Re: [LogiLogi-list] Selected logi and small color-tweak

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:14 PM, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
>
> Happy :)
>
> (also the blues are good, I am very positive about the taints of blue,
> and now the pplz who didn't like green will like it too :)
>
> Where did you get the color-scheme ?
>
It's from the latex pallet from inkscape that windoze version has,
nite colours. We should have skinable LL soon, and then there will be
for choice, and very light ones could be good for long readings, like
us that are lots of time on LL :)

>
> Still I do agree there must be decisions made now and then, and that
> we must move on too, but they never should be last words at which no
> reasoned critique is possible...
>
clearly that's not advisable, last word is same as "decisions made now
and then"...

> (When the project gets bigger there of course can be sub-groups for
> different domains & delegates and such, but they should always consist
> of a few pplz with equal rights...)
>
totally agree.. but, we have already lot's of work in all areas...
let's keep up the work :)

>> And yes, the web is big, and this project is libre. I also hope you
>> appreciate my work at logilogi.
>
> I do, I do very much.
>
thank you Wybo, maybe I was needing that...

> Also a mistake we both made in the design-process was not providing
> enough explanations / objective stuff with our changes, especially
> when things started bouncing back and forth... And maybe also not
> saying enough things ahead of time...
>
we got facinated with the UI itself and couldnt help to just go down
and paint, cut, move stuff arround :)

> For example an idea on the editing window is whether to have the query
> bar with the tags in view or not. I think we should, as it provides
> context and editing is a bit too simple for a wizzard...
>
> And also we should have either wizzards that take the whole screen,
> even the space of the title-bar (looking like overboxes, but acting
> like normal pages), or screens...

yes, that is a very good possibility... We will evolve in this aspect
too, we should find a place for navigation trace reference or similar,
but for now white screen and wizard is good... We'd have plenty of
space, that would let us be creative. We should cover al aspects of
usability to make a few clicks (or tabs) editing things. And we will
have it.

> This to prevent all kinds of awkward choices of what to add and what
> not, and also to make things simple for the user. Everything in screen
> is relevant and positioned with clear steps...
>
good.

> For eye-candy reasons we can leave the logi in it's exact place when
> adding links for example, and replace the page around it with the
> wizzard...

So, maybe the wizard should go at the level of the secondary tabs? I
think it would be good. A the place of labels have a wizard steps
navigation.

Miguel, please participate on this, you can work offlinte on this too!
I'm doing it right now whith the html, so I can't do much with svg as
I'm not on my computer to go online, etc.

>
> These are just ideas, but knowing in which direction pplz think can
> be handy when explaining or proposing other directions or
> suggestions...
certainly we agree.

>
> Also I think - guess - we can keep many of the wizzards in relatively
> unmodified form, except having them as non-overboxes, and some
> coloring to make them fit with the new UI...

Yes, the already structure with a little make up..

>
> Indeed a kickass UI! Very happy with it! Good work of us all!
>
Yes, I hope this gets more people involved back into the project too...


> saturday. Might also do some sketches or at least lists of elements for
> the mainpage and or edit...
>
Yes we should, here is part of the other mail I was writing:

still we have to work on the frontpage... the secondary tabs will
certainly help, and we could also have some other sidebars with tabs
too, or a third tabs box... we should start working on this. First
what we want to show, then how to do it.

Just quick thoughts:

= text introduction, very important, with links to help, login, create
account, etc.

= Logis Tagcloud
tabs: primary, secondary, users home, peergroups home
(I know there is no primary and secondary, but still, there is :)

= Recent changes
tabs: logis, comments, links, remarks

= New
tabs: users, peergroups, usersgroups

Please take this thoughts as very rough brainstorming

About the current design, things seem to be very possible and almost
done all difficult parts as rounded's and logi together to the
contenders list... Will copy to this computer and send when working
right.

On Thursday we'll have a muniato meeting, hope to have some news then.
I show the UI to some of them and got very good feedback sofar :) :)

> LogiLogi for all, all for LogiLogi :),

viva logilogi!!! :)

-- 
Bruno