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Thank you so much for this guide!  I've been struggling to get
FinkCommander working again, and now it finally is!

Best,
Batshua

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 9:02 PM Michael Schmitt <
fin...@ms...> wrote:

> A solution to getting FinkCommander to work with the /opt/sw path as
> required by macOS 10.15 Catalina is as mentioned in this 12-22-2010 post
> https://sourceforge.net/p/finkcommander/bugs/157/#0fb2:
>
> 1. Right-click on FinkCommander and select Show Package Contents.
>
> 2. Navigate to FinkCommander.app/Contents/Resources/fpkg.list.pl.
>
> 3. Edit the file in a text editor.
>
> 4. Find the two lines:
>
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
>
> Comment these out by putting a # at the front:
>
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
>
> 5. Find the line "$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";  ". Comment this out,
> and insert instead:
>
> #$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";
> $configpath = `which fink`;
> chop $configpath;
> $configpath =~ s|bin/fink||;
> $configpath .= "etc/fink.conf";
>
> (The idea is that it will dynamically find where Fink is installed.)
>
> 6. Save the file and launch FinkCommander.
>
> 7. Set FinkCommander > Preferences > Paths > Path to fink files to Use
> this path: /opt/sw.  Leave Path to perl as /usr/bin/perl.
>
> 8. In the Environment pane, change or set environment key PERL5LIB to
> /opt/sw/lib/perl5, and add /opt to the two /sw folders in the PATH. My PATH
> is now
> /opt/sw/bin:/opt/sw/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin,
> yours may be different.
>
> I don't think FinkCommander requires Full Disk Access.
>
> I wish we could get a patch merged in to FinkCommander so other users
> won't have to go through all
> this._______________________________________________
> FinkCommander-users mailing list
> Fin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/finkcommander-users
>

Oops, I didn't intend to attach a file. Ignore it, that's the original file, not the modified version.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 7:41 PM, Michael Schmitt wrote:
> A solution to getting FinkCommander to work with the /opt/sw path as required by macOS 10.15 Catalina is as mentioned in this 12-22-2010 post https://sourceforge.net/p/finkcommander/bugs/157/#0fb2:
> 
> 1. Right-click on FinkCommander and select Show Package Contents.
> 
> 2. Navigate to FinkCommander.app/Contents/Resources/fpkg.list.pl <http://finkcommander.app/Contents/Resources/fpkg.list.pl>.
> 
> 3. Edit the file in a text editor.
> 
> 4. Find the two lines:
> 
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
> 
> Comment these out by putting a # at the front:
> 
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
> 
> 5. Find the line "$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";  ". Comment this out, and insert instead:
> 
> #$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";
> $configpath = `which fink`;
> chop $configpath;
> $configpath =~ s|bin/fink||;
> $configpath .= "etc/fink.conf";
> 
> (The idea is that it will dynamically find where Fink is installed.)
> 
> 6. Save the file and launch FinkCommander.
> 
> 7. Set FinkCommander > Preferences > Paths > Path to fink files to Use this path: /opt/sw.  Leave Path to perl as /usr/bin/perl.
> 
> 8. In the Environment pane, change or set environment key PERL5LIB to /opt/sw/lib/perl5, and add /opt to the two /sw folders in the PATH. My PATH is now /opt/sw/bin:/opt/sw/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin, yours may be different.
> 
> I don't think FinkCommander requires Full Disk Access.
> 
> I wish we could get a patch merged in to FinkCommander so other users won't have to go through all this.
> _______________________________________________
> FinkCommander-users mailing list
> Fin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/finkcommander-users
> 
> 
> *Attachments:*
>  * fpkg_list.pl

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 5:41 PM, Michael Schmitt <fin...@ms...> wrote:
> 
> A solution to getting FinkCommander to work with the /opt/sw path as required by macOS 10.15 Catalina is as mentioned in this 12-22-2010 post https://sourceforge.net/p/finkcommander/bugs/157/#0fb2:
> 
> 1. Right-click on FinkCommander and select Show Package Contents.
> 
> 2. Navigate to FinkCommander.app/Contents/Resources/fpkg.list.pl.
> 
> 3. Edit the file in a text editor.
> 
> 4. Find the two lines:
> 
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
> 
> Comment these out by putting a # at the front:
> 
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
> #use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";
> 
> 5. Find the line "$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";  ". Comment this out, and insert instead:
> 
> #$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";
> $configpath = `which fink`;
> chop $configpath;
> $configpath =~ s|bin/fink||;
> $configpath .= "etc/fink.conf";
> 
> (The idea is that it will dynamically find where Fink is installed.)
> 
> 6. Save the file and launch FinkCommander.
> 
> 7. Set FinkCommander > Preferences > Paths > Path to fink files to Use this path: /opt/sw.  Leave Path to perl as /usr/bin/perl.
> 
> 8. In the Environment pane, change or set environment key PERL5LIB to /opt/sw/lib/perl5, and add /opt to the two /sw folders in the PATH. My PATH is now /opt/sw/bin:/opt/sw/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin, yours may be different.
> 
> I don't think FinkCommander requires Full Disk Access.
> 
> I wish we could get a patch merged in to FinkCommander so other users won't have to go through all this.<fpkg_list.pl>_______________________________________________
> FinkCommander-users mailing list
> Fin...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/finkcommander-users


I’m honestly surprised that FinkCommander is still usable at this point.  It hasn’t been updated since 2009.  I don’t even know if it’s buildable on modern systems.

Unfortunately, we’ve always lacked somebody with the combination of ObjC knowledge and free time to give it the love it deserves.  Since it’s effectively been abandoned by its original developer, the Fink Project ought at least to adopt its source code.

—akh

A solution to getting FinkCommander to work with the /opt/sw path as required by macOS 10.15 Catalina is as mentioned in this 12-22-2010 post https://sourceforge.net/p/finkcommander/bugs/157/#0fb2:

1. Right-click on FinkCommander and select Show Package Contents.

2. Navigate to FinkCommander.app/Contents/Resources/fpkg.list.pl.

3. Edit the file in a text editor.

4. Find the two lines:

use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";

Comment these out by putting a # at the front:

#use lib "/sw/lib/perl5";
#use lib "/sw/lib/perl5/darwin";

5. Find the line "$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";  ". Comment this out, and insert instead:

#$configpath = "/sw/etc/fink.conf";
$configpath = `which fink`;
chop $configpath;
$configpath =~ s|bin/fink||;
$configpath .= "etc/fink.conf";

(The idea is that it will dynamically find where Fink is installed.)

6. Save the file and launch FinkCommander.

7. Set FinkCommander > Preferences > Paths > Path to fink files to Use this path: /opt/sw.  Leave Path to perl as /usr/bin/perl.

8. In the Environment pane, change or set environment key PERL5LIB to /opt/sw/lib/perl5, and add /opt to the two /sw folders in the PATH. My PATH is now /opt/sw/bin:/opt/sw/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin, yours may be different.

I don't think FinkCommander requires Full Disk Access.

I wish we could get a patch merged in to FinkCommander so other users won't have to go through all this.

So I've just done a fresh install of fink on Catalina to /opt/sw since you
can't use /sw anymore and Finkcommander won't self-repair. I thought I
updated all the paths properly in the preferences, but maybe I've done
something wrong. Would folks be so kind as to suggest how best to proceed?

Thanks so much!

Batshua

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On 3/3/14 3:40 AM, SergeGardien wrote:
> Alexander, you should have not suggested the commands:
> cd $HOME/Library
> rm -rf "Application Support"
>
> By doing this it can happen that you delete all the preferences of
> different software (ex. Firefox bookmarks, passwords, etc.).
> I'm telling this because I've incurred in the problem and now I'm trying
> to recover all the data.
>
> Regarding the issue with FinkCommander I've solved it by changing the
> path of PERL in the FinkCommander preferences.
>
> PS: I hope I havent messed-up with the mailing-list given that I
> "hard-coded" the reply message (I wasn't subscribed to the mailing list
> in first instance and I wasn't able to reply with other means)
>
> Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 18:57:01 -0700
> From: Alexander Hansen <ale...@gm...
> <mailto:ale...@gm...>>
> Subject: Re: [finkcommander-users] setup
> To: "W. Stephen Wilson" <ws...@ma... <mailto:ws...@ma...>>
> Cc: fin...@li...
> <mailto:fin...@li...>
> Message-ID: <4FB...@gm... <mailto:4FB...@gm...>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 5/14/12 5:30 PM, W. Stephen Wilson wrote:
>  >
>  > Have used fink and fink commander for years.  Have a new
>  > mac with Lion on it.  fink set up easily and nicely and
>  > seems to work well, but fink commander just says "updating the
>  > table data" endlessly and never shows me anything or does
>  > anything else.  I can run things in terminal through
>  > fink commander, but that's all.  I hate change. (for
>  > the worse that is)
>  >
>  > Steve
>  >
>
> Fink Commander hasn't changed much since 2004 or so :-)
>
> That's part of the problem--it hasn't kept up with changes in the
> underlying command-line tools.
>
> However, I just tried downloading, installing, and running Fink
> Commander on my own Lion system.  The "update table" message ran for a
> while, and then it let me do stuff.
>
> You might try the following:
> 1) Quit FinkCommander if it's running and use
>
> cd $HOME/Library
> rm -rf "Application Support"
> rm -rf Preferences/com.sburrious.
> finkcommander.plist
>
> 2)  Start Fink Commander again and see if the table update works.
>
> 3) If not, repeat step 1, download a new copy of FinkCommander, delete
> the old one, and install the new one and try using it (that _has_ worked
> for me with some issues before, oddly enough).

Oops, that was indeed not quite right.  The intent was just to clear out 
FinkCommander's items, which would be

cd $HOME/Library
rm -rf "Application Support/Fink Commander"
rm -rf Preferences/com.sburrious.finkcommander.plist

or use the Finder.

Another potentially safer method would be.

cd $HOME/Library
mv "Application Support/Fink Commander" "Application Support/Fink 
Commander.bkup"
mv Preferences/com.sburrious.finkcommander.plist 
Preferences/com.sburrious.finkcommander.plist.bkup

-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/

Alexander, you should have not suggested the commands:
cd $HOME/Library
rm -rf "Application Support"

By doing this it can happen that you delete all the preferences of
different software (ex. Firefox bookmarks, passwords, etc.).
I'm telling this because I've incurred in the problem and now I'm trying to
recover all the data.

Regarding the issue with FinkCommander I've solved it by changing the path
of PERL in the FinkCommander preferences.

PS: I hope I havent messed-up with the mailing-list given that I
"hard-coded" the reply message (I wasn't subscribed to the mailing list in
first instance and I wasn't able to reply with other means)

Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 18:57:01 -0700
From: Alexander Hansen <ale...@gm...>
Subject: Re: [finkcommander-users] setup
To: "W. Stephen Wilson" <ws...@ma...>
Cc: fin...@li...
Message-ID: <4FB...@gm...>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 5/14/12 5:30 PM, W. Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> Have used fink and fink commander for years.  Have a new
> mac with Lion on it.  fink set up easily and nicely and
> seems to work well, but fink commander just says "updating the
> table data" endlessly and never shows me anything or does
> anything else.  I can run things in terminal through
> fink commander, but that's all.  I hate change. (for
> the worse that is)
>
> Steve
>

Fink Commander hasn't changed much since 2004 or so :-)

That's part of the problem--it hasn't kept up with changes in the
underlying command-line tools.

However, I just tried downloading, installing, and running Fink
Commander on my own Lion system.  The "update table" message ran for a
while, and then it let me do stuff.

You might try the following:
1)  Quit FinkCommander if it's running and use

cd $HOME/Library
rm -rf "Application Support"
rm -rf Preferences/com.sburrious.
finkcommander.plist

2)  Start Fink Commander again and see if the table update works.

3)  If not, repeat step 1, download a new copy of FinkCommander, delete
the old one, and install the new one and try using it (that _has_ worked
for me with some issues before, oddly enough).
--
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
http://finkakh.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/got-job/

I have decided to discontinue my shareware GUI app for Fink, 
Phynchronicity, after six years of development. After some positive 
exposure and decent sales for a few years, the app's sales have dwindled 
down to almost nothing. Somewhat to my surprise, Phynchronicity never 
gained much traction against FinkCommander, which continues to get tons 
of downloads despite not really being updated for a decade. I suspect 
this has a lot to do with "free as in beer" (more than "free as in 
speech"). Also, of course, FC is a well--designed app even if it has not 
worn well in recent years.

While I don't plan to work on Phynchrronicity again, if anyone else from 
the FInk project is interested in working on it, I would consider 
open-sourcing it under a suitable license. Whoever takes up development 
will need advanced skills with Python, Tkinter, and Tcl/Tk. Feel free to 
contact me on or off-list if you'd like to discuss further.

Thank you,
Kevin
-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin/Mobile Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
http://www.wtmobilesoftware.com

On 10/30/12 10:00 AM, Galen Tackett wrote:
> Well it turns out NOT to be a problem with just FinkCommander, hence it
> is technically off topic here. 
> 
> Today I discovered that the same symptoms are showing up when I run the
> hex editor "0xed.app"
> 
> Any suggestions or ideas are still welcome. If you'd rather send them
> directly to gltmailbox _dash_ fontproblem _at_ yahoo _dot_ com (a
> disposable address so it doesn't matter much if it is compromised.)
> 
> On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Galen Tackett wrote:
> 

Fink Commander hasn't been actively developed in many years, so its
interaction with newer OS X versions may well have gaps.

-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
My package updates: http://finkakh.wordpress.com/

Well it turns out NOT to be a problem with just FinkCommander, hence  
it is technically off topic here.

Today I discovered that the same symptoms are showing up when I run  
the hex editor "0xed.app"

Any suggestions or ideas are still welcome. If you'd rather send them  
directly to gltmailbox _dash_ fontproblem _at_ yahoo _dot_ com (a  
disposable address so it doesn't matter much if it is compromised.)

On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:32 PM, Galen Tackett wrote:

> Some time ago I began seeing strange-looking windows when I launched  
> FinkCommander.
>
> Text (in FinkCommander's menus and in the text display areas of its  
> window) is displayed with black boxes the size of each character,  
> instead of the actual characters. And parts of the toolbar are also  
> drawn strangely.
>
> A screenshot of this may be seen at:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/528309/Strange_screen_in_FinkCommander.jpg
>
> or if you prefer a shortened version:
>
> http://db.tt/V5D3LWRj
>
> The first time this happened, after trying a bunch of things like  
> clearing the font cache (and immediately rebooting) without results,  
> I downloaded the sources for FinkCommander and built a new copy. The  
> new copy worked, the old one still had the strange display.
>
> It started happening again recently, and rebuilding now doesn't fix  
> it. (Maybe last time it was just coincidence, after I'd changed  
> something else I thought hadn't worked.)
>
> No other applications are showing any problems with fonts.
>
> Ideas, anyone?
>
> :-)

Galen

Some time ago I began seeing strange-looking windows when I launched  
FinkCommander.

Text (in FinkCommander's menus and in the text display areas of its  
window) is displayed with black boxes the size of each character,  
instead of the actual characters. And parts of the toolbar are also  
drawn strangely.

A screenshot of this may be seen at:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/528309/Strange_screen_in_FinkCommander.jpg

or if you prefer a shortened version:

http://db.tt/V5D3LWRj

The first time this happened, after trying a bunch of things like  
clearing the font cache (and immediately rebooting) without results, I  
downloaded the sources for FinkCommander and built a new copy. The new  
copy worked, the old one still had the strange display.

It started happening again recently, and rebuilding now doesn't fix  
it. (Maybe last time it was just coincidence, after I'd changed  
something else I thought hadn't worked.)

No other applications are showing any problems with fonts.

Ideas, anyone?

:-)

Galen

Whee!  I had heard this one before, but looked in /Library instead of my own library and there was nothing there to delete.  I might be okay now.  At least I have a visible updated table.

Thanks.

Steve

On May 14, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

> On 5/14/12 5:30 PM, W. Stephen Wilson wrote:
>> 
>> Have used fink and fink commander for years.  Have a new
>> mac with Lion on it.  fink set up easily and nicely and
>> seems to work well, but fink commander just says "updating the
>> table data" endlessly and never shows me anything or does
>> anything else.  I can run things in terminal through
>> fink commander, but that's all.  I hate change. (for
>> the worse that is)
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
> 
> Fink Commander hasn't changed much since 2004 or so :-)
> 
> That's part of the problem--it hasn't kept up with changes in the
> underlying command-line tools.
> 
> However, I just tried downloading, installing, and running Fink
> Commander on my own Lion system.  The "update table" message ran for a
> while, and then it let me do stuff.
> 
> You might try the following:
> 1)  Quit FinkCommander if it's running and use
> 
> cd $HOME/Library
> rm -rf "Application Support"
> rm -rf Preferences/com.sburrious.finkcommander.plist
> 
> 2)  Start Fink Commander again and see if the table update works.
> 
> 3)  If not, repeat step 1, download a new copy of FinkCommander, delete
> the old one, and install the new one and try using it (that _has_ worked
> for me with some issues before, oddly enough).
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
> http://finkakh.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/got-job/

On 5/14/12 9:57 PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:
> Fink Commander hasn't changed much since 2004 or so

You could also try a different Fink GUI tool, one that is actively 
maintained:

http://www.codebykevin.com/phynchronicity.html

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com

On 5/14/12 5:30 PM, W. Stephen Wilson wrote:
> 
> Have used fink and fink commander for years.  Have a new
> mac with Lion on it.  fink set up easily and nicely and
> seems to work well, but fink commander just says "updating the
> table data" endlessly and never shows me anything or does
> anything else.  I can run things in terminal through
> fink commander, but that's all.  I hate change. (for
> the worse that is)
> 
> Steve
> 

Fink Commander hasn't changed much since 2004 or so :-)

That's part of the problem--it hasn't kept up with changes in the
underlying command-line tools.

However, I just tried downloading, installing, and running Fink
Commander on my own Lion system.  The "update table" message ran for a
while, and then it let me do stuff.

You might try the following:
1)  Quit FinkCommander if it's running and use

cd $HOME/Library
rm -rf "Application Support"
rm -rf Preferences/com.sburrious.finkcommander.plist

2)  Start Fink Commander again and see if the table update works.

3)  If not, repeat step 1, download a new copy of FinkCommander, delete
the old one, and install the new one and try using it (that _has_ worked
for me with some issues before, oddly enough).
-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
http://finkakh.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/got-job/

Have used fink and fink commander for years.  Have a new
mac with Lion on it.  fink set up easily and nicely and
seems to work well, but fink commander just says "updating the
table data" endlessly and never shows me anything or does
anything else.  I can run things in terminal through
fink commander, but that's all.  I hate change. (for
the worse that is)

Steve

Hello,

I've known you website for ages, strictly speaking from year 1995. I found  
interesting your publication "FinkCommander - About FinkCommander" which I  
googled on http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/about/ ! I'd love to use it  
in a project I'm involved with called "Armenian FCW Science", so I'm  
seeking your permission for translation to Armenian language. "Armenian FCW  
Science" is a freemium-model non-English language orientated startup with  
collection of scientific articles, personal notes etc. in several languages  
that is collaboratively edited by volunteers from around the world since  
1999. Young and old, students and professors - even your neighbor could be  
a volunteer member.

If you agree, we will credit you for your work in the resulting  
translation's references by stating that it was based on your work and is  
used with your permission, and by mentioning the name of my  
project "Armenian FCW Science" back to:
http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/about/

Thank you for your time and patience.
I look forward to your response next week.

---
Happy and successful 2012,
Karen Mgebrova
Yerevan, Armenia
(GMT +4)

Hello,

I've known you website for ages, strictly speaking from year 1995. I found  
interesting your publication "FinkCommander - About FinkCommander" which I  
googled on http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/about/ ! I'd love to use it  
in a project I'm involved with called "Armenian FCW Science", so I'm  
seeking your permission for translation to Armenian language. "Armenian FCW  
Science" is a freemium-model non-English language orientated startup with  
collection of scientific articles, personal notes etc. in several languages  
that is collaboratively edited by volunteers from around the world since  
1999. Young and old, students and professors - even your neighbor could be  
a volunteer member.

If you agree, we will credit you for your work in the resulting  
translation's references by stating that it was based on your work and is  
used with your permission, and by mentioning the name of my  
project "Armenian FCW Science" back to:
http://finkcommander.sourceforge.net/about/

Thank you for your time and patience.
I look forward to your response next week.

---
Happy and successful 2012,
Karen Mgebrova
Yerevan, Armenia
(GMT +4)

FWIW ...

Fetched the source tar-ball for FC 0.5.5 and got a 32-bit debug
target after adjusting build settings.

Settings changed: 32-bit, 10.7 SDK and default compiler, no code signing,
install directories.

There were 41 warnings but it runs.

I tested it some and so far it seems to be working.

Still considering what to do about warnings and code-signing.

Logs and files available if anybody wants to take a look.

Michael Cook

Michael,

On 11/9/11 11:12 PM, Michael Cook MTS2 wrote:
> I  don't really want to try Phynchronicity because it's shareware; a license costs $24.99 and it's only a 30-day trial period.

As the developer of Phynchronicity, I find this comment interesting on 
several levels. I gather it's a fairly common sentiment among Fink 
users, because Phynchronicity doesn't sell in high volume.

I would certainly understand the low sales of Phynchronicity if 
FinkCommander were updated even at a semi-regular level. Good commercial 
has a tough time competing with good free, and FinkCommander was a 
terrific program when Steven Burr was maintaining it. I used it all the 
time with Fink. My main motivation to write Phynchronicity was to 
provide a different style of interface that I had come to prefer (the 
three-pane interface). I didn't expect to retire on sales of 
Phynchronicity licenses, but I did think that some people might prefer 
the three-pane interface style.

What I did not anticipate was the stubborn insistence of the Fink 
community in continuing to use a program, however powerful, that had 
been abandoned by its developer, and which no one else saw any value in 
updating in a significant way. Apart from a new icon and a universal 
binary build, FinkCommander today is as it was in 2003, nearly a decade 
ago. Getting it to work on new versions of OS X is increasingly hard, as 
I've seen on this mailing list. It doesn't work on my system at all (it 
just sits there displaying the "updating table data" progress bar).

The released version of FinkCommander is an orphan, suffering (in my 
view) from terminal bit-rot. A few years ago some guy announced plans to 
rewrite FinkCommander in PyObjC, but that apparently went nowhere. Now 
there does actually appear to be a next-generation version in 
development by someone (get it via hg clone 
http://finkcommander.hg.sourceforge.net:8000/hgroot/finkcommander/finkcommander 
), but there's been no public announcement of this work; the version 
that can be obtained via Mercurial doesn't build on Xcode 4.2, anyway, 
so maybe its lack of visibility is no loss.

Nonetheless, this presents a dilemma for Fink users, especially those 
who prefer a GUI. No one in the community cares enough to provide an 
up-to-date, free, open-source GUI for Fink. That's not necessarily 
surprising--GUI development is hard work. (It's taken the MacPorts 
community three or four years to produce a stable, lightweight OSS GUI 
for MacPorts that does less than the commercial GUI I provide.) Compared 
to the paltry options for a free/OSS GUI for Fink, Phynchronicity has 
been updated a dozen times since its intiial release four years ago. 
Yes, it costs $25--that's less than a tank of gas. If you use Fink for 
serious work, that is a reasonable investment. (If you're just playing 
with Fink, then perhaps the value equation changes.)

The nearly-complete resistance of the Fink community to a good, stable, 
commercial GUI to Fink is a bit of a mystery to me; my MacPorts GUI 
sells much better, even with competition from a Cocoa-based OSS MacPorts 
GUI that is now far superior to the current version of FinkCommander. 
Still, Phynchronicity will continue to be available, and may save you 
some headaches compared to FinkCommander.

--Kevin

-- 
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com