes, "Let's start with when you got together with so and so.."

It's minor, I know, and I know it's (probably) not the reality of the meetings/interviews, but it's playing like he says hi and hits them with the question - so cold.

Does that make sense?? Like, am I the only one who's taking it like that??

A must for hip hop heads. Truly appreciate this program and hope they continue with some more episodes. Would love to see a episode on the artists whose breaks were used and what they thought about their music being repurposed. Very entertaining I mowed through the episodes and hope they do more.

Some have mistaken the movie that was compiled and cut together from this series as the actual series. The movie played at some festivals and has a condensed view. I imagine it still is good, but hopefully some people who mixed those two up, will not confuse others. So if you are here for the longer run (it's almost 3 hours long, split into 4 episodes), you are in for a treat.

Though even that running time cannot cover everything, it does cover really interesting points in the history of how this became a cultural phenomenon. It's not just an evolution, but also a revolution at times. And it's really nice that the whole thing has a time-line and starts from the beginning, going towards the the newer age of hip hop. There are quite a few artists who get to say how it was for them and there is a lot of trivia shared. It's more broad in that way, which it has to be, because if covers not just one style. So while this may not be definitive and you may not find your favorite artist in this, it is one of the best looks inside and beyond Hip Hop

Edit: Just watched the second season. And while I didn't expect one to come (2 years after the initial season was made), it is as good as one would imagine. In-Depth and a lot of interviews and background information. You can feel the love through the screen

Edit 2: even more seasons and maybe no end in sight? I wouldn't mind, because the quality is there and the interviewer as someone in the game himself, knows what he talks and asks others about! Even if the Biggie and Pac thing has to be condensed it finally gets spoken about to here. But there's also the dirty south and so many more things, that as a rap fan you may have heard about or are at least interesting enough for those who did not live back then to experience now.