Re: [LogiLogi-list] LogiLogi VS Wiki

> Hello -
> 
> Following a link in your post to citizendium I found your site and read this:
>
>     " Although LogiLogi looks a bit like a wiki, and is all about open-ness,
> just like them, the difference between LogiLogi and most wiki's becomes more
> apparent in the direction LogiLogi takes. It targets discussion and
> philosophical and socio-scientific innovation instead of doc- or
> encyclopedia-building. Although there do exist a few discussion-wiki's, this is
> not the field in which they shine, and I think that this is because discussions
> require a different web-application."
>
> appreciate your sentiments and applaud your effort but I wonder: how does
> LogiLogi differ from Wiki? Since Wiki does not define itself by subject matter
> it must be more than that.

In LogiLogi page-rating and peer-group systems are central and page-locking is 
not an emergency measure. The open-ness in LogiLogi is in the fact that multiple
pages can compete for one name (concept with one or more names). In this aspect
it is simmilar to http://www.everything2.com. What LogiLogi adds to this is a 
hierarchy (Philosophy/Aristotle/Freedom) through a tagging system and rating 
from multiple points of view.

As Wiki's are defined by open edits for all, and generally a flat structure,
LogiLogi is different enough to allow for a different term.

> What I was looking for but did not find was some text that depicted the
> system design in operational terms; without those I find philosophical
> descriptions to serve as merely narrative.

I can try a little practical use case example: I am a visitor looking for 
something on the Philosophy of Aristotle (as opposed to his Historic influence). 
I key in http://www.logilogi.org/Philosophy/Aristotle. I visited LogiLogi 
before, so I already set my preferred languages, and peer-group. Thus from
the 30 or so articles that have Philosophy and Aristotle as their tags, twenty
remain that have Aristotle as their primary tag. Of those 10 remain in English. 
Those are sorted by the rating they received from my peer-group, and without
me doing anything the highest rated one is shown to me.

I can now rate it myself or look at the second-best article, and so on. Or I 
can edit it, if it was not locked. If it was (and the author thus was able to 
take intellectual responsibillity for it), and I really want to change it,
I can decide to fork it. It is then copied, and stored under a different 
unique-id, but it will be competing for the same tags (and others if I like
so, and my change gives reason for this).

Of course I as a visitor, or as an editor, can do much more with LogiLogi 
Manta, but this gives an idea.

> This interests me materially as there's a substantial "co-authoring" component 
> in my project (http://bentrem.sycks.net/gnodal/mandate.html).

I think LogiLogi could be just the project for you. Of course LogiLogi does 
not have Politics as it's primary objective, but it can be very usefull for 
people that want to be or become, or discuss things, as informed citizens.

Of course LogiLogi also has it's limits. Chatting will for example never be 
a part of LogiLogi.

Wybo

> regards
> ben

(ps: I forwarded this message to the logilogi mailinglist)