Re: [LogiLogi-list] Some layout ideas

Hi Bruno,

As I already say at the irc channel, I liked the idea of moving the
info boxes to the top , I think that with a little javascript trick we
can enlarge the search area when necessary.
I also like in the second approach the idea of stress the logi with a
different color.
and the already mentioned by Wybo: rounded look of the
requested/received bars, help-icons and the user-picture


Miguel


On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Bruno <bs...@gm...> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:01 AM, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've spent some time today to get further in some ideas I had about
>>> the layout and design of logilogi...
>>>
>>> This is a work in progress so I start exposing at what I'm working now
>>> and ideas and critics are very well come.
>>
>> Ok, fasten your seatbelts :)
>
> :)
>
>>
>>> I've added a page [1] about it at the wiki with 2 png images. I'm
>>> willing to share the svg, it's 400kb and I'm not sure if to add it to
>>> the svn as another file or upgrade the current svg (which is the
>>> replica of the current layout)... I don't think it's good to add heavy
>>> files to the svn. I'll probably upload it to the wiki.
>>
>> I think it's fine if you add it to the svn. Under a different name
>> than the current, like ProposalA.svg, as probably when we come to the
>> UI we will be copying and pasting between them & make new versions,
>> etc...
>>
>> The size is not really an issue I think as most of us are on broadband
>> anyway, aren't we ?
>>
> Yes, so I'll upload it to the svn as UI_proposal_A_V2.1.svg
>
>> About your proposal: First of all, I don't think we will be able to
>> overhaul the UI just before the conferences anymore, as there still
>> enough to fix...
>>
> Ok, I didn't intend it for before the meeting, while I was motivated
> about it... :)
>
> Also, I wanted to remark about the current fixes and issues. We've
> alread gone throught the most nasty problemas of crossbrowser, mostly
> rounded corners that you solved greatly, so now, to go through a new
> interfase would not be so much work, and we will take in count from
> the beginning the current needs (new features, frontpage, etc), and
> others... This is also why I'm using the same elements and moving the
> arround, not becouse it's easier, but in order not to change so many
> things. In my current examples though, it could seem different because
> I removed the background boxes (and colours), but that was just
> testing...
>
>> Secondly, I really do like some aspects of the proposal you made, but
>> also dislike some parts of it. Also I have some questions.
>>
>> The questions:
>>
>> On what kind of monitor are you and Miguel (& others) ?
>> I am using a dual-monitor setup of 2 cheap-ass TFT's @ 1280x1024, with
>> irremovable color-differences even between them...
>>
> I work on my laptop which is an Acer Aspire 5050, only thing I know
> bout it is 14.1" "WXGA Acer CrystaBrite LCD
>
>> While the colors look faded on one, there is surely enough space to
>> see the Logi & panels on both of them (On my EEE-pc with 1024x600 on
>> the other hand all one sees are the top-bars & the title)
>
> I don't understand this point. What I intended to do was actually to
> design LL to even fit mobile phones (if it was html :). The sidebars
> would float left and go to the bottom of the logi if there werer no
> room...
>
>> Good in the proposal are, I tink:
>> - the rounded look of the requested/received bars
>> - the help-icons
>> - the user-picture in my_logilogi
>>
>> Bad/problematic are, I think:
>> - the search & requested/received bars are too short, should at least
>>  span till my_logilogi
>
> Ok, I have to explain here a little bit. This layout was thought to
> have more ajax functionalityes, and the search and tagging is one of
> them. I whought of tags suggestions while typing and to add one tag at
> a time, while you could add multiple, the search box is small :)
>
>> - the overall crammed look of it, too little space between (@ my size
>>  monitor)
>
> Yes, I agree with you on this, and also the white background with the
> soft-grey is not easy to read
>
>> - the panels are too close together & I think better when panels
>
> Certainly, it needs air... I'm not sure why I get obsesed with space
> and shrink it all together...
>
>> - the little calendar and the by - author name look good, and are
>>  missing here... (author name is there, but in a panel)
>>
> Yes, I also agree with you that they look good how they are now, but I
> thought it would be more clear and usefull if it was all logi-related
> information on the same place, but this is relative and we could try
> to fit the most relevant information of the logi, on the logi
> itself... Also about the calendar, I do like it, mostly when it's
> applied to blog posts, but I don't think it's being of use in this
> application, but this is probabbly becouse my perception of the
> elements is disturbed by the use I do of LL, proabbly someone else
> uses it and realizes that the date is over there and that is the date
> when it was created/modified... I would go for a plain boring "last
> modified: 11th June 2008"
>
>> Ambiguous are:
>> - the toolbar is missing ?
>
> Yes, I'm thinking about this. The gray bar over the logi would be a
> place to add the tool-bar... I'll think about this still.
>
>> - where are the tabs and network-bar ?
>>
>
> Also missing right now.
>
>> Maybe more later, but this is it for now, as I got to get back to the
>> presentations-preparations... Also I will try to fix your account now...
>
> Great, thanks for the critic and anybody elses opinion are also
> welcome! hope to keep more ideas comming.
>
> Talk later!
>
>>
>> Wybo
>>
>>> Later all.
>>>
>>> [1] http://logilogi.wiki.sourceforge.net/UI_V2.1
>>> --
>>> Bruno
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bruno
>
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