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Hi all, I'm back from the sailing days...

Allan, you sent this to the giplogi list (for logistics) instead 
of the log...@li.... So I reply to the correct
one...

> Hello,
> 
> I set up a basic version of tinyMCE at http://gipdev.science.ru.nl/giplogi/tinymcetest/test.html. A typical LogiLogi-text can be edited there (see links at top of page). It works fine in my Firefox 1.5.0.1 but it doesn't work in IE 6.0.2900. It might work/not work in other browsers too, I haven't tested yet. 

I don't see any buttons or anything link-related in the demo. I'm
using firefox 2.0.0.3. Here it looks like a plain TinyMCE-window 
with a text from the old version of LogiLogi.

> Change between [View] and [Edit] links to view/edit the text. Adding links isn't supported yet. 

'k.

greetings,

Wybo

> @maarten: You mentioned pasting from e.g. MS Word as a possible problem, after some experimentation I now consider this a problem too ;) 

I did not test that...

> - Allan

Wybo,

I've been bussy since my last mail to the list as I moved to live
Buenos Aires, at least for a month. Since yesterday we rented an
apartment with an internet connection so I'll be able to work on my
laptop, so I plan to go on with the UI sketches and work together with
the other guys.

I also still have to respond back your last mail to the list but I
want to complete some of your proposals before replying.

Later.

On 5/1/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> I will be away for a few days, sailing on the Frisian lakes with a
> group of friends... I'll be back on sunday evening.
>
> Lately I have been working on a simple site for the LogiLogi
> Foundation. It will contain basic information about the foundation and
> it's aims, and it 'll be quite presentable. I'm using the Radiant CMS
> as a basis for it.
>
> I will put it online some time after I return.
>
> Also I will be adding some power to the server of Manta in a week or
> two; extra memory, and a raid-disk, so the server will be less brittle
> too...
>
> I really do wonder what Andrew and Ilona think about Bruno's designs,
> or what design-ideas they have themselves ?
>
> greetings,
>
> Wybo Wiersma
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Bruno

I will be away for a few days, sailing on the Frisian lakes with a
group of friends... I'll be back on sunday evening.

Lately I have been working on a simple site for the LogiLogi
Foundation. It will contain basic information about the foundation and
it's aims, and it 'll be quite presentable. I'm using the Radiant CMS 
as a basis for it.

I will put it online some time after I return.

Also I will be adding some power to the server of Manta in a week or
two; extra memory, and a raid-disk, so the server will be less brittle
too...

I really do wonder what Andrew and Ilona think about Bruno's designs,
or what design-ideas they have themselves ?

greetings,

Wybo Wiersma

A rake redo_dev_db is needed, and see below for other changes that
need attention...

~ Sub-dirs, domain-levels & language-subdomains fixed ~

In response to koetjeboe's (from the RU-team) question about the
main_url, and his reference to: http://gipdev.science.ru.nl/giplogi/
I decided to fix this issue, so Manta will now work on domains of an
arbitrary level (like s.o.m.e.domain.org) at liking without language-
sub-domains, and inside sub-dirs (like /giplogi/).

For this a new setting was added to the configuration, which now
resides in config/config.rb named use_language_subdomains. Set this to
false if you don't have them on your test-server and if you don't want
to fix this by adding them to your /etc/hosts file.

For running inside a sub-dir you should use Mongrel or Apache. With
mongrel you just can do: mongrel_rails start -prefix /mydir
to run it inside that sub-dir.

~ Changes ~

Besides the redo_dev_db the configuration is now in config/config.rb.
But this file is in the repository as config/config.rb.tmpl because
different config-settings are now becoming more usual.

So you will need to rename this file to config/config.rb after
updating your copy of Manta.

Please report all bugs.

greetings,

Wybo

PS: The answer to the question from IRC where the main_url is created: 
In config/routes.rb there is map.main, from this rails generates the
main_url. In this process ActionController::UrlRewriter's rewrite-method 
is called, which is overidden in lib/extensions/action_controller.rb
to add language subdomains (if these are enabled as of my new commit).

> Hi Andrew,
> 
> I'm writting to the list so we start chatting all together about the
> UI. I'm also attaching what I've done so far, so we can also discuss
> about it and so to enrich each part.

Quite a good idea...

> I didn't wanted to share it before having the time to discuss about it
> and have it most finished, but I also now realize that it will be good
> if I have your opinions while working on it.

It's like the open source mantra of release early and release often...

> I'm trying to solve many flaws from the UI as I can see it. There is a
> need of simplifying thinks for non expert users while still being a
> useful tool. The sketches I show are the most complex of the layouts,
> there should be a more simple layout which will show less technic
> features.
> 
> Anyway, here are some of the sketches I've done.
> 
> This was the first approach I did:
> http://overbits.com/logilogi/images/boceto_ui_pre-alpha.gif
> 
> And this is the last sketch I've made:
> http://overbits.com/logilogi/images/boceto_ui_pre-alpha-5.gif

I am quite happy with the style of your sketches so far, as also already 
discussed on irc.

I like your last sketch most of all, and keeping in mind that it is
still just a sketch a few minor remarks:
- I really like the splitting up of the word LogiLogi across multiple
  lines. It makes the LL logo even more meaningfull. Maybe though it
  would be beautifull to complete this by adding .org/ in a simmilar
  oval just before the Information-bar.
- I like the idea of being able to add tags by typing to the Requested
  url. But maybe we should call it requested tags, and leave the
  selection of languages, versions, etc. to the information-bar.
- About the information-bar and the side-bars; the votes left, and 
  voting-power maybe should be in a side-bar. For the side-bars I 
  would propose:

User
  Preference profile (Default\/)
    Interface elements (All\/)
    Preferred language (English\/)
Context
  User group (Public\/)
  Peer group (Politics\/)
    Votes left (22)
    With power (1.0)

  Where the indentation means that they are below, or determined
  by the item above them (could/should instead of by indentation be
  expressed by an oval line around them or something). Also the ()'s 
  are the ovals, and the \/ is the drop-down img you already use.
  As a side-note: the level of preferred interface elements will most 
  likely be stored in the prefs-profile.
- The ID # could be named Alternative #, to make clear that the user
  can pick differently here...
- For the Edit links-tab; note that Manta will get a WYSIWYG-editor
  which will embedd link-only editing, so that will no longer need
  it's own tab. Other tabs are History and Printer Friendly

To conclude I really like the style and your solutions in terms of
reducing the complexity of the interface. I do wonder whether all
these things can be accomplished with normal CSS ? (like the oval
text-field in the requested-bar ?).

greetings,

Wybo

PS: What do you two think about it Andrew and Ilona ?

> It is great to be working with you all in the UI of LL. I have to go
> now, I might not be able to respond during the weekend but will later.
> 
> Greetings!

Hi Andrew,

I'm writting to the list so we start chatting all together about the
UI. I'm also attaching what I've done so far, so we can also discuss
about it and so to enrich each part.

I didn't wanted to share it before having the time to discuss about it
and have it most finished, but I also now realize that it will be good
if I have your opinions while working on it.

I'm trying to solve many flaws from the UI as I can see it. There is a
need of simplifying thinks for non expert users while still being a
useful tool. The sketches I show are the most complex of the layouts,
there should be a more simple layout which will show less technic
features.

Anyway, here are some of the sketches I've done.

This was the first approach I did:
http://overbits.com/logilogi/images/boceto_ui_pre-alpha.gif

And this is the last sketch I've made:
http://overbits.com/logilogi/images/boceto_ui_pre-alpha-5.gif

It is great to be working with you all in the UI of LL. I have to go
now, I might not be able to respond during the weekend but will later.

Greetings!

On 4/25/07, Andrew Wolters <a.w...@st...> wrote:
> Hi Bruno,
>
> as we already mentioned earlier on the logilogi dev list, Ilona and I
> are working on an improvement of the interface. If I recall
> correctly, you have made some sketches aswell. We were wondering if
> you could email those sketches, or elaborate more about your ideas?
>
> greetz
> - Andrew
>
>
>


-- 
Bruno

I've been thinking about how we should refer to positions and ranges in 
Logi's.

This is relevant for a manta plugin that allows one to see place-names 
mentioned in a logi on a map that is shown below. This module is my 
final assignment for a course in which we have to work with Geographical 
information.

Currently position-ranges refer to the characters they span in a way
that is intuitive for humans, but not standard in computer-science,
namely to the characters (like in Ruby ranges including the last
position: 1..1), and not beyond them (like in C strings, and in Ruby 
ranges excluding the last position 1...2).

The point is that pointing to positions between characters is easier
with the C-ranges than with the ones we currently use. And we want to
be able to refer to positions between characters in order to be able
to add things just after (or before) words, like a little globe behind 
a place-name one can click on to center the map around it. Pointing to 
the whitespace just before or after a word is not an option, as after
the diffing the same whitespace is not guaranteed to stick with the 
same word in relative space ('a duck', diff with 'a big duck', and the
whitespace after 'big' is gone (because the substring 'duck' was longer
than 'a')).

With the C-style notation we can refer to positions just before or
after a word by giving zero-ranges, like 1...1.

In the example: 'a big duck' 2...2, and 5...5 could refer to the
positions just before and just after 'big'. Of course for this to work
we would have to make sure that the diff always keeps the same white-
space at the end of each word.

What do you people think of this, and especially Charl, as you will be
the one creating C++ implementations of the diff (and thus also of the
position-range classes).

greetings,

Wybo

The server was down last night due to some runaway processes.

Should be fixed again now.

Wybo

~ Test added to manta_geo_user ~

I added a test to the manta_geo_user plugin today. This more to test
plugin-testing than for the testing of the manta_geo_user-plugin (as
the test is quite simple).

~ Testing and making manta-plugins ~

I also added a rake-task to the manta_modulizer plugin which allows
the testing of manta_* plugins, like the manta_geo_user (which was
renamed from geo_user to manta_geo_user for this purpose). Now you can
test all manta-plugins against the full manta-app by running:

rake test:manta_plugins

I added this as a task besides test:plugins because many of the other
plugin-tests currently break for various non-harmfull reasons.

If you want to make a manta plugin you can use manta_geo_user as an
example as it is really simple and small. Running script/generate
plugin will not do the job, as some things have to be added/changed
to make plugins work with manta_modulizer (and plugins_plus)

Locations important changes (inside vendor/plugin/manta_geo_user) are:

app (the application-tree just like in Rails)
db/migrate (plain Rails-migrations, note that it's best practice not
  to add anything to existing tables from manta plugins)
lib/geo_user.rb (requirement of manta_modulizer is set here)
Rakefile (line 11 was changed to allow rails-like dirs)
test/unit/user_test.rb (note the inclusion of the main test_helper,
  and AllFixtures as the fixtures)

~ Maintainance of (RU's/Nijmegen's) gip-branche ~

I think it would be good if the current trunk were merged into the
gip-branch from time to time, especially the stuff regarding plugins
is needed for adding pdf-export, etc. as a plugin.

So it would be good if anyone of the RU-team takes up the task of 
maintaining their branch...

Wybo

It worked all fine.

On 4/19/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > I accessed in to the site with no logilogi or myopenid cookies.
> >
> > The error is the same as the first times. I enter the url, went to
> > myopenid.com website, entered the correct information and logued in,
> > when redirected to LL the error arised. To get to see LL I have to
> > either remove the LL or myopenid cookies. If I go to myopenid.com I'm
> > correctly logged in.
>
> Could you login after I lately posted to the list that I had fixed it
> ? As it was back at the previous setting again, that is: no
> active_peer_group_membership.
>
> When I checked yesterday I was accidentally looking into the development-
> db instead of the production-db (which I copied over some time ago for
> testing). It could be that I changed the setting in the wrong db too last
> time.
>
> So it could/should all work again now.
>
> Just in case I checked all users for an active_peer_group_membership,
> but they're all ok.
>
> Wybo
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Bruno

> I accessed in to the site with no logilogi or myopenid cookies.
> 
> The error is the same as the first times. I enter the url, went to
> myopenid.com website, entered the correct information and logued in,
> when redirected to LL the error arised. To get to see LL I have to
> either remove the LL or myopenid cookies. If I go to myopenid.com I'm
> correctly logged in.

Could you login after I lately posted to the list that I had fixed it
? As it was back at the previous setting again, that is: no 
active_peer_group_membership.

When I checked yesterday I was accidentally looking into the development-
db instead of the production-db (which I copied over some time ago for
testing). It could be that I changed the setting in the wrong db too last 
time.

So it could/should all work again now.

Just in case I checked all users for an active_peer_group_membership, 
but they're all ok.

Wybo

I accessed in to the site with no logilogi or myopenid cookies.

The error is the same as the first times. I enter the url, went to
myopenid.com website, entered the correct information and logued in,
when redirected to LL the error arised. To get to see LL I have to
either remove the LL or myopenid cookies. If I go to myopenid.com I'm
correctly logged in.

Here is the error:

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////

 NoMethodError in Logi#show

Showing app/views/logi/_rating_menu.rhtml where line #9 raised:

You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
The error occurred while evaluating nil.power_steps

Extracted source (around line #9):

6:   <% else %>
7:     Peer group: <%= select_tag 'peer_group',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.peer_groups, "id",
"to_s",
8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,
"to_f", "to_f",
10:         User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_per_vote),
:class => 'float' %>
11:   <% end %>
12:   Rating: <%= select_tag 'score',
options_from_collection_for_select(Rating::SCORES_FOR_DROPDOWN,
"first", "last", 2.0),

Trace of template inclusion: /app/views/logi/show.rhtml

RAILS_ROOT: /var/www/logilogi-demo/config/..



//////////////////////////////////////////////////////



On 4/19/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > I just entered my login URL, nothing else this time. It didn't even
> > took me to the myopenid.com site.
>
> And you had the same errror, not a different one ? (As I got a
> different one yesterday at first, because the openid-server was
> unresponsive, and timed out, so I wasn't taken there either...)
>
> Could you try to erase all cookies, and then login again ?
>
> Wybo
>
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Bruno

> I just entered my login URL, nothing else this time. It didn't even
> took me to the myopenid.com site.

And you had the same errror, not a different one ? (As I got a
different one yesterday at first, because the openid-server was
unresponsive, and timed out, so I wasn't taken there either...)

Could you try to erase all cookies, and then login again ?

Wybo

I just entered my login URL, nothing else this time. It didn't even
took me to the myopenid.com site.

On 4/18/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > Wybo,
> >
> > just to report it, couldn't login. The site is down now so you could
> > see the error over there, but here it is some of it:
> >
> >  NoMethodError in Logi#show
> >
> > Showing app/views/logi/_rating_menu.rhtml where line #9 raised:
> >
> > You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
> > The error occurred while evaluating nil.power_steps
>
> Could you tell me what you did before it occured ? As strange enough
> this the same error like last time, but now your user-account does
> have an active_peer_group_membership, so it shouldn't be nil.
>
> Also I can login normally, and I don't see yet how I can replicate it.
>
> This seems to be a serious, non-shallow bug...
>
> Wybo
>
> > Extracted source (around line #9):
> >
> > 6:   <% else %>
> > 7:     Peer group: <%= select_tag 'peer_group',
> > options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.peer_groups, "id",
> > "to_s",
> > 8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
> > 9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
> > options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,
> > "to_f", "to_f",
> > 10:         User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_per_vote),
> > :class => 'float' %>
> > 11:   <% end %>
> > 12:   Rating: <%= select_tag 'score',
> > options_from_collection_for_select(Rating::SCORES_FOR_DROPDOWN,
> > "first", "last", 2.0),
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruno
>
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-- 
Bruno

> Wybo,
> 
> just to report it, couldn't login. The site is down now so you could
> see the error over there, but here it is some of it:
> 
>  NoMethodError in Logi#show
> 
> Showing app/views/logi/_rating_menu.rhtml where line #9 raised:
> 
> You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
> The error occurred while evaluating nil.power_steps

Could you tell me what you did before it occured ? As strange enough
this the same error like last time, but now your user-account does 
have an active_peer_group_membership, so it shouldn't be nil.

Also I can login normally, and I don't see yet how I can replicate it.

This seems to be a serious, non-shallow bug...

Wybo

> Extracted source (around line #9):
> 
> 6:   <% else %>
> 7:     Peer group: <%= select_tag 'peer_group',
> options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.peer_groups, "id",
> "to_s",
> 8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
> 9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
> options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,
> "to_f", "to_f",
> 10:         User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_per_vote),
> :class => 'float' %>
> 11:   <% end %>
> 12:   Rating: <%= select_tag 'score',
> options_from_collection_for_select(Rating::SCORES_FOR_DROPDOWN,
> "first", "last", 2.0),
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bruno

Wybo,

just to report it, couldn't login. The site is down now so you could
see the error over there, but here it is some of it:

 NoMethodError in Logi#show

Showing app/views/logi/_rating_menu.rhtml where line #9 raised:

You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
The error occurred while evaluating nil.power_steps

Extracted source (around line #9):

6:   <% else %>
7:     Peer group: <%= select_tag 'peer_group',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.peer_groups, "id",
"to_s",
8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,
"to_f", "to_f",
10:         User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_per_vote),
:class => 'float' %>
11:   <% end %>
12:   Rating: <%= select_tag 'score',
options_from_collection_for_select(Rating::SCORES_FOR_DROPDOWN,
"first", "last", 2.0),



-- 
Bruno

I spent the last two days writing a short essay about LogiLogi Manta 
for a philosophy-course I follow. It is in Dutch, so it won't be of
any use for you Bruno, but it might be of some interest for the RU-
team.

It can be downloaded from here:
http://www.logilogi.org/pub/LogiLogiPlatonismAsAWorkingProduct_WyboWiersma.pdf

I will continue working on the plugins shortly.

Wybo Wiersma

Below in Dutch about Allan making a mockup of the GUI-editor. The link
brings one to the current situation (for the body-div), and there's a 
link at the top to the gui.

> Hallo,
> 
> Ik heb een simpele mock-up gemaakt voor de WYSIWYG editor. De oude
> situatie staat er in viewing-mode en de nieuwe situatie in
> GUI-edit-mode. Het lijkt me het beste om deze twee situaties in het
> ontwerpdocument op te nemen. Hieronder een link naar de oude
> situatie, door te klikken kom je bij de nieuwe:
> 
> http://gipdev.science.ru.nl/giplogi/mockup-wysiwyg/indexold.html

It looks fine - also the adding together of the edit-modi.

A problem with it is that there are really many text-options at the 
top of the editor so (surely for the simple UI) many should be left
out..., but as this example looks like TinyMCE, that should be 
possible, as it is with that editor.

Wybo

> - Allan

PS: I sent it to the sourceforge-list as things beyond logistics like
the planning of meetings etc. should go there, not to the gip list...

A small note...:

> Also, I plan to derive a mathematical specification of the notion of  
> concepts (etc) in LogiLogi, in order to get a better understanding of  
> the formal properties. My hypotheses is that the distinction between  
> primary and secondary tags is superfluous for the underlying model.  
> But as I said, this is something I need to investigate.

If you imagine the primary and secondary versions of tags, as being 
two sets, then it immediately becomes clear that the distinction is 
not superfluous.

(x in 'b/a' is added to b2, a2, and a1, y in 'a/c' to a2, c2, and c1, 
if you request 'a', all in a1 is returned, so only x)

Sets are un-ordered, and by making a distinction between primary and
secondary tags, we can have one layer in a simple way (the initial
plan was much more complex - roughly creating a new concept for each 
new combination of words in an url (& it also involved suffix-trees)
- but for pragmatic and esthetic reasons I dropped that and went for 
taggings of two types).

Wybo

Hey everyone,

My name's Ilona, and I'm a 3rd year student of information science. My main interest is in human-machine interaction (mostly the user part), and currently I'm working on a bachelor's thesis aiming to optimize computer interface usability for elderly people. Besides that, I also like working on requirements engineering projects. 
In my free time, I like playing the piano, dancing and doing fitness training.

>From now on, I'll mostly be working on the user interface for LogiLogi, together with Andrew. 
We've started identifying elements which need to be improved and done some rough sketching. We'll get together soon and mail them around.

Take care!
Ilona

On 12 Apr 2007, at 09:53, Charl wrote:

> Hello everyone (and specifically Bruno),
>
> Wybo has requested that everyone from the development team at the
> Dutch university introduce oneself on the mailing list.
>

Hi, I'm Andrew, also a student of computing science. My friends  
describe me as a social, geeky all-rounder. I consider C as my second  
mother tongue. My working experience includes web development in Java  
and .NET, and in my spare time I play around with python. Although I  
prefer foundations of computing science (lots of math and formal  
methods etc), I consider userfriendliness an important part of  
building software.

Besides being a hacker, I have a profound interest in martial arts: I  
practice aikido. And I play the piano.

For LogiLogi I'll be working largely on the usability of the  
platform, together with Ilona. I might also be hacking around in  
javascript, depending on what we need to get done. Ilona and I will  
present some sketches and ideas on this list shortly.

Also, I plan to derive a mathematical specification of the notion of  
concepts (etc) in LogiLogi, in order to get a better understanding of  
the formal properties. My hypotheses is that the distinction between  
primary and secondary tags is superfluous for the underlying model.  
But as I said, this is something I need to investigate.

greetz
- Andrew

> > Could you please try logging in again and then mail the error message
> > if the problem still persists ?
>
> Ok, I replicated the error.

The report was really helpful!

I fixed it, the problem was on line 9

> 8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
> 9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
> options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,

The active_peer_group_membership was empty for you, because your
active peer group was set to biologers while you are no member of
that, and this in turn was because I made a mistake in setting up 
the edit-screen for prefs-profiles so that it presented people with
choices for peer-groups that they are no member of...

A check for this in the model might be nice but I didn't do that 
yet...

Anyway, the bug has been fixed now (I also reset your active peer-
group to the default one, so you should be able to login now)...

greetings,

Wybo

PS: It would be great if you joined us on the IRC-channel sometime.
People from Nijmegen are also to be found there usually... I will
be away for a few days as of an hour, so I won't be there untill
sunday evening, but they probably will...

> > Wybo
> >
> > > I couldn't login yet ;)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bruno

Hello everyone (and specifically Bruno),

Wybo has requested that everyone from the development team at the
Dutch university introduce oneself on the mailing list.

My name is Charl. I am a 3rd year computer science student, and I'm a
bit of a hacker who likes to be close to the machine (I like
assembly). My computer philosophy is: they don't call it "code" for no
reason. Of course, if I need to learn Ruby for the sake of LogiLogi, I
will. :)

I will (at least at first) be working on the diff-algorithm. After
some discussion and brainstorming, we decided to run some benchmarks,
and see if a significant advantage could be had by re-programming the
algorithm in C(++).

>From what I understand, you will be working largely on the GUI, so
you'll probably be communicating a lot with other members of the team,
namely Ilona and Andrew. They should be sending a similar introduction
e-mail to the list shortly!

Kind regards,
Charl

On 4/11/07, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > Logilogi.org:3000 is going down after I try to login from the
> > homepage. LL is down when myopenid.com returns me to LL after a
> > successful login.
>
> I tried to replicate the error, but at least when logging in with my
> own account I don't get the error. Also your home-page displays
> nicely...
>
> Note also that I made 2 small commits just yet that do:
> * extract the database-definition for the geo_user plugin (the small
>   google map at the side showing the user) to the plugin itself (in
>   vendor/plugins/geo_user/db/migrations)
> * enabled error-reporting for production mode... Making error-messages
>   of the pre-alpha more informative.
>
> Could you please try logging in again and then mail the error message
> if the problem still persists ?
>
Ok, I replicated the error.
The URL I use to login is exactly this one: http://brunosarlo.myopenid.com
The problem is not when I first enter the full URL. When I'm taken to
myopenid.com I checked and LL was working fine. The problem seems to
be after I login I'm taken back to LL, then this error raised:

 NoMethodError in Logi#show

Showing app/views/logi/_rating_menu.rhtml where line #9 raised:

You have a nil object when you didn't expect it!
The error occurred while evaluating nil.power_steps

Extracted source (around line #9):

6:   <% else %>
7:     Peer group: <%= select_tag 'peer_group',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.peer_groups, "id",
"to_s",
8:         User.current.active_prefs_profile.active_peer_group) %>
9:     Power: <%= select_tag 'power',
options_from_collection_for_select(User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_steps,
"to_f", "to_f",
10:         User.current.active_peer_group_membership.power_per_vote),
:class => 'float' %>
11:   <% end %>
12:   Rating: <%= select_tag 'score',
options_from_collection_for_select(Rating::SCORES_FOR_DROPDOWN,
"first", "last", 2.0),


> Wybo
>
> > I couldn't login yet ;)
> >
> > --
> > Bruno
>


-- 
Bruno

> Logilogi.org:3000 is going down after I try to login from the
> homepage. LL is down when myopenid.com returns me to LL after a
> successful login.

I tried to replicate the error, but at least when logging in with my
own account I don't get the error. Also your home-page displays
nicely...

Note also that I made 2 small commits just yet that do:
* extract the database-definition for the geo_user plugin (the small
  google map at the side showing the user) to the plugin itself (in
  vendor/plugins/geo_user/db/migrations)
* enabled error-reporting for production mode... Making error-messages
  of the pre-alpha more informative.

Could you please try logging in again and then mail the error message
if the problem still persists ?

Wybo

> I couldn't login yet ;)
> 
> -- 
> Bruno