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On 1/23/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > I've got back 3 days ago and I've been moving away from my home, since
> > at the end of February I'm traveling to europe and I don't know when
>
> Is there any chance that you could end up in the Netherlands or even
> at the Fosdem in Brussels (24 and 25 Feb) ?
>
Actually I could change my reservations that were for the 28th Feb. I
need to be at Granada, Spain March the 1rst, so it sounds possible.

> It would be great to meet you in person, and you're very welcome in
> Groningen to stay for a few days at my place!
>

I had thought about going over your country to meet each other and
talk in person, once I was over there in Europe, but now that you talk
about 24th Feb I believe it could be possible, and it would be a
really great oportunity to see the presentation of LL, which is also
very exiting to be part of a little part of this project!

I have to take in count the costs of accomodation. I could travel by
train to save some bucks. What do you propose to be a cheep plan?
How much could you estimate it would cost to stay 4 days and travel by
train from Granada to Brussels and back?

This was such a great idea!, tomorrow I'll think better about it and
see if it's possible.

I'll go to sleep now.

> Wybo
>
> (I've replied this one back to the list)
>
> > --
> > Bruno
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-- 
Bruno

We are glad to announce the 28th of January - with a wink and a smile
;-) - as the World LogiLogi Day. If you like parties, if you ever
wondered what LogiLogi Manta is exactly, or if you would like to use 
it with many other people all over the world at the same time, you 
are welcome to join us on this day in:

* the Netherlands, Groningen, starts at 20:00 (but you're welcome at any
  time), at the Spaanse Aakstraat 49, just behind the Northern Station

* Britain, Bradford, location: the 12 in 1 club 
  (http://www.1in12.go-legend.net/)

* Uruguay, maybe at Bruno's place ?

And - of course - online on freenode.net in #logilogi and on the pre-
alpha of Manta itself (http://www.logilogi.org:3000/).

Wybo

> I've got back 3 days ago and I've been moving away from my home, since
> at the end of February I'm traveling to europe and I don't know when

Is there any chance that you could end up in the Netherlands or even
at the Fosdem in Brussels (24 and 25 Feb) ?

It would be great to meet you in person, and you're very welcome in 
Groningen to stay for a few days at my place!

Wybo

(I've replied this one back to the list)

> -- 
> Bruno

This one was meanth for Rick Richards..., I was a bit too hasty
sending it out...

Wybo

> How are things ?
> 
> Already had a look at the pre-alpha of Manta ?
> http://www.logilogi.org:3000/
> 
> Any ideas, or comments on the UI ?
> 
> (for the coming month we will be pressing towards the first release,
> but still I do consider comments on/suggestions about it very valuable).
> 
> Wybo

-- 

::Student:
- History, Informatiekunde (computer linguistics, IR, webtech) and Philosophy
- Member of the Center for Metahistory Groningen (http://www.rug.nl/let/cmg)

::Free Software and Open Source Developer:
- http://www.LogiLogi.org, innovative system for cumulative, shared commenting,
                           publication and idea sharing: Web as it should be...
- ComLinToo, a computational linguistics toolset written in Perl
- Lake (LogiLogi.org Make), a make-replacement using makefiles in pure C++

::Being:
- In the world, go figure (http://nl.logilogi.org/HomE/WyboWiersma)

How are things ?

Already had a look at the pre-alpha of Manta ?
http://www.logilogi.org:3000/

Any ideas, or comments on the UI ?

(for the coming month we will be pressing towards the first release,
but still I do consider comments on/suggestions about it very valuable).

Wybo

Bruno how was your holiday ?

I saw a movie that was made in Uruguay, yesterday (La Perrera)... It
was quite a nice movie, although not very happy in it's atmosphere...

Rails 1.2 is out, and Manta works well with it now! 

(after some restructuring ;)

I've also changed the voting to work with RJS now, which allows all
parts of the page displaying something related to ratings & voting-
power to be updated on each vote.

greetings,

Wybo

LogiLogi Manta is now using OpenID for authentication. This means that
we don't use the LoginEngine anymore, and that people will be able to
login much easier, as they don't need to create a new account if they
already have an OpenID at some other site.

I'm going to get myself a LogiLogi shirt to wear at the World LogiLogi
day (and at Fosdem), tomorrow ;)

Wybo

I am implementing OpenID for Manta, expect the commit tomorrow. This
allows us to get rid of the LoginEngine, which was not really upto any
Rails coding standards. Also I like the ideas behind OpenID, and it
fits in nicely with my long term vision for LogiLogi.

After that I will be working on allowing comments to Logi's (documents).

Wybo

The pre-alpha at http://www.logilogi.org:3000/ was offline for some
time due to a problem with Pstore sessions that came to light when the
google spiders came in, but it's fixed & back now by storing sessions
in the db now! A rake redo_dev_db is needed.

And now let us welcome Ibrahim Yetkin!

> Hi,
> 
> I would like to join to the project LogiLogi Manta as a Rails developer.
> I have some experienced in Rails. I have a 6 years professional
> programming experinces.
> I would like to joing this project to develop my skills in Rails.

You are welcome to our project, things that you could do are creating 
the controller-function, CSS and view for the printer-friendly versions
of documents, or you could choose to do the history-display. Of course
if there are other parts you'd rather work on, you're free to do so.

If you create/have a SourceForge account, I can give you commit-rights.

> Please contact me if you interested.

I've also CC'd the reply to your hotmail-account.

greetings,

Wybo Wiersma

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I submitted Manta to Ohloh, the new FOSS-stats site. Have a look:

http://ohloh.net/projects/3990

I've also done yet another commit. Note that a rake redo_dev_db is
needed to get it running, as I've changed a few small things in the 
db structure (removed the nr_of_history_items setting, and added
position_nrs to Taggings).

greetings,

Wybo

I just added the UI-part of the basic user-functions like signing up,
logging in and editing User-settings (note that PrefsProfiles and the 
like still have to be done) and basic Searching + a first listing of
results with Ferret (not very pretty, but working ;-).

Still much to do, but moving closer,

Wybo

Tasks item #1632187, was opened at 2007-01-10 11:14
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Submitted By: Wybo Wiersma (wybow)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Add history (diff of versions) screen.

Initial Comment:
This should not be too hard as The logi-versions already have the ranges relative to the logi's body_text as their position_ranges. So no actual diffing is needed, just substraction of the position_ranges.

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> Thanks for the good news!
> I'm in Valizas, Rocha, Uruguay right now, in a howse in the beach!
> I have to travel one hour to get to a PC, we are very far away from
> civilization, about a half hour walking! we are fully enjoying, and

Sounds sunny, relaxed, and warm, enjoy!

> > month. We might have at least a workable version by then (less than
> > 3 weeks!). I will also be organizing a LL-party here in Groningen
> > then. If you know some other hackers or interested people it would be
> > great to have some people online in Uruguay too!
>
> Ok, I've talked about LL to many people. I have a couple of friends
> interested on the project and the 28th meetup would be an exelent
> moment to show them the "so talked about" Manta Power! ;)
> A matematitian friend of mine showed some interest in the project (logically!!!)

Great! I'd love to see them online on the 28th, or to meet them in 
#logilogi on freenode...

> I also have a coulple of philosophy teacher friends that obviously
> showed interest, but it's been hard for me to explain Manta to
> non-technical people without a demo.

Indeed, even I find that, but with a bit of luck I'll be presenting it
too at a local philosophers conference here in april...

> > You'll at least be back before the World-LL-day.
>
> Yes! I'll be back on the 19th. I hope to be working by the 20th so the

Cool!

> The new features you added are bringing Manta to life. I like the way
> you are organizing the information, but it's too much at the moment I
> believe, we'll have to see how to hide some (we had already talked
> some ideas).

I've heard that from some others too, so we can look at it when you're
back, in the meantime I am already making things a bit simpler for
anonymous visitors...

Wybo

> Have to go now,
> 
> Later.
> 
> -- 
> Bruno

Thanks for the good news!
I'm in Valizas, Rocha, Uruguay right now, in a howse in the beach!
I have to travel one hour to get to a PC, we are very far away from
civilization, about a half hour walking! we are fully enjoying, and
when I get to the mail, I always get some great news from LL and it's
great! thanks man!

On 1/8/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> Good news!
>
> I will be giving a presentation about Manta at the Fosdem Conference
> in Brussels on the 26th of February! 15 minutes, starting at 11:00,
> in front of upto 300 people!

Wow!
>
> Also some people I know in London (the ESPians I visited a few weeks
> ago) will be organizing a LogiLogi-party/meetup on the 28th of this
> month. We might have at least a workable version by then (less than
> 3 weeks!). I will also be organizing a LL-party here in Groningen
> then. If you know some other hackers or interested people it would be
> great to have some people online in Uruguay too!
>
Ok, I've talked about LL to many people. I have a couple of friends
interested on the project and the 28th meetup would be an exelent
moment to show them the "so talked about" Manta Power! ;)
A matematitian friend of mine showed some interest in the project (logically!!!)

I also have a coulple of philosophy teacher friends that obviously
showed interest, but it's been hard for me to explain Manta to
non-technical people without a demo.

> > I've got only a couple of minutes, but I took a look at the
> > commitments and you are right, Manta is really starting to come alive!
>
> Cool that you like what you see. I do really miss your UI-wizzardry
> though!
>
> > I'll be back around the 20 of January.
>
> You'll at least be back before the World-LL-day.
>
Yes! I'll be back on the 19th. I hope to be working by the 20th so the
28th will be a
> I added a few things to the UI, like voting:
> http://www.logilogi.org:3000/
>
> Wybo
>
> > Congratz for your work!
> >
> > Later,
>

I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm just so exited about this project
that I have to repeat this.
Manta has such a interesting challenge that I can tell you that it's
the best work I ever had.

The new features you added are bringing Manta to life. I like the way
you are organizing the information, but it's too much at the moment I
believe, we'll have to see how to hide some (we had already talked
some ideas).

Have to go now,

Later.

-- 
Bruno

Good news!

I will be giving a presentation about Manta at the Fosdem Conference 
in Brussels on the 26th of February! 15 minutes, starting at 11:00, 
in front of upto 300 people!

Also some people I know in London (the ESPians I visited a few weeks
ago) will be organizing a LogiLogi-party/meetup on the 28th of this
month. We might have at least a workable version by then (less than
3 weeks!). I will also be organizing a LL-party here in Groningen 
then. If you know some other hackers or interested people it would be
great to have some people online in Uruguay too!

> I've got only a couple of minutes, but I took a look at the
> commitments and you are right, Manta is really starting to come alive!

Cool that you like what you see. I do really miss your UI-wizzardry 
though!

> I'll be back around the 20 of January.

You'll at least be back before the World-LL-day.

I added a few things to the UI, like voting:
http://www.logilogi.org:3000/

Wybo

> Congratz for your work!
> 
> Later,

Wybo,

I've got only a couple of minutes, but I took a look at the
commitments and you are right, Manta is really starting to come alive!

I'll be back around the 20 of January.

Congratz for your work!

Later,

On 1/5/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> I've just committed the newest changes to the UI. I've added
> the link-drop-down menu's! They're fully AJAXified, and work at
> least in Firefox.
>
> Besides this, I've also changed the style of the edit, history,
> etc.-links. Also already in the previous commit I removed the
> received/requested-url-bar from the bottom, to make the layout
> simpler to the eye.
>
> All in all Manta really starts to come alive now!
>
> To update it at home a redo_dev_db is required for the visitor-
> counter to work.
>
> Note that there were some issues with the Mongrel server at
> www.logilogi.org halting for some reason (happened after
> the previous commit).
>
> Let's home it stays up now: http://www.logilogi.org:3000/
>
> Let me know what you think of it so far...
>
> Wybo
>
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-- 
Bruno

I've just committed the newest changes to the UI. I've added
the link-drop-down menu's! They're fully AJAXified, and work at 
least in Firefox.

Besides this, I've also changed the style of the edit, history, 
etc.-links. Also already in the previous commit I removed the
received/requested-url-bar from the bottom, to make the layout
simpler to the eye.

All in all Manta really starts to come alive now!

To update it at home a redo_dev_db is required for the visitor-
counter to work.

Note that there were some issues with the Mongrel server at 
www.logilogi.org halting for some reason (happened after 
the previous commit).

Let's home it stays up now: http://www.logilogi.org:3000/

Let me know what you think of it so far...

Wybo

I've just committed the integration of the new GUI.

Have a look at: http://www.logilogi.org:3000/

Also I've made a start with the RedCloth rule for the link-drop-downs.

A Happy New Year!

(I'm off to the party now :)

Wybo

I've just committed the tests for the integrity-rules of Stances,
Modes, Elements, LinkParts, Taggings, Words, Senses and Concepts.

> I'm sorry but I dind't spent the time necessary on the GUI and I'm
> leaving in a couple of hours to Valizas, so I didn't finished my part.
> I'm really sorry about this. I also feel I didn't spent the time to
> the project I'd had liked to.
> 
> You can use this code http://overbits.com:3000/index_new_gui.html
> although it's not finished.

You've done quite something already, so don't worry, I'll pick it 
up, and integrate it sometime in the coming days.

RedCloth will have to wait.

> As I told you, after the following months I'd like to spend more time
> on LogiLogi.

Would be great.

> I have to go now, I'll check mail in a couple of days.

Have a good time in Valizas!

Wybo

Wybo,

I'm sorry but I dind't spent the time necessary on the GUI and I'm
leaving in a couple of hours to Valizas, so I didn't finished my part.
I'm really sorry about this. I also feel I didn't spent the time to
the project I'd had liked to.

You can use this code http://overbits.com:3000/index_new_gui.html
although it's not finished.

As I told you, after the following months I'd like to spend more time
on LogiLogi.

I have to go now, I'll check mail in a couple of days.

Happy holidays!

-- 
Bruno

Christmas was fun, and it was good to be with family.

I've just committed the first batch of tested integrity- & user-
permissions-code (for UserGroups, PeerGroups, Users, and Logis).
Tomorrow the rest will follow (Tags, Words & Senses).

I've also fixed the problem that some tests sometimes succeeded
when ran separately, but failed when ran with rake test_units.
This fix requires the testcase_setup_and_teardown_with_blocks-
plugin, which will be installed automatically as an external on 
updating your svn-copy.

In the process I've also fixed a small bug in Rails stable.

Also a rake redo_dev_db is required due to the removal of
PersonalUserGroup as a separate class (combined with UserGroup 
now).

Now let's go from the Ho, ho, ho of Santa to Let's do, do, do 
and make it happen of our rising Manta ;)

Wybo

Feliz Navidad!!!

On 12/24/06, Bruno Sarlo <bs...@gm...> wrote:
>
> LogiLogiList!
>
> I'm leaving right now for Christmas with the family.
>
> It's been great project so far, thanks Wybo!
>
> Greetings!
>
> On 12/24/06, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > I hoped to be able to give you all the commit of the back-end
> > integrity-code for Christmas, but there are still some bits
> > untested and unfinished... so this is still in the queue...
> >
> > Anyway I wish all of you a Merry Christmas!
> >
> > Bruno, Miguel, Jennifer, Rick and the others...
> >
> > greetings,
> > and happy holidays,
> >
> > Wybo
> >
> >
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LogiLogiList!

I'm leaving right now for Christmas with the family.

It's been great project so far, thanks Wybo!

Greetings!

On 12/24/06, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> I hoped to be able to give you all the commit of the back-end
> integrity-code for Christmas, but there are still some bits
> untested and unfinished... so this is still in the queue...
>
> Anyway I wish all of you a Merry Christmas!
>
> Bruno, Miguel, Jennifer, Rick and the others...
>
> greetings,
> and happy holidays,
>
> Wybo
>
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-- 
Bruno

I hoped to be able to give you all the commit of the back-end 
integrity-code for Christmas, but there are still some bits
untested and unfinished... so this is still in the queue...

Anyway I wish all of you a Merry Christmas! 

Bruno, Miguel, Jennifer, Rick and the others...

greetings,
and happy holidays,

Wybo