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Bugs item #1935754, was opened at 2008-04-06 04:49
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
>Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: continued saved game problem

Initial Comment:
I saved a game mid-turn. I had moved 2 legions, then saved. When I came back to play later, it wouldn't let me continue until I moved another legion. The two previously moved legions couldn't move again, but it didn't consider them as having moved for purposes of the requirement of moving at least one legion.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-04-06 15:22

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Yes, that is true, it's a known problem.

To be able to continue the game, we've added at least a
"Forced Done" menu item, until we are able to fix this
properly.

-Clemens


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Bugs item #2120052, was opened at 2008-09-20 05:32
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Works For Me
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: New application fails to download

Initial Comment:
An automatic upgrade tries to download when I start Colossus. "Download stalled" occurs at same point (approximately 30% into download cycle)
Great game, though.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 22:08

Message:

Did you ever try, did it ever happen again?

If noone responds to this any more I will assume it was 
a temporary problem caused by the SF migration, and close this
in a few weeks...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-20 07:57

Message:

Sourceforge is doing currently data migration (esp. now the web service
stuff) from old location to Chicago, and the stuff you download is on that
web service pages. Maybe this affected your access. 

I just tried it once (the pink icon on main Colossus homepage) and it
worked fine.

http://colossus.sourceforge.net/

Can you try again?

-Clemens


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Bugs item #2090148, was opened at 2008-09-03 04:56
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Stack Size Overflow

Initial Comment:
Aug 22/08 build allows stacks greater than 7. Have seen stacks up to 11. Additional units do not show up on the battle mat. Didn't notice if they were included in the points when on the losing side of a battle. Don't know if the stack wins with the off board pieces if all pieces deleted from both sides. Extra pieces seem to be a cross link to another stack. Green had two stacks with a Green Titan in each one. Thus the crosslinking seems to be the best explanation.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 22:06

Message:

>From all the recent bugs this (and one other) are the only ones 
where I don't know whether the root cause is the same like in 
the many others (messages lost from server to client) and thus
whether the recet corrections have eliminated or not.

We will make a new public build soon.


Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

If you try this one, <B>please do report in case you encounter it
again!</B>
(I guess NOT seeing it does not say anything, it may just not "happen"
even if the bug is still there, right).


-Clemens



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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 04:37

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File Added: 8stack.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 04:36

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Playing another game today. Here is an 8 piece stack. Here is the log.
Image from right clicking attached. Game had not been saved yet. I have
saved it now and will upload the saved game.

Babbling Balrog chooses color Blue
Setting for "<By type>5" new name: Milvang5
Milvang5 chooses color Gold
Setting for "<By type>4" new name: Hater4
Hater4 chooses color Brown
Setting for "<By type>1" new name: Rational1
Rational1 chooses color Red
Setting for "<By type>3" new name: Rational3
Rational3 chooses color Green
Setting for "<By type>2" new name: Hater2
Hater2 chooses color Black
Hater2 selects initial marker
Rational3 selects initial marker
Rational1 selects initial marker
Babbling Balrog selects initial marker
Hater4 selects initial marker
Milvang5 selects initial marker
4 creatures are split off from legion Bk06 into new legion Bk08
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk08 (Rose) in Tower hex 600 tower teleports (Titan) to Brush hex
38 entering on Bottom
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Tower hex 600 moves to Marsh hex 131 entering
on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bk06 in Marsh hex 131 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bk08 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational3's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gr03 into new legion Gr06
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan and rolls 4
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Tower hex 500 moves to Plains hex 34 entering on
Right
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Tower hex 500 moves to Marsh hex 126 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 26 left.
Legion Gr03 in Marsh hex 126 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Centaur - now there are 12 left.
Legion Gr06 in Plains hex 34 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Rational1's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Rd02 into new legion Rd10
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 5 for movement
Rational1 takes a mulligan
Rational1 rolls a 3 for movement
Rational1 takes a mulligan and rolls 3
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Tower hex 400 moves to Marsh hex 22 entering on
Right
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Tower hex 400 moves to Brush hex 120 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 25 left.
Legion Rd02 in Marsh hex 22 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 26 left.
Legion Rd10 in Brush hex 120 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu02
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Babbling Balrog takes a mulligan
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Babbling Balrog takes a mulligan and rolls 3
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Tower hex 300 moves to Brush hex 113 entering on
Left
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Tower hex 300 moves to Plains hex 15 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bu02 in Plains hex 15 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Cyclops - now there are 25 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 113 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Hater4's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br04
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Tower hex 200 moves to Marsh hex 13 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 12 left.
Legion Br03 in Marsh hex 13 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Milvang5's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gd02 into new legion Gd03
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 2 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan
Milvang5 rolls a 2 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan and rolls 2
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Tower hex 100 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 11 left.
Legion Gd02 in Hills hex 4 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Hater2's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bk08 (Rose) in Brush hex 38 moves to Plains hex 133 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 11 left.
Legion Bk08 in Plains hex 133 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Rational3's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Marsh hex 126 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Plains hex 34 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gr03 in Marsh hex 122 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Added Cyclops - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational1's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Brush hex 120 moves to Plains hex 115 entering on
Left
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Marsh hex 22 moves to Marsh hex 27 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 23 left.
Legion Rd02 in Marsh hex 27 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Added Centaur - now there are 10 left.
Legion Rd10 in Plains hex 115 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 113 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Plains hex 15 moves to Mountains hex 3000 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Druid - now there are 17 left.
Legion Bu05 in Abyss hex 12 recruits Druid with 1 Titan
Added Lion - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bu02 in Mountains hex 3000 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater4's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Br04 (Figurehead) in Tower hex 200 moves to Brush hex 10 entering
on Right
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Marsh hex 13 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 23 left.
Legion Br04 in Brush hex 10 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Milvang5's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd03 (Coins) in Tower hex 100 moves to Marsh hex 140 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 10 left.
Legion Gd03 in Marsh hex 140 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Hater2's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bk08 (Rose) in Plains hex 133 moves to Brush hex 130 entering on
Right
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Marsh hex 131 moves to Plains hex 34 entering
on Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bk06 in Plains hex 34 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Cyclops - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bk08 in Brush hex 130 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational3's turn, number 3
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr03 into new legion Gr08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr08 (Harp) in Marsh hex 122 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Right
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Marsh hex 122 moves to Plains hex 20 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 8 left.
Legion Gr03 in Plains hex 20 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Rational1's turn, number 3
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd02 into new legion Rd12
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Plains hex 115 moves to Jungle hex 111 entering on
Right
Legion Rd12 (Torch) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Brush hex 31 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Brush hex 127 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 21 left.
Legion Rd10 in Jungle hex 111 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Mountains hex 3000 moves to Hills hex 18 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bu02 in Hills hex 18 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Hater4's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br04 (Figurehead) in Brush hex 10 moves to Hills hex 9 entering on
Left
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Br03 (Hater4) attacks Bu05 (Babbling Balrog) in Abyss hex 12
Titan moves from X0 to D5
Cyclops moves from X0 to E4
Druid moves from X0 to D4
Gargoyle moves from X0 to C4
Gargoyle moves from X0 to E3
Ogre moves from X0 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Titan in Drift (1) hex D5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Titan in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Cyclops in Drift (1) hex E4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4 takes Hex damage
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex E3 takes Hex damage
Critter Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3 takes Hex damage
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater4's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X3 to C3
Centaur moves from X3 to B3
Centaur moves from X3 to B4
Ogre moves from X3 to D2
Ogre moves from X3 to C2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Titan in Drift (1) hex D5: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Titan in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Cyclops in Drift (1) hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Cyclops in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4 takes Hex damage
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex E3: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex E3 takes Hex damage
Critter Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3 takes Hex damage
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex C3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Angel in Drift (1) hex C3 takes Hex damage
Centaur in Tower (2) hex B3 strikes Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4 with
strike number 2, rolling: 232: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4: 2 + 3 => 4; 1 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Ogre in Tower (2) hex D2 strikes Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 133343: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3: 2 + 5 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Angel in Drift (1) hex C3 strikes Druid in Drift hex D4 with strike number
4, rolling: 214536: 3 hits
Critter Druid in Drift hex D4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Druid in Drift hex D4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Druid in Drift hex D4 strikes Angel in Drift (1) hex C3 with strike number
4, rolling: 652: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex C3: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Drift (1) hex C4 strikes Angel in Drift (1) hex C3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 6663: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex C3: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex C3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Ogre in Drift (1) hex D3 strikes Ogre in Tower (2) hex D2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 226246: 2 hits
Critter Ogre in Tower (2) hex D2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from D5 to F4
Cyclops moves from E4 to E5
Gargoyle moves from E3 to F3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater4's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from B4 to D6
Ogre moves from D2 to F2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 with
strike number 2, rolling: 522: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Ogre in Tower (2) hex F2 strikes Gargoyle in Tower (2) hex F3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 622331: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Tower (2) hex F3: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 6, rolling: 361112566: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Gargoyle in Tower (2) hex F3 strikes Ogre in Tower (2) hex F2 with strike
number 3, rolling: 5665: 4 hits
Critter Ogre in Tower (2) hex F2: 2 + 4 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Tower (2) hex F2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater4's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from B3 to D6
Ogre moves from C2 to E2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 with
strike number 2, rolling: 213: 2 hits
Critter Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5: 5 + 2 => 7; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 6, rolling: 452351122: 0 hits
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 4
Added Druid - now there are 16 left.
Legion Bu05 in Abyss hex 12 recruits Druid with 1 Titan
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from F3 to C5
Titan moves from F4 to E1
Druid moves from X0 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Tower (2) hex E1 strikes Ogre in Tower (2) hex E2 with strike
number 1, rolling: 543321: 6 hits
Critter Ogre in Tower (2) hex E2: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Tower (2) hex E2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 6, rolling: 465424543: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 5, rolling: 5454: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Tower (2) hex E2 strikes Titan in Tower (2) hex E1 with strike
number 6, rolling: 621155: 1 hit
Critter Titan in Tower (2) hex E1: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 with
strike number 2, rolling: 642: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5: 7 + 3 => 9; 1 excess
Critter Cyclops in Tower (2) hex E5 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Babbling Balrog earns 72.0 points (0.0 + 72.0 => 72.0)
Legion Br03[] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 8 left.
Legion Br04 in Hills hex 9 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Milvang5's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 2 for movement
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Hills hex 4 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk06 into new legion Bk02
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk08 into new legion Bk09
Legion Bk09[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk09 recombined into legion Bk08
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Plains hex 34 moves to Swamp hex 132 entering
on Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bk06 in Swamp hex 132 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Rational3's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Gr08 (Harp) in Brush hex 24 moves to Hills hex 23 entering on Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Brush hex 38 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Plains hex 20 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 7 left.
Legion Gr03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Lion - now there are 25 left.
Legion Gr06 in Plains hex 1 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Ogre - now there are 7 left.
Legion Gr08 in Hills hex 23 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Rational1's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd10 into new legion Rd01
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Brush hex 127 moves to Plains hex 29 entering on
Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Desert hex 107 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 6 left.
Legion Rd02 in Plains hex 29 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu02 into new legion Bu12
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Hills hex 18 moves to Brush hex 116 entering on
Right
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Abyss hex 12 moves to Marsh hex 112 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater4's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br04 (Figurehead) in Hills hex 9 moves to Plains hex 15 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Brush hex 102 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gd02 in Plains hex 101 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk08 into new legion Bk04
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Brush hex 130 moves to Jungle hex 128 entering on
Right
Legion Bk02 (Eye) in Plains hex 34 moves to Marsh hex 136 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 21 left.
Legion Bk02 in Marsh hex 136 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 20 left.
Legion Bk04 in Jungle hex 128 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational3's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr07
Legion Gr07[Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Legion Gr07 recombined into legion Gr06
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Plains hex 1 moves to Desert hex 7 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational1's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Marsh hex 108 entering on
Left
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Plains hex 29 moves to Mountains hex 3000 entering
on Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Desert hex 107 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 19 left.
Legion Rd01 in Jungle hex 104 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Marsh hex 112 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Brush hex 116 moves to Desert hex 114 entering on
Right
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Hills hex 18 moves to Brush hex 116 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 23 left.
Legion Bu02 in Desert hex 114 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater4's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br04 (Figurehead) in Plains hex 15 moves to Plains hex 20 entering
on Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Plains hex 101 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 22 left.
Legion Gd02 in Plains hex 6 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bk08 (Rose) in Brush hex 130 moves to Desert hex 125 entering on
Right
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Jungle hex 128 moves to Brush hex 123 entering on
Right
Legion Bk02 (Eye) in Marsh hex 136 moves to Marsh hex 131 entering on
Left
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Swamp hex 132 moves to Brush hex 127 entering
on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 20 left.
Legion Bk02 in Marsh hex 131 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Added Cyclops - now there are 18 left.
Legion Bk04 in Brush hex 123 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational3's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr12
Legion Gr12[Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Legion Gr12 recombined into legion Gr06
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Desert hex 7 moves to Marsh hex 8 entering on Right
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Woods hex 25 moves to Plains hex 124 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gr03 in Plains hex 124 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Rational1's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Mountains hex 3000 moves to Plains hex 20 entering
on Right
Legion Rd12 (Torch) in Brush hex 31 moves to Hills hex 37 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Rd02 (Rational1) attacks Br04 (Hater4) in Plains hex 20
Titan moves from X4 to A1
Ogre moves from X4 to B2
Cyclops moves from X4 to A2
Ogre moves from X4 to B3
Gargoyle moves from X4 to A3
Gargoyle moves from X4 to C3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational1's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X1 to C4
Troll moves from X1 to E3
Troll moves from X1 to E4
Centaur moves from X1 to D4
Centaur moves from X1 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex D3 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex C3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 241: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex C3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex D4 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex C3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 433: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex C3: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex C3 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Angel in Plains hex C4 strikes Ogre in Plains hex B3 with strike number 2,
rolling: 461223: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B3: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains hex B3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C4 with strike number 6,
rolling: 156263: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex C4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Plains hex C3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex D4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 6546: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex D4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex D4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Hater4's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from A3 to B1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Ogre in Plains hex B3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C4 with strike number 6,
rolling: 554152: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex C4 strikes Ogre in Plains hex B3 with strike number 2,
rolling: 661321: 4 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B3: 5 + 4 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Rational1's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from C4 to C2
Troll moves from E3 to C3
Troll moves from E4 to D4
Centaur moves from D3 to C1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex C3 strikes Ogre in Plains hex B2 with strike number 4,
rolling: 41151515: 4 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex C1 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex B1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 216: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex B1: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Angel in Plains hex C2 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex B1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 443552: 5 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex B1: 1 + 5 => 4; 2 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex B1 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
2 carries available
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B2: 4 + 2 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex B2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
2 hits carry to Ogre in Plains hex B2
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains hex B2 strikes Troll in Plains hex C3 with strike number 4,
rolling: 333123: 0 hits
Gargoyle in Plains hex B1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C1 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2121: 0 hits
Hater4's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational1's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from C2 to A3
Troll moves from C3 to B1
Troll moves from D4 to B3
Centaur moves from C1 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains (1) hex A3 strikes Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 with
strike number 2, rolling: 111615: 2 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Troll in Plains hex B1 strikes Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 with strike
number 6, rolling: 64641651: 3 hits
Critter Titan in Plains (1) hex A1: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Troll in Plains hex B3 strikes Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 15633565: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2: 2 + 5 => 7; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex B2 strikes Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 with strike
number 6, rolling: 526: 1 hit
Critter Titan in Plains (1) hex A1: 3 + 1 => 4; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 strikes Troll in Plains hex B1 with strike
number 1, rolling: 532424: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex B1: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex B2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 532246165: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex B2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Hater4's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 strikes Troll in Plains hex B1 with strike
number 1, rolling: 241151: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex B1: 6 + 6 => 8; 4 excess
Critter Troll in Plains hex B1 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex B2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 465245266: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex B2: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex B2 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
2 carries available
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex A3: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
2 hits carry to Angel in Plains (1) hex A3
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex A3 strikes Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 with
strike number 2, rolling: 166465: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2: 7 + 5 => 9; 3 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains (1) hex A2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Troll in Plains hex B1 strikes Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 with strike
number 6, rolling: 61435246: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains (1) hex A1: 4 + 2 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Titan in Plains (1) hex A1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Rational1 earns 96.0 points (0.0 + 96.0 => 96.0)
Player 'Hater4' is dying, killed by Rational1
Legion Br04[] is eliminated
Hater4 is dead, telling everyone about it
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 24 left.
Legion Rd10 in Brush hex 102 recruits Gorgon with 2 Cyclopes
Added Ogre - now there are 6 left.
Legion Rd12 in Hills hex 37 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 6
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Rd02
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Plains hex 110 moves to Woods hex 16 entering on
Left
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Desert hex 114 moves to Marsh hex 108 entering on
Left
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Brush hex 116 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 20 left.
Legion Bu12 in Plains hex 110 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Legion Bu12 (Trident) undoes its recruit
Added Centaur - now there are 5 left.
Legion Bu12 in Plains hex 110 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Troll - now there are 19 left.
Legion Bu02 in Marsh hex 108 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Milvang5's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd02 into new legion Gd05
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Plains hex 6 moves to Marsh hex 13 entering on
Right
Legion Gd03 (Coins) in Marsh hex 140 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 5 left.
Legion Gd02 in Marsh hex 13 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Added Cyclops - now there are 17 left.
Legion Gd03 in Jungle hex 135 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Hater2's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Brush hex 127 moves to Abyss hex 26 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk02 (Eye) in Marsh hex 131 moves to Hills hex 32 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Brush hex 123 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 4 left.
Legion Bk02 in Hills hex 32 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Rational3's turn, number 7
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr03 into new legion Gr09
Legion Gr09[Centaur, Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Legion Gr09 recombined into legion Gr03
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr01
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr08 (Harp) in Hills hex 23 moves to Plains hex 29 entering on
Right
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Marsh hex 8 moves to Mountains hex 3000 entering on
Left
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Plains hex 124 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Left
Legion Gr01 (Cauldron) in Marsh hex 8 moves to Mountains hex 1000 entering
on Right
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Bk04 flees from legion Gr03
Rational3 earns 30.0 half-points (0.0 + 30.0 => 30.0)
Legion Bk04[Cyclops, Cyclops, Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Gr03
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 20 left.
Legion Gr06 in Mountains hex 3000 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Rational1's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Jungle hex 104 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Rd12 (Torch) in Hills hex 37 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Legion Rd02 (Eagle) in Plains hex 20 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Minotaur - now there are 20 left.
Legion Rd12 in Hills hex 4 recruits Minotaur with 3 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 16 left.
Legion Rd01 in Brush hex 141 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu02 into new legion Bu10
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Woods hex 16 moves to Abyss hex 19 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on Left
Legion Bu10 (Padlock) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Plains hex 105 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Gd05 flees from legion Bu02
Babbling Balrog earns 12.0 half-points (72.0 + 12.0 => 84.0)
Legion Gd05[Centaur, Ogre] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu02
Phase advances to Muster
Added Druid - now there are 16 left.
Legion Bu05 in Abyss hex 19 recruits Druid with 1 Titan
Added Ranger - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bu02 in Plains hex 6 recruits Ranger with 2 Lions
Milvang5's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Marsh hex 13 moves to Woods hex 16 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 4 left.
Legion Gd02 in Woods hex 16 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Hater2's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk06 (Lightning) in Abyss hex 26 tower teleports (Angel) to Brush
hex 120 entering on Bottom
Legion Bk02 (Eye) in Hills hex 32 moves to Marsh hex 126 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ranger - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bk02 in Marsh hex 126 recruits Ranger with 2 Trolls
Rational3's turn, number 8
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr03 into new legion Gr07
Legion Gr07[Centaur, Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Legion Gr07 recombined into legion Gr03
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Marsh hex 122 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Gr03 (Rational3) attacks Rd02 (Rational1) in Woods hex 25
Angel moves from X2 to F1
Troll moves from X2 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from X5 to C2
Angel moves from X5 to F3
Centaur moves from X5 to F4
Centaur moves from X5 to E3
Lion moves from X5 to E4
Troll moves from X5 to D5
Troll moves from X5 to C4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational1's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from E3 to D2
Angel moves from F3 to E2
Troll moves from C4 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex D2 strikes Troll in Plains hex E1 with strike number
2, rolling: 432: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex E1: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Angel in Plains hex E2 strikes Troll in Plains hex E1 with strike number
2, rolling: 622452: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex E1: 3 + 6 => 8; 1 excess
Critter Troll in Plains hex E1 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex F1 strikes Angel in Plains hex E2 with strike number
4, rolling: 265624: 4 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex E2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Troll in Plains hex E1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex D2 with strike number
6, rolling: 14136652: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex D2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex F1 strikes Angel in Plains hex E2 with strike number
4, rolling: 662261: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex E2: 4 + 3 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Angel in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex F1 with strike number
4, rolling: 454314: 4 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex F1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Rational3's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from D5 to B3
Lion moves from E4 to E2
Centaur moves from F4 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex F1 with strike number 5,
rolling: 14242: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E2 with strike number 3,
rolling: 256552: 4 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E2 with strike number 3,
rolling: 111264: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E2: 4 + 2 => 5; 1 excess
Critter Lion in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex F1 with strike number 5,
rolling: 43416: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex F1: 4 + 1 => 5; 0 excess
Rational3's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from B3 to A2
Centaur moves from E3 to E2
Centaur moves from D2 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex F1 with strike number
4, rolling: 335: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex F1: 5 + 1 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Angel in Plains hex F1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex F1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E1 with strike number
4, rolling: 145113: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E1: 2 + 2 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E1 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
1 carry available
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
1 hit carries to Centaur in Plains hex E2
Rational3 earns 40.0 points (30.0 + 40.0 => 70.0)
Legion Rd02[] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 3 left.
Legion Gr03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Rational1's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 3 for movement
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Gr03
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Brush hex 141 moves to Swamp hex 42 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd12 (Torch) in Hills hex 4 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Brush hex 102 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 23 left.
Legion Rd10 in Brush hex 141 recruits Gorgon with 1 Gorgon
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Abyss hex 19 moves to Brush hex 120 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bu02 (Bat) in Plains hex 6 moves to Desert hex 107 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Bu05 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Bk06 (Hater2) in Brush hex 120
Centaur moves from X0 to E4
Angel moves from X0 to D5
Troll moves from X0 to E5
Centaur moves from X0 to C5
Troll moves from X0 to D6
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from X3 to F2
Gargoyle moves from X3 to D3
Druid moves from X3 to E2
Druid moves from X3 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Druid in Brambles hex F1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 6: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Druid in Brambles hex E2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 1: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Druid in Brambles hex F1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 2: 0 hits
Druid in Brambles hex E2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 1: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater2's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from D3 to E3
Druid moves from E2 to D3
Druid moves from F1 to E2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2265: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Druid in Brambles hex E2 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 3: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Druid in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 5: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D5: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 421: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 4
One Angel is summoned from legion Bu02 into legion Bu05
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X3 to B4
Gargoyle moves from E3 to F1
Druid moves from E2 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex B4 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C5 with strike number
4, rolling: 645342: 4 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5: 0 + 4 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Druid in Brambles hex E3 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 6: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D5: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Druid in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 2: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex C5 strikes Angel in Plains hex B4 with strike number
4, rolling: 443: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex B4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from D5 to D4
Troll moves from E5 to E4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex E4 strikes Druid in Brambles hex E3 with strike number
6, rolling: 56216532: 2 hits
Critter Druid in Brambles hex E3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Angel in Brambles hex D4 strikes Druid in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 621661: 3 hits
Critter Druid in Brambles hex E3: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Druid in Brambles hex E3 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
2 carries available
Critter Druid in Brambles (1) hex D3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
2 hits carry to Druid in Brambles (1) hex D3
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Druid in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 146: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D4: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Druid in Brambles hex E3 strikes Angel in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 256: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D4: 5 + 2 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Angel in Brambles hex D4 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
1 carry available
Critter Troll in Plains hex E4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
1 hit carries to Troll in Plains hex E4
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from B4 to C5
Druid moves from D3 to B4
Titan moves from F2 to B1
Gargoyle moves from F1 to C1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex C5 strikes Troll in Brambles hex D6 with strike number
2, rolling: 112663: 4 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles hex D6: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Druid in Plains hex B4 strikes Troll in Plains hex E4 with strike number
1, rolling: 3: 1 hit
Critter Troll in Plains hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Brambles hex D6 strikes Angel in Plains hex C5 with strike number
6, rolling: 65562342: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex C5: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 6
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from E4 to E5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Brambles hex D6 strikes Angel in Plains hex C5 with strike number
6, rolling: 63314453: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex C5: 4 + 1 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex C5 strikes Troll in Brambles hex D6 with strike number
2, rolling: 551654: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles hex D6: 4 + 5 => 8; 1 excess
Critter Troll in Brambles hex D6 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 6
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from B1 to C3
Angel moves from C5 to A2
Druid moves from B4 to B3
Gargoyle moves from C1 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Druid in Plains hex B3 strikes Troll in Plains hex E5 with strike number
1, rolling: 6: 1 hit
Critter Troll in Plains hex E5: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater2's battle turn, number 7
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from E5 to D5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 7
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from C3 to E5
Gargoyle moves from D3 to D4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains hex E5 strikes Troll in Brambles hex D5 with strike number
1, rolling: 144251: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles hex D5: 3 + 6 => 8; 1 excess
Critter Troll in Brambles hex D5 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Brambles hex D5 strikes Titan in Plains hex E5 with strike number
6, rolling: 45541443: 0 hits
Babbling Balrog earns 80.0 points (84.0 + 80.0 => 164.0)
Legion Bk06[] is eliminated
Legion Bu05 (Egg) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 15 left.
Legion Bu05 (Egg) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gargoyle - now there are 8 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 120 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Added Griffon - now there are 17 left.
Legion Bu02 in Desert hex 107 recruits Griffon with 3 Lions
Milvang5's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd02 into new legion Gd05
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gd05 (Horn) in Woods hex 16 moves to Desert hex 21 entering on
Left
Legion Gd03 (Coins) in Jungle hex 135 moves to Brush hex 134 entering on
Left
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Woods hex 16 moves to Brush hex 17 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 15 left.
Legion Gd03 in Brush hex 134 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Hater2's turn, number 9
3 creatures are split off from legion Bk02 into new legion Bk06
Legion Bk06[Ogre, Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Bk06 recombined into legion Bk02
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bk08 (Rose) in Desert hex 125 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Woods hex 25 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Mountains hex 3000 moves to Brush hex 17 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gr08 (Harp) in Plains hex 29 moves to Tundra hex 2000 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Gr06 (Rational3) attacks Gd02 (Milvang5) in Brush hex 17
Ogre moves from X0 to E5
Angel moves from X0 to D5
Lion moves from X0 to E4
Centaur moves from X0 to C5
Lion moves from X0 to D6
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from X3 to A2
Titan moves from X3 to A1
Cyclops moves from X3 to C2
Lion moves from X3 to B2
Gargoyle moves from X3 to C3
Gargoyle moves from X3 to B3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Milvang5's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from D5 to B1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex B1 strikes Titan in Brambles hex A1 with strike number
5, rolling: 542566: 4 hits
Critter Titan in Brambles hex A1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Brambles hex A1 strikes Angel in Plains hex B1 with strike number
4, rolling: 264254: 4 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex B1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Cyclops in Brambles hex C2 strikes Angel in Plains hex B1 with strike
number 6, rolling: 666425465: 4 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex B1: 4 + 4 => 6; 2 excess
Critter Angel in Plains hex B1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Rational3's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from C2 to B1
Lion moves from A2 to B4
Gargoyle moves from C3 to C4
Gargoyle moves from B3 to D4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex B4 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C5 with strike number
5, rolling: 26413: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex C4 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C5 with strike
number 5, rolling: 3632: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 strikes Lion in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 6146: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 11512: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex C5 strikes Lion in Plains hex B4 with strike number
3, rolling: 415: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex B4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Ogre moves from E5 to D5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 41341: 0 hits
Centaur in Plains hex C5 strikes Lion in Plains hex B4 with strike number
3, rolling: 416: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex B4: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
Ogre in Brambles hex D5 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 6, rolling: 551223: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex B4 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C5 with strike number
5, rolling: 14421: 0 hits
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 strikes Lion in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 6552: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E4: 3 + 3 => 5; 1 excess
Critter Lion in Plains hex E4 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
1 carry available
Critter Ogre in Brambles hex D5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
1 hit carries to Ogre in Brambles hex D5
Gargoyle in Brambles hex C4 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C5 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2152: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C5 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Rational3's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from B4 to A2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles hex C4 strikes Ogre in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 5442: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Brambles hex D5: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 strikes Ogre in Brambles hex D5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 1443: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Brambles hex D5: 4 + 3 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Ogre in Brambles hex D5 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Brambles hex D5 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4 with strike
number 6, rolling: 622144: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from D4 to D5
Gargoyle moves from C4 to E5
Lion moves from B2 to C5
Lion moves from A2 to B4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex C5 strikes Lion in Brambles hex D6 with strike number
4, rolling: 36552: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Brambles hex D6: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Plains hex E5 strikes Lion in Brambles hex D6 with strike
number 4, rolling: 4241: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Brambles hex D6: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Lion in Brambles hex D6 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Brambles hex D6 strikes Lion in Plains hex C5 with strike number
5, rolling: 45213: 1 hit
Critter Lion in Plains hex C5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Rational3 earns 78.0 points (70.0 + 78.0 => 148.0)
Legion Gd02[] is eliminated
Legion Gr06 (Frog) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 15 left.
Legion Gr06 (Frog) acquired one Angel
Gr03 (Rational3) attacks Bk08 (Hater2) in Marsh hex 122
Centaur moves from X2 to F2
Centaur moves from X2 to E2
Cyclops moves from X2 to E1
Cyclops moves from X2 to C1
Titan moves from X2 to D1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Gr06
Troll moves from X5 to A2
Centaur moves from X5 to C2
Troll moves from X5 to B3
Centaur moves from X5 to E3
Centaur moves from X5 to F3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex F3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex F2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 123: 0 hits
Centaur in Plains hex C2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex C1 with strike
number 2, rolling: 322: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex C1: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex F2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 341: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Plains hex C1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 161222163: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex E2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 351: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex F2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex F3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 254: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Cyclops in Plains hex C1 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 646163242: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C2: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C2 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Plains hex E2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 214: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E3: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex F2 strikes Centaur in Plains hex F3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 664: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F3: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F3 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
2 carries available
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E3: 2 + 2 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E3 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
1 hit carries to Centaur in Plains hex E3
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex F3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex F2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 562: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F2: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex F2 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Plains hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 524: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex C2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex C1 with strike
number 2, rolling: 225: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex C1: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Rational3's battle turn, number 2
One Angel is summoned from legion Gr06 into legion Gr03
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from A2 to C2
Troll moves from B3 to B1
Angel moves from X5 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex C2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex C1 with strike number
4, rolling: 36356236: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex C1: 6 + 4 => 9; 1 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex C1 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Angel in Plains hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E2 with strike number
4, rolling: 434123: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E2: 2 + 2 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex E3 with strike number
4, rolling: 335: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex C1 strikes Troll in Bog hex B1 with strike number 4,
rolling: 636155454: 7 hits
Critter Troll in Bog hex B1: 0 + 7 => 7; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational3's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from C2 to C1
Troll moves from B1 to D2
Angel moves from E3 to E2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex C1 strikes Titan in Plains hex D1 with strike number
6, rolling: 64525666: 4 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex D1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Angel in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike number
2, rolling: 415164: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Troll in Bog hex D2 strikes Titan in Plains hex D1 with strike number 6,
rolling: 13611443: 1 hit
Critter Titan in Plains hex D1: 4 + 1 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Plains hex E1 strikes Angel in Plains hex E2 with strike number
6, rolling: 335335651: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex E2: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Titan in Plains hex D1 strikes Troll in Plains hex C1 with strike number
1, rolling: 322313: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex C1: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Cyclops in Plains hex E1 strikes Angel in Plains hex E2 with strike number
6, rolling: 526546145: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex E2: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
Titan in Plains hex D1 strikes Troll in Plains hex C1 with strike number
1, rolling: 322226: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex C1: 6 + 6 => 8; 4 excess
Critter Troll in Plains hex C1 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
4 carries available
Critter Troll in Bog hex D2: 7 + 4 => 8; 3 excess
Critter Troll in Bog hex D2 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
1 hit carries to Troll in Bog hex D2
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Plains hex C1 strikes Titan in Plains hex D1 with strike number
6, rolling: 13521215: 0 hits
Angel in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike number
2, rolling: 334362: 6 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 4 + 6 => 9; 1 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Troll in Bog hex D2 strikes Titan in Plains hex D1 with strike number 6,
rolling: 63423165: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex D1: 5 + 2 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Titan in Plains hex D1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Rational3 earns 90.0 points (148.0 + 90.0 => 238.0)
Player 'Hater2' is dying, killed by Rational3
Legion Bk08[] is eliminated
Rational3 earns 42.0 half-points (238.0 + 42.0 => 280.0)
Legion Bk02[Ranger, Troll, Troll, Ogre, Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Hater2 is dead, telling everyone about it
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 14 left.
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) acquired one Angel
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 14 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 17 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational1's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd10 into new legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Gr03
Legion Rd12 (Torch) in Plains hex 101 moves to Desert hex 7 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Swamp hex 42 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Legion Rd10 (Star) in Brush hex 141 moves to Brush hex 3 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Brush hex 141 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
No legion with markerId 'Rd09' (for player Rational1)
Phase advances to Fight

++++++
SCT SocketClientThread Client Babbling Balrog, parseLine(): got Exception
java.lang.NullPointerException
null
line=didMove ~ Rd09 ~ 141 ~ ...
 
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Category: AI
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Game hangs when AI titan killed by AI

Initial Comment:
I'd killed an AI titan already and the game didn't hang. When an AI (non-titan group) killed an AI titan the game hung on the dead titan's strikeback phase. Both were Rational AI. Playing Abyssal6.

c_...@ya...

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 22:02

Message:


Yes, this happens in the current public build; it is really buggy.
(this particular bug is the more likely to strike, the more legions
the slain player has. E.g. an AI with 40 legions, it happens easily.
Except on my own computer, there never )-:


But also this is (so I hope) fixed already, we just haven't made a new 
public build yet - coming soon.

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens


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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-08-26 00:11

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It was a 5 player game:

1) Human (me)
2) Rational AI - dead previously - killed by me
3) Rational AI - alive - not in the fight
4) Rational AI - alive - in the fight, just killed Rational AI #5
5) Rational AI - dead - just killed in the fight by Rational AI #4

I can get you the log and/or turn on debug logging in case it happens
again, but you'd have to tell me where the log is and how to turn on extra
logging information. I haven't run the game since it hung, so whatever
state was maintained when I exited the board will remain. (To end that
session I clicked the 'X' in the upper right of the window to close the
game and then selected 'Close the board' and then exited the app.

There were no popups. The 'done' button in the battle board UI was
disabled. The 'Phase | Done' menu item did nothing (but was not disabled).
The phase was stuck on "brown strikeback" -- brown being the recently
deceased. I could find no way to proceed without exiting the game.

cl

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-08-25 09:52

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Hi,

were you as human player still alive then?

I noticed that there is a problem in some case: when AIs fight to the end,

when the Titan is killed, the game does not update the Game status window,

so it looks like there would still be 2 or more players alive, 
and the "XXX wins" is not displayed; 
but if one looks in the log, there is (perhaps 6-8.-last message) the "xxx
wins!" log entry.

Can you verify whether this is there / confirm you were still alive,
and the last battle was NOT a Titan-vs-Titan battle?

---

I've let the game run 100+ rounds of stresstest (all players AI against
each other)
and none of them did hang... they do autoquit when "xxx wins" is reached,
but the 
message does not reach the client to be displayed there.)

BR,

Clemens


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Category: Documentation
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 3
Private: No
Submitted By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Variant READMEs should mention the "tower-type" lands

Initial Comment:

Several variants have lands which are "Tower-like", e.g. Abyss, Mantio, Hellmouth, Circle.

This means that

1) defender can place his battle chits only to a certain set of 7 hexes on entering the battle map (for tower and abyss and so on it's easy to recognize, its inside the walls), but same applies for Circle and there it's on first glance confusing why creature can go only to certain hexes and others not.

2) Those lands enable Tower-teleport for Lords. So, any legion which has a lord, like: Titan, Angel, Archangel;
* In Beelzebub (Hellmouth, Circle) also Devil, Archdevil, Death, Beelzebub;
* In Pantheon (Mantio) the Pantheon Gods
* In BeelzeGods12 all of the above) 

Any such legion, on rolling a 6 can teleport from there -- just as Tower Teleport for the two startup legions in the tower on rolling a 6 in first round.

So, the README files for the different variants should mention that fact, and perhaps on some general page / FAQ explain the whole things as above ?

-Clemens


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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 22:00

Message:
Actually the reality is different. In fact there is two properties
"is tower" and "has startlist", and in the code for checking whether
it is allowed to teleport it uses the wrong one.

I fixed this while ago (so that now it really allows it from "is tower"
type lands, I think this is really only lands called "Tower".

Not in public build yet (but one will come soon, I hope).

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
this and most of the otehr recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 23:11

Message:

I was actually considering to mark the entry hexes in battle map preview
somehow pink bordered or something...

> That said, I'd love the option of turning off Tower teleportation on
>"tower-like" lands.

there is an option to prohibit tower teleport in general.

And as I said, for most lands that it allows tower teleport is a bug:
most of them just have start list, and the check for whether tt is
allowed
checks that, instead it should check for "isTower()". 

And then, basically no other land except really "Tower" would enable tower
teleport:

bash-3.00$ grep -i 'tower="true"' */*/*.xml
Abyssal6/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True">
Badlands-JDG/Battlelands/TowerAlt.xml:<battlemap terrain="TowerAlt"
tower="True">
Default/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True">
Pantheon/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True">
TG-ConceptI/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True"
subtitle="Two Towers">
TG-ConceptII/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True"
subtitle="Broadside">
TG-ConceptIII/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower"
tower="True" subtitle="The great wall">
TG-SetII/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True">
TG-Wild/Battlelands/Tower.xml:<battlemap terrain="Tower" tower="True"
subtitle="Ziggurat">
bash-3.00$

I would consider adding the "is tower" attribute to *some* land types,
e.g. those which
are really tower-shaped (or anti-tower shaped), e.g. Abyss and Mantio.

Clemens




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Comment By: Dranathi (dranathi)
Date: 2008-09-16 22:44

Message:
Perhaps we could also add the list of starting hexes to the
BattleTerrainHazardWindow?  

I do recall being surprised the first time I saw a tower teleportation in
the Abyss.    

That said, I'd love the option of turning off Tower teleportation on
"tower-like" lands.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 10:34

Message:

Looked into the sources. Actually there is two attributes:

"has_startlist" and "is_tower". I think the former should affect whether
creatures start at special place and the latter whether it is a tower,
and as such plays a special role in tower teleport.

Right now the checking for valid movements is (IMHO) buggy:
it allows as possible starting "towers" anything which has
a startlist, but as destination in terms of "any vacant tower"
it looks for the "is_tower" attribute.


Besides, if "disallow tower to tower" is selected, it removes empty 
towers from the list of possible hexes, should they be there in 
some variant where another tower is near enough to be reached within 6
hexes.
I think that is not logical....


So we need to decide whether to fix it that for teleport issues only the
is_tower attribute is relevant - then quite a number of lands in several
variants will not allow tower teleport any more. E.g,. Abyss, Mantio,
Hellmouth, Circle...


-Clemens




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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Wont Fix
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Great error message.

Initial Comment:
So the game hung with a battle mat open (see other bug report). So I started a new game, but the battle mat still didn't close when the game setup dialogue box opened. So I thought, I'll just close the battle mat and carry on. Well, I clicked on the X in the upper right corner and tried quit, nothing, tried close, nothing, so I tried something else and then got this interesting error message:

Arggh!! Seems the standard Quit procedure does not work. Doing System.exit() now the hard way. 

OK

This was such a great error message I had to post it.

After clicking OK the game shut down, including the new game setup dialogue. 

Oh well, I just start a new game.

The Aug 22 build seems to have introduced a lot of bugs.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 21:57

Message:


Yes, this happens in the current public build; but as I tried to 
explain, this message is not a bug, it's a feature ;-)

The upcoming public build (hopefully soon) would have that 
message too, but it also does the System.exit() by itself,
10 seconds after you clicked Quit, if the Game has not shutdown
and JVM terminted "cleanly" by itself.

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-07 08:27

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Yeah, it's a nice message, isn't it?

Whatever it is worth, here what it means:

Earlier (2 or 3 public builds ago), upon starting a new game, Colossus did
not clean up much of the current game - threads did stay running, thus all
the memory they referenced kept used; it just created more objects and more
threads. So with every new game inside an once started Colossus
application, the used memory grew and grew.
When user did Quit, it just did "System.exit()" - tell the Java Virtual
machine to exit no matter what.
And, for multiboard games (hot seat), if one player was dead, you still
could not close his masterboard - doing so, the whole Colossus application
terminated - game gone.

I rewrote that to the following: 
When user selects new or load or quit, it stores somehwere what to do
next, and then initiated a clean shutdown phase. The client which owns the
board where you used the menu, did send a message to the server, so that
that one initiated the shutdown. It informed all clients to go down, close
their boards (if there were, e.g. hot seat games), then theu close their
sockets, and exit their "wait until something comes from server" loop. Out
of their loop, those threads cede to exist.
The server thread did some more cleanup, closed it's own sockets (play &
file serving), freed some static variables, and exited it's loop. 
This made him return to it's main loop, where it found what next to do:
new, load, or quit.
On load or new, it would do now same way, and basically same preconditions
as if done fresh after game start; for quit, it would just quit it's own
main loop and cease to exist.
No user thread running any more, the Java Virtual Machine would peacefully
just terminate itself. No System.exit() needed at all. I consider this to
be a clean exit, and a good thing.

And when in a hot seat game one board does "close", it can cleanly close,
leave the rest of game intact; if this is the last board, the server will
do same as if one did "new game" - back to the game setup.

Now, the message above: You say on client side once you want to exit. It
sets a flag for that, and then initiates the "normal" shutdown as said
above. As you noticed, this clean shutdown depends on the fact, that client
can still send to and receive from server. If somewhat later you have
opportunity to use this menu option again, it implies, the first attempt
failed - it sees you tried it because the flag is set. Not much use to try
again, is there? So, you want quit, clean way does not work, so it does it
the hard way, just as earlier. But it tells about it. Well mostly this
message was for me, when I implemented and made this working nicely, and,
under normal circumstances, the standard user is not supposed to see it.

Yes, then it kicks you totally out, have to start Colossus again. As
earlier. Without that (e.g. if started via web start), would have to go for
task list or ps -ef on unix cmdline, find which java ws process it might
be, and kill it with tasks manager or kill command.
(otherwise it stays running, using memory and perhaps blocking the port.
Wouldn't do good to anyone, now would it?).

And I think, this was working well when I committed it. Didn't get that
for a long time...

Around that time, Peter initiated some architectural cleanup, re-using
code from server on client side instead of duplicating, work more straight
with objects instead of everywhere lookup by markerId, for() instead of
iterators, which lead to eventually change to Java 1.5, and some more.
A good goal, but risky...

Especially this "instead of always lookup by ID" has broken many things; I
have fixed quite a number of those in recent months (the load game problem
is caused by it too), but it seems there are still some left. Now, if such
lookup problems occur, it might lead to exceptions which throw the client
thread out of it's read loop - and then the client-server communication is
broken.

((ah, and one thing: this clean shutodwn is also needed, and in fact I
started it due to it, because of the "Web Client" thing. I wanted it to be
possible to discard the current game and clean board and all, but the web
client stays up. i.e. had to get rid off all the system.exit().
*Sigh*, noone is using WebServer and WebClient since we don't run a
server, but perhaps one day... ))

I hope someone agrees with me that this exit procedure is an improvement
against the old way...

-Clemens


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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 9
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Game hangs when AI Titan killed

Initial Comment:
This has happened in Default, Abyssal3, Unified, and possibly other variants, with MilvangAI and RationalAI.
When an AI Titan stack attacks and the Titan is killed, the combat hangs.  The remaining surviving units in the attacking stack remain on the combat board, and the losing player's stacks are not removed from the board, although they no longer display a unit count.  Units still appear in the inspector window if you mouse over any of the losing player's stacks, including the doomed attacking stack.

In one case I used the Phase -> Force Done menu item in the combat land menu to force the game to continue.  The game crashed or hung again a short time later.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 21:55

Message:

Yes, this happens in the current public build; it is really buggy.

But it was fixed already while ago we just haven't made a new 
public build yet - coming soon.

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 10:35

Message:
Raising priority.


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-06 11:17

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What would be even more helpful would be a saved game file from shortly
before the hang - sooo...

Since you can't save after it hangs, only way is to save all the time.
There is "Autosave" in the game startup menu. Simple... if you don't mind
having several hundred save files created ;-)

If you do mind, there is a cure, but it's not in the GUI. You can place a
certain line in the Colossus-server.cfg file which tells how many those
file may max. created during one game. OK, where is the cfg file... In
Help=>About there it tells is user.home and Colossus-home (just .colossus
under the user.home).  

In this Colossus-home are several Colossus-<somename>.cfg files.
<somename> = server is the global config file, holding all the settings
from the Game startup menu. (Tip: if there are many cf files, the -server
is usually one of the most recent modified ones). All the other files are
from the different players, so there will be - beside the name you choose -
"Blue", "Red", ... "Simple1", "Simple4" etc. - depending whether you use
"name by type" or "name by color" - that's obvious, I guess...

Into this -server.cfg file, add a line (does not matter where) like this:

Max\ autosave\ files=10

Note the backslashes before the spaces. 

The autosave files are in the directory "saves" in the Colossus home
directory as told above.

With that setting, when creating the 11th file, the first one is deleted
again. For each game will remain 10 files. So every then and now should
clean the directory anyway. But it's much better than having hundreds
(during my stresstest rounds, and before I made this cfg file options,
occasionally I had to delete 3000-5000 files there... Not fun with Explorer
for an impatient guy as me. And even Cygwin bash gets in trouble with rm
*.xml ... too long commandline eventually *g*  ;-)


Okay, if you could provide the few lastest autosave files before a hang
would be cool.

Attaching them here might be tricky, so you can send them directly to me
by mail.

-Clemens




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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-06 11:01

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I've done fixes to the cleanup at game over, and added server-to-client
flow control (I suspect that in some cases messages got dropped because
server sends them too quickly).
Could you use the latest "Public Testing Build"? It is available on the
our wiki page: 

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/ExperimentalBuilds

Don't be frightened by the word "experimental" ... ;-)

----

Which files I need:

Mostly interested I would be in the Colossus<x>.log files, x being 0, 1
and 2. Colossus0.log is always the newest. A long game may span over more
than one file, so it's best to send me all three files. In MasterBoard
Help=>About I have now finally added that it tells you what is on your
computer the Temp directory it uses. (Be aware, on windows: in my computer
this is under some Local Settings directory which Explorer by default does
NOT show. But if you type the path to the address line it goes there, or
with a cmd prompt window cd command works also...).

Java console additionally is helpful, exceptions are only shown there :-(

-Clemens


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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-06 09:46

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* The defeated player turns red in the player status window.
* The problem arises both when the defeated player was the attacker and
when he was the defender.
* It does not *always* arise.  I was able to finish a game just now where
two AI players eliminated each other and the game didn't hang until I
defeated the last AI.  This was the first time this week I was able to play
a game to completion though.

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-06 09:43

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* None of these occurrences is from a saved game.
* My original report is wrong in that the loser's stacks cannot be
inspected on the main board; I was mistaking the recruitment options for
stack contents in the inspector.  All that remains is the legion markers. 
The surviving creatures from the defeated side *do* remain on the battle
board though.
* The Save Game function does not work after the game has hung in this
fashion.
* If the combat leads to game over status then there is not a problem as
the game has been played to completion.  I can live without the "Game
Over!" message.  The real problem arises when the defeat does not lead to
the game being over.
* Do you want the Java Console contents, or the game log window, or both? 
I will try to capture both for you.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-05 21:59

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1) Is it possible that you saved and loaded later to continue? I know that
this could cause such effects (and have fixed that now).

2) Can you provide log file and/or saved file? 

Without that, I don't see any chance to fix anything, because I've let the
computer run literally hundreds of AI-only (or: AIs + one human in
autoplay) games and this situation never happened.

What I know what happens is, if the kill leads to Game over state (and if
one has autoplay on, then one does not get the Game Over message), things
might not get cleaned up properly, status window still shows them as alive
and possibly even a player which is actually dead is yellow as being the
active player now... so it looks it hangs but in fact game would be over
(in recent changes I made it *clear* to see that it is really over).

But well, for that change you have to wait to next public build, or use
the Test Build from wiki page...

-Clemens


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Bugs item #2113621, was opened at 2008-09-16 10:14
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Assigned to: David Ripton (dripton)
Summary: Major battlemap bugs that end gameplay

Initial Comment:
I know, I know, it's already been reported - But I would like to point out that sadly, ever since the latest build based on Java 1.5+ was introduced, the 'armies remain on the battlemap', 'battlemap does not close' or the 'battle freezes' bug have resulted in about 95% of all games ending prematurely (yes, I've been keeping a record of this lately) - so, in essence, I can no longer play this wonderful game. I therefore would suggest the priority of the aforementioned bugs to be raised from 5/6 to 8 or 9, because these are serious bugs that make the game virtually unplayable.

Wish I could fix it myself, but I'm not a programmer - so I'm counting on you!

Cheers
Mark (mar...@ya...)

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 21:55

Message:

I agree as well, and additionally for me a Sprite. 
(A real one, not Sprite Zero which tastes like ...)

But, to the facts:

Yes, this is true; the current public build is really buggy.

But many things are fixed already in repository but we just haven't 
made a new  public build yet - coming soon.

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens


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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-09-24 13:56

Message:
I agree with all that was said and a bag of chips

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Bugs item #2090150, was opened at 2008-09-03 04:58
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
>Resolution: Fixed
Priority: 9
Private: No
Submitted By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Stack Counter left after a battle

Initial Comment:
Stack counter remains on the board with no units. Stack counter blocks movement. Can't resolve the battle. Only option is to use the new Force Done on the menu. That option doesn't always work. Next turn can move unit off the stack counter if the game isn't hung. 

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 21:53

Message:

Yes, this happens in the current public build; it is really buggy.

But it was fixed already while ago we just haven't made a new 
public build yet - coming soon.

Meanwhile, you could use the "Public Testing Build" - in that one
most of the recent serious bugs are (should be) corrected:

http://colossus.wiki.sourceforge.net/PublicTestingBuild

-Clemens






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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-10-09 19:05

Message:
I've had this occur as well.  The legion marker for the dead legion will
remain on the map and will never move again.  But any legions that enter
the area it occupies are forced to stop and fight the non-existant legion.

I also had a game where when the Titan was killed all of the legion
markers for that Titan remain on the Masterboard and interfere with
movement with an unresolveable combat.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 10:28

Message:
Raising priority.


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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 06:50

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Sorry, log window was closed. Here is the saved game.
File Added: zerostackengaged.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 06:48

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New game. Human vs 5 AI. Blue's turn. Green 7 stack engagement with Brown
0 stack in Tower. Message for Blue : Resolve Engagements. Can use Force
Done to make the game proceed. On Green's turn he will be able to move the
stack out of the tower, maybe.

Here is the log. I'll upload the image of the board and the saved game at
that point.
File Added: emptystack.JPG

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 04:14

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File Added: zerostackwithsplitlegion.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:56

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Opps, that was a zero stack for brown not gold as per the image file name.
I've saved this game and will upload it next.
File Added: zerostack.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:50

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Here is the game log from the new game I am playing right now. Taken at
the same time as I sent the images. I don't save and reload any games. I
play them straight through. Also re: "Next turn can move unit off the stack
counter if the game isn't hung." What I meant was that the following turn I
can move my normal stack off the other AI player's zero size stack. 

Babbling Balrog chooses color Blue
Setting for "<By type>5" new name: Milvang5
Milvang5 chooses color Red
Setting for "<By type>3" new name: Rational3
Rational3 chooses color Gold
Setting for "<By type>1" new name: Rational1
Rational1 chooses color Black
Setting for "<By type>4" new name: Hater4
Hater4 chooses color Green
Setting for "<By type>2" new name: Hater2
Hater2 chooses color Brown
Hater2 selects initial marker
Hater4 selects initial marker
Babbling Balrog selects initial marker
Rational1 selects initial marker
Rational3 selects initial marker
Milvang5 selects initial marker
4 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Tower hex 600 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Tower hex 600 moves to Plains hex 133 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 12 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 133 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Troll - now there are 27 left.
Legion Br03 in Marsh hex 41 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Hater4's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr06
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Tower hex 500 moves to Plains hex 29 entering on
Right
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Tower hex 500 moves to Brush hex 127 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 11 left.
Legion Gr04 in Plains hex 29 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Cyclops - now there are 27 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 127 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu03
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Tower hex 400 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Tower hex 400 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bu03 in Marsh hex 122 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 24 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational1's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Bk03 into new legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Tower hex 300 tower teleports (Titan) to Tower hex
600 entering on Bottom
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Tower hex 300 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 110 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Warlock - now there are 5 left.
Legion Bk05 in Tower hex 600 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Rational3's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gd10 into new legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 5 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan
Rational3 rolls a 3 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan and rolls 3
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Tower hex 200 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Tower hex 200 moves to Marsh hex 8 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 12 left.
Legion Gd10 in Marsh hex 8 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Added Cyclops - now there are 25 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 106 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Milvang5's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan and rolls 1
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Tower hex 100 moves to Brush hex 3 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 100 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gargoyle - now there are 8 left.
Legion Rd01 in Brush hex 3 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Added Lion - now there are 26 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 101 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Plains hex 133 moves to Marsh hex 131 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 10 left.
Legion Br03 in Plains hex 1 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Hater4's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Plains hex 29 moves to Tundra hex 4000 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Brush hex 127 moves to Brush hex 31 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 31 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 24 moves to Jungle hex 121 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Marsh hex 122 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bu03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Cyclops - now there are 23 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 121 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational1's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Plains hex 110 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 106 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Marsh hex 8 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Brush hex 3 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Plains hex 101 moves to Tower hex 100 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 11 left.
Legion Rd01 in Hills hex 4 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Added Warlock - now there are 4 left.
Legion Rd09 in Tower hex 100 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Hater2's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Marsh hex 131 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Plains hex 1 moves to Tundra hex 6000 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 25 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Troll - now there are 25 left.
Legion Br03 in Tundra hex 6000 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Hater4's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Brush hex 31 moves to Marsh hex 27 entering on Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Tundra hex 4000 moves to Hills hex 23 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 10 left.
Legion Gr04 in Hills hex 23 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 121 moves to Marsh hex 117 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Woods hex 25 moves to Jungle hex 121 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational1's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Plains hex 15 entering on
Right
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Tower hex 600 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 24 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 15 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Cyclops - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bk05 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational3's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Brush hex 10 moves to Marsh hex 108 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Plains hex 6 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gd10 in Marsh hex 108 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 10 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Milvang5's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 100 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Hills hex 4 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 23 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 1 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br02
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br09
Legion Br09[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Br09 recombined into legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Plains hex 129 moves to Brush hex 31 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 20 left.
Legion Br01 in Brush hex 31 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Hater4's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Woods hex 30 entering on Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Hills hex 23 moves to Abyss hex 26 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 8 left.
Legion Gr06 in Woods hex 30 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Marsh hex 117 moves to Jungle hex 111 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Jungle hex 121 moves to Plains hex 115 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bu03 in Plains hex 115 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Cyclops - now there are 19 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 111 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational1's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk03 into new legion Bk04
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Plains hex 15 moves to Desert hex 21 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Brush hex 38 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 21 left.
Legion Bk03 in Desert hex 21 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Added Cyclops - now there are 18 left.
Legion Bk05 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational3's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd10 into new legion Gd02
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 10 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 23 left.
Legion Gd10 in Swamp hex 14 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Added Gorgon - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 10 recruits Gorgon with 2 Cyclopes
Milvang5's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd11
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 1 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Plains hex 1 moves to Mountains hex 5000 entering
on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Minotaur - now there are 20 left.
Legion Rd09 in Mountains hex 5000 recruits Minotaur with 2 Lions
Added Lion - now there are 20 left.
Legion Rd11 in Plains hex 6 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br07
Legion Br07[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Br07 recombined into legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Tundra hex 6000 moves to Hills hex 37 entering on
Left
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Plains hex 129 moves to Marsh hex 27 entering on
Left
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Brush hex 31 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 19 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater4's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr11
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Abyss hex 26 moves to Plains hex 124 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Woods hex 30 moves to Plains hex 34 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 18 left.
Legion Gr04 in Plains hex 124 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Lion - now there are 17 left.
Legion Gr06 in Plains hex 34 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu12
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu03 into new legion Bu10
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Plains hex 115 moves to Desert hex 114 entering on
Right
Legion Bu10 (Padlock) in Plains hex 115 moves to Tower hex 300 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 7 left.
Legion Bu05 in Plains hex 110 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Ogre - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bu10 in Tower hex 300 recruits Ogre with nothing
Added Lion - now there are 16 left.
Legion Bu03 in Desert hex 114 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Rational1's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk12
Legion Bk12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk12 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Brush hex 38 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Plains hex 15 moves to Hills hex 18 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd01
Legion Gd01[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd01 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 6 moves to Plains hex 105 entering on
Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Plains hex 101 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 15 left.
Legion Rd11 in Plains hex 105 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br11
Legion Br11[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br11 recombined into legion Br01
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br09
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br09 (Scroll) in Hills hex 37 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 8 left.
Legion Br09 in Hills hex 4 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Hater4's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr03
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Plains hex 124 moves to Swamp hex 118 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Plains hex 110 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Desert hex 107 entering
on Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Desert hex 114 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 23 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 106 recruits Gorgon with 2 Cyclopes
Added Lion - now there are 14 left.
Legion Bu03 in Plains hex 110 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Rational1's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk11
Legion Bk11[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk11 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd05
Legion Gd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd05 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 10 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 105 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Gd02 flees from legion Rd11
Milvang5 earns 12.0 half-points (0.0 + 12.0 => 12.0)
Legion Gd02[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Rd11
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br07
Legion Br07[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br07 recombined into legion Br01
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Hills hex 37 moves to Swamp hex 42 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 22 left.
Legion Br03 in Swamp hex 42 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Hater4's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr11 (Scales) in Woods hex 30 moves to Marsh hex 36 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu06
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 106 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Plains hex 110 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Rd11 flees from legion Bu05
Babbling Balrog earns 27.0 half-points (0.0 + 27.0 => 27.0)
Legion Rd11[Lion, Lion, Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Bu03 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Gd10 (Rational3) in Abyss hex 12
Angel moves from X0 to D5
Troll moves from X0 to C4
Troll moves from X0 to E3
Centaur moves from X0 to E4
Centaur moves from X0 to D4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex D5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Angel in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X3 to F2
Troll moves from X3 to B2
Lion moves from X3 to B3
Centaur moves from X3 to B4
Lion moves from X3 to E2
Lion moves from X3 to A3
Centaur moves from X3 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex D5: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Angel in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Angel in Tower (2) hex F2 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 with strike
number 1, rolling: 515222: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 15612: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Lion in Tower (2) hex E2 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 34143: 4 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3: 6 + 4 => 8; 2 excess
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Centaur in Tower (2) hex B4 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 1, rolling: 454: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 53546664: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex F2: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 23554313: 0 hits
Rational3's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from E4 to D6
Angel moves from D5 to E5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 34661551: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex B3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 62462: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 6 + 5 => 8; 3 excess
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from F2 to D2
Centaur moves from F1 to F4
Centaur moves from B4 to C5
Lion moves from A3 to B4
Lion moves from B3 to A3
Troll moves from B2 to B3
Lion moves from E2 to F3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 4, rolling: 312: 0 hits
Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 with strike
number 4, rolling: 565: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 125664: 4 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4: 0 + 4 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 with
strike number 4, rolling: 546: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Rational3's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from B4 to C5
Lion moves from F3 to F4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Tower (2) hex F4 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 with strike
number 5, rolling: 62523: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5: 5 + 2 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with strike
number 5, rolling: 33433: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex F4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 661661: 4 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex F4: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 546: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Rational3's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 134: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with strike
number 5, rolling: 63233: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Babbling Balrog earns 80.0 points (27.0 + 80.0 => 107.0)
Legion Gd10[] is eliminated
Legion Bu03 (Candle) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 12 left.
Legion Bu03 (Candle) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu03
Phase advances to Muster
Added Behemoth - now there are 17 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 104 recruits Behemoth with 3 Cyclopes
Rational1's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk12
Legion Bk12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk12 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Hills hex 18 moves to Brush hex 116 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd05
Legion Gd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd05 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Woods hex 16 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Mountains hex 5000 moves to Brush hex 31 entering
on Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Plains hex 138 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 17 left.
Legion Rd01 in Jungle hex 135 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Added Gargoyle - now there are 7 left.
Legion Rd09 in Brush hex 31 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Hater2's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br12
Legion Br12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br12 recombined into legion Br01
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Swamp hex 42 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ranger - now there are 27 left.
Legion Br03 in Marsh hex 41 recruits Ranger with 2 Trolls
Hater4's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr11 (Scales) in Marsh hex 36 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 16 left.
Legion Gr11 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Abyss hex 12 moves to Jungle hex 111 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational1's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk09
Legion Bk09[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk09 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Desert hex 21 moves to Abyss hex 26 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Plains hex 101 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd09
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd09 (Scarab) in Woods hex 16 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Woods hex 16 moves to Plains hex 20 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 15 left.
Legion Gd09 in Brush hex 24 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Milvang5's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd05
Legion Rd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd05 recombined into legion Rd01
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd04
Legion Rd04[Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd04 recombined into legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Brush hex 31 moves to Tower hex 500 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Jungle hex 135 moves to Brush hex 134 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br06
Legion Br06[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br06 recombined into legion Br01
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br10
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Woods hex 30 entering on Left
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Woods hex 2 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 6 left.
Legion Br02 in Woods hex 30 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Centaur - now there are 5 left.
Legion Br10 in Woods hex 2 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Hater4's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Swamp hex 118 moves to Marsh hex 117 entering on
Left
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Plains hex 124 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Plains hex 34 moves to Tower hex 600 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gr04 in Marsh hex 117 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Warlock - now there are 3 left.
Legion Gr06 in Tower hex 600 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Added Centaur - now there are 4 left.
Legion Gr03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 104 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Desert hex 107 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Brush hex 106 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 141 recruits Gorgon with 1 Gorgon
Rational1's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk10
Legion Bk10[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk10 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Brush hex 116 moves to Marsh hex 112 entering on
Right
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Abyss hex 26 moves to Plains hex 124 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ranger - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 124 recruits Ranger with 2 Lions
Rational3's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Plains hex 20 moves to Hills hex 23 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 7 left.
Legion Gd08 in Hills hex 23 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Milvang5's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd05
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd04
Legion Rd04[Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd04 recombined into legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 500 tower teleports (Titan) to Brush hex
130 entering on Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Brush hex 134 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Rd01 (Milvang5) attacks Br01 (Hater2) in Plains hex 129
Lion moves from X2 to C1
Angel moves from X2 to F2
Lion moves from X2 to D3
Cyclops moves from X2 to E2
Gargoyle moves from X2 to F1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Milvang5's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X5 to C3
Cyclops moves from X5 to B3
Ogre moves from X5 to D5
Ogre moves from X5 to C4
Ogre moves from X5 to A3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex C3 strikes Lion in Plains hex D3 with strike number 3,
rolling: 525125: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex D3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C3 with strike number 5,
rolling: 46152: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex C3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from C1 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex D3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C3 with strike number 5,
rolling: 32631: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex C3: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex C3 strikes Lion in Plains hex D3 with strike number 3,
rolling: 514121: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Milvang5's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from C3 to D3
Cyclops moves from B3 to C2
Ogre moves from D5 to F3
Ogre moves from C4 to D4
Ogre moves from A3 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Cyclops in Plains hex C2 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 654434661: 4 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Angel in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike number
2, rolling: 125351: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 343266: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 131343: 4 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex D3 with strike number
6, rolling: 641241116: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 3621: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3: 5 + 1 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Hater2's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 163522: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 4 + 5 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 636651: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from C2 to E3
Ogre moves from D4 to F3
Ogre moves from B2 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 541453: 0 hits
Ogre in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike number
4, rolling: 512366: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 4 + 3 => 7; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 341353222: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 621444: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 135632235: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 5 + 3 => 8; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 4
Added Lion - now there are 13 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from F1 to D2
Lion moves from X2 to D1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 5156: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 331115: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 8 + 3 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
2 carries available
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
2 hits carry to Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D3 with strike number
4, rolling: 416155651: 6 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3: 3 + 6 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 251535: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 166345126: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 5 + 3 => 6; 2 excess
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
2 carries available
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 7 + 2 => 9; 0 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
2 hits carry to Cyclops in Plains hex E2
Ogre in Plains hex D3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 645145: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Ogre moves from F3 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E1 with strike number
5, rolling: 2333441: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex E1 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 with strike number
3, rolling: 41212: 1 hit
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex E1 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 with strike number
3, rolling: 55215: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E1 with strike number
5, rolling: 4566261: 4 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Hater2 earns 78.0 points (0.0 + 78.0 => 78.0)
Legion Rd01[] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Br01
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Woods hex 30 moves to Hills hex 37 entering on Left
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Woods hex 2 moves to Hills hex 9 entering on Left
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Woods hex 2 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater4's turn, number 10
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr08
Legion Gr08[Ogre, Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Gr08 recombined into legion Gr04
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr10
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr10 (Laurel) in Tower hex 600 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Marsh hex 117 moves to Desert hex 21 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 12 left.
Legion Gr04 in Desert hex 21 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 141 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Brush hex 106 moves to Desert hex 7 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Brush hex 102 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Plains hex 101 moves to Marsh hex 140 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Bu05 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Bk05 (Rational1) in Plains hex 138
Titan moves from X2 to F1
Warlock moves from X2 to F2
Cyclops moves from X2 to E2
Cyclops moves from X2 to E1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to C1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D2
Ogre moves from X2 to D1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from X5 to A2
Cyclops moves from X5 to E5
Cyclops moves from X5 to B3
Gorgon moves from X5 to C4
Gorgon moves from X5 to A3
Behemoth moves from X5 to C5
Titan moves from X5 to B4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational1's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from C1 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E5 with strike
number 2, rolling: 51: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from E5 to F4
Cyclops moves from B3 to D4
Cyclops moves from A2 to C3
Gorgon moves from C4 to E4
Gorgon undoes move and returns to Plains hex C4
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains (1) hex A2
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains hex B3
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains hex E5
Cyclops moves from E5 to E4
Gorgon moves from C4 to F4
Cyclops moves from B3 to D4
Cyclops moves from A2 to C3
Gorgon moves from A3 to A1
Titan moves from B4 to A2
Behemoth moves from C5 to B3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F4 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 321: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex D4 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 542113424: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 533544361: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex D4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 1451: 2 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex D4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 31: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from E4 to E3
Cyclops moves from D4 to D3
Cyclops moves from C3 to C2
Gorgon moves from A1 to B1
Titan moves from A2 to A1
Behemoth moves from B3 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F4 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 642: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex C2 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 135566334: 4 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Gorgon in Plains hex B1 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D1 with strike number
3, rolling: 421: 1 hit
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 641335166: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 454455521: 7 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 5 + 7 => 9; 3 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 12111: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 412441142: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 3 + 4 => 7; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 4416: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex D3: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 15335: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 7 + 4 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 414453116: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from D3 to E2
Cyclops moves from C2 to D2
Gorgon moves from F4 to F3
Gorgon moves from B1 to C1
Behemoth moves from B2 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Behemoth in Plains hex E3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 65142243: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex C1 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D1 with strike number
3, rolling: 656661: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1: 1 + 5 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 366324: 2 hits
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Cyclops in Brambles hex D2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike
number 4, rolling: 413566525: 6 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike
number 4, rolling: 565343226: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 6 + 5 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 1, rolling: 341336: 6 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 5 + 6 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Cyclops in Plains hex E1 strikes Cyclops in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 264314423: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Behemoth in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 16412: 2 hits
Critter Behemoth in Plains hex E3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Ogre in Plains hex D1 strikes Gorgon in Plains hex C1 with strike number
5, rolling: 261442: 1 hit
Critter Gorgon in Plains hex C1: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from F1 to C4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from D2 to C3
Gorgon moves from C1 to D4
Gorgon moves from F3 to C5
Titan moves from A1 to B4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains hex B4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
4, rolling: 1515211: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex D4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 466435: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex C5 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 212523: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex C3 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 344411216: 1 hit
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 4 + 1 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains hex C4 strikes Titan in Plains hex B4 with strike number
4, rolling: 315551: 3 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex B4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 6
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains hex C4 strikes Titan in Plains hex B4 with strike number
4, rolling: 356333: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex B4: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains hex B4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
4, rolling: 1263456: 4 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 5 + 4 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Babbling Balrog earns 122.0 points (107.0 + 122.0 => 229.0)
Player 'Rational1' is dying, killed by Babbling Balrog
Babbling Balrog earns 48.5 half-points (229.0 + 48.5 => 277.5)
Legion Bk03[Angel, Lion, Lion, Lion, Ogre, Ranger] is eliminated
Legion Bk05[] is eliminated
Babbling Balrog earns 12.0 half-points (277.5 + 12.0 => 289.5)
Legion Bk04[Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Rational1 is dead, telling everyone about it
Legion Bu05 (Egg) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 14 left.
Legion Bu05 (Egg) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 11 left.
Legion Bu03 in Desert hex 7 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Rational3's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gd09 (Scarab) in Brush hex 24 moves to Tower hex 400 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Hills hex 23 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 24 recruits Gorgon with 1 Gorgon
Added Ogre - now there are 6 left.
Legion Gd09 in Tower hex 400 recruits Ogre with nothing
Milvang5's turn, number 10
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd10
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd05 (Heart) in Brush hex 134 moves to Plains hex 133 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Brush hex 130 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Br01 flees from legion Rd09
Milvang5 earns 21.0 half-points (12.0 + 21.0 => 33.0)
Legion Br01[Lion, Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Rd09
Added Lion - now there are 10 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater2's turn, number 11
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Hills hex 9 moves to Woods hex 11 entering on
Left
Legion Br09 (Scroll) in Hills hex 4 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Hills hex 37 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Woods hex 2 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 9 left.
Legion Br02 in Plains hex 1 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Warbear - now there are 20 left.
Legion Br10 in Woods hex 11 recruits Warbear with 3 Centaurs
Hater4's turn, number 11
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr02
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr10 (Laurel) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Desert hex 21 moves to Abyss hex 19 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Gr10 (Hater4) attacks Bu12 (Babbling Balrog) in Brush hex 141
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D3
Gargoyle moves from X2 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater4's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from X5 to E4
Centaur moves from X5 to C3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 111: 0 hits
Centaur in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 423: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 6254: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2334: 0 hits
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 5553: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 5325: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 521: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 144: 0 hits
Hater4's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 556: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2115: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Babbling Balrog earns 24.0 points (289.0 + 24.0 => 313.0)
Legion Gr10[] is eliminated
Added Gargoyle - now there are 6 left.
Legion Bu12 in Brush hex 141 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Legion Bu12 (Trident) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 13 left.
Legion Bu12 (Trident) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu12
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 11
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Desert hex 7 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on
Left
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Plains hex 138 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Brush hex 141 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Marsh hex 140 moves to Brush hex 134 entering on
Left
Legion Bu10 (Padlock) in Tower hex 300 moves to Hills hex 18 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Bu03 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Br03 (Hater2) in Hills hex 4
Troll moves from X2 to C1
Troll moves from X2 to D2
Titan moves from X2 to D1
Ranger moves from X2 to C2
Troll moves from X2 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from X5 to C3
Lion moves from X5 to B2
Lion moves from X5 to D4
Angel moves from X5 to D3
Angel moves from X5 to A1
Troll moves from X5 to E5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex B2 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number 5,
rolling: 42253: 1 hit
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Lion in Plains (1) hex C3 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number
5, rolling: 522361: 2 hits
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number
4, rolling: 653634: 4 hits
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 3 + 4 => 4; 3 excess
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
3 carries available
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
3 hits carry to Troll in Plains hex D2
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Plains hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 65434425: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex D3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Ranger in Bog hex C2 strikes Lion in Plains (1) hex C3 with strike number
4, rolling: 1632: 1 hit
Critter Lion in Plains (1) hex C3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 44535436: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex D3: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 strikes Troll in Plains hex D2 with strike
number 2, rolling: 416553: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2: 3 + 5 => 8; 0 excess
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
One Angel is summoned from legion Bu12 into legion Bu03
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from E5 to E3
Troll undoes move and returns to Plains hex E5
Lion moves from B2 to B1
Lion moves from D4 to F1
Angel moves from D3 to D2
Lion moves from C3 to E2
Troll moves from E5 to E3
Angel moves from X5 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex F1 strikes Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 45655: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Lion in Plains hex B1 strikes Troll in Plains (1) hex C1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 45141: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Plains (1) ...
 
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Category: General
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 9
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Submitted By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: Stack Counter left after a battle

Initial Comment:
Stack counter remains on the board with no units. Stack counter blocks movement. Can't resolve the battle. Only option is to use the new Force Done on the menu. That option doesn't always work. Next turn can move unit off the stack counter if the game isn't hung. 

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Comment By: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Date: 2008-10-09 16:05

Message:
I've had this occur as well.  The legion marker for the dead legion will
remain on the map and will never move again.  But any legions that enter
the area it occupies are forced to stop and fight the non-existant legion.

I also had a game where when the Titan was killed all of the legion
markers for that Titan remain on the Masterboard and interfere with
movement with an unresolveable combat.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:28

Message:
Raising priority.


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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:50

Message:
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Sorry, log window was closed. Here is the saved game.
File Added: zerostackengaged.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 03:48

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New game. Human vs 5 AI. Blue's turn. Green 7 stack engagement with Brown
0 stack in Tower. Message for Blue : Resolve Engagements. Can use Force
Done to make the game proceed. On Green's turn he will be able to move the
stack out of the tower, maybe.

Here is the log. I'll upload the image of the board and the saved game at
that point.
File Added: emptystack.JPG

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 01:14

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File Added: zerostackwithsplitlegion.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 00:56

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Opps, that was a zero stack for brown not gold as per the image file name.
I've saved this game and will upload it next.
File Added: zerostack.xml

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-09-07 00:50

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Here is the game log from the new game I am playing right now. Taken at
the same time as I sent the images. I don't save and reload any games. I
play them straight through. Also re: "Next turn can move unit off the stack
counter if the game isn't hung." What I meant was that the following turn I
can move my normal stack off the other AI player's zero size stack. 

Babbling Balrog chooses color Blue
Setting for "<By type>5" new name: Milvang5
Milvang5 chooses color Red
Setting for "<By type>3" new name: Rational3
Rational3 chooses color Gold
Setting for "<By type>1" new name: Rational1
Rational1 chooses color Black
Setting for "<By type>4" new name: Hater4
Hater4 chooses color Green
Setting for "<By type>2" new name: Hater2
Hater2 chooses color Brown
Hater2 selects initial marker
Hater4 selects initial marker
Babbling Balrog selects initial marker
Rational1 selects initial marker
Rational3 selects initial marker
Milvang5 selects initial marker
4 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Tower hex 600 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Tower hex 600 moves to Plains hex 133 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 12 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 133 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Troll - now there are 27 left.
Legion Br03 in Marsh hex 41 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Hater4's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr06
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Tower hex 500 moves to Plains hex 29 entering on
Right
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Tower hex 500 moves to Brush hex 127 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 11 left.
Legion Gr04 in Plains hex 29 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Cyclops - now there are 27 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 127 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu03
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Tower hex 400 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Tower hex 400 moves to Marsh hex 122 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bu03 in Marsh hex 122 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 24 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational1's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Bk03 into new legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Tower hex 300 tower teleports (Titan) to Tower hex
600 entering on Bottom
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Tower hex 300 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 27 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 110 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Warlock - now there are 5 left.
Legion Bk05 in Tower hex 600 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Rational3's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Gd10 into new legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 5 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan
Rational3 rolls a 3 for movement
Rational3 takes a mulligan and rolls 3
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Tower hex 200 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Tower hex 200 moves to Marsh hex 8 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 12 left.
Legion Gd10 in Marsh hex 8 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Added Cyclops - now there are 25 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 106 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Milvang5's turn, number 1
4 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Milvang5 takes a mulligan and rolls 1
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Tower hex 100 moves to Brush hex 3 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 100 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gargoyle - now there are 8 left.
Legion Rd01 in Brush hex 3 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Added Lion - now there are 26 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 101 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Plains hex 133 moves to Marsh hex 131 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 10 left.
Legion Br03 in Plains hex 1 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Hater4's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Plains hex 29 moves to Tundra hex 4000 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Brush hex 127 moves to Brush hex 31 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gr06 in Brush hex 31 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 24 moves to Jungle hex 121 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Marsh hex 122 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bu03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Cyclops - now there are 23 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 121 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational1's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Plains hex 110 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 106 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Marsh hex 8 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 2
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Brush hex 3 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Plains hex 101 moves to Tower hex 100 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 11 left.
Legion Rd01 in Hills hex 4 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Added Warlock - now there are 4 left.
Legion Rd09 in Tower hex 100 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Hater2's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Marsh hex 131 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Plains hex 1 moves to Tundra hex 6000 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 25 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Troll - now there are 25 left.
Legion Br03 in Tundra hex 6000 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Hater4's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Brush hex 31 moves to Marsh hex 27 entering on Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Tundra hex 4000 moves to Hills hex 23 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 10 left.
Legion Gr04 in Hills hex 23 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 121 moves to Marsh hex 117 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Woods hex 25 moves to Jungle hex 121 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational1's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Plains hex 15 entering on
Right
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Tower hex 600 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 24 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 15 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Cyclops - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bk05 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Rational3's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Brush hex 10 moves to Marsh hex 108 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Plains hex 6 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gd10 in Marsh hex 108 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Cyclops - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 10 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Milvang5's turn, number 3
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 100 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Hills hex 4 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 23 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 1 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br02
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br09
Legion Br09[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Br09 recombined into legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Plains hex 129 moves to Brush hex 31 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 20 left.
Legion Br01 in Brush hex 31 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Hater4's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Woods hex 30 entering on Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Hills hex 23 moves to Abyss hex 26 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 8 left.
Legion Gr06 in Woods hex 30 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 4
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Marsh hex 117 moves to Jungle hex 111 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Jungle hex 121 moves to Plains hex 115 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bu03 in Plains hex 115 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Cyclops - now there are 19 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 111 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational1's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk03 into new legion Bk04
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Plains hex 15 moves to Desert hex 21 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Brush hex 38 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 21 left.
Legion Bk03 in Desert hex 21 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Added Cyclops - now there are 18 left.
Legion Bk05 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 1 Cyclops
Rational3's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd10 into new legion Gd02
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 10 moves to Brush hex 10 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 23 left.
Legion Gd10 in Swamp hex 14 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Added Gorgon - now there are 24 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 10 recruits Gorgon with 2 Cyclopes
Milvang5's turn, number 4
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd11
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 1 moves to Plains hex 6 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Plains hex 1 moves to Mountains hex 5000 entering
on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Minotaur - now there are 20 left.
Legion Rd09 in Mountains hex 5000 recruits Minotaur with 2 Lions
Added Lion - now there are 20 left.
Legion Rd11 in Plains hex 6 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br07
Legion Br07[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Br07 recombined into legion Br03
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Tundra hex 6000 moves to Hills hex 37 entering on
Left
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Plains hex 129 moves to Marsh hex 27 entering on
Left
Legion Br01 (Antlers) in Brush hex 31 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 19 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater4's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr11
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Abyss hex 26 moves to Plains hex 124 entering on
Left
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Woods hex 30 moves to Plains hex 34 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 18 left.
Legion Gr04 in Plains hex 124 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Lion - now there are 17 left.
Legion Gr06 in Plains hex 34 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu12
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu03 into new legion Bu10
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Plains hex 115 moves to Desert hex 114 entering on
Right
Legion Bu10 (Padlock) in Plains hex 115 moves to Tower hex 300 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 7 left.
Legion Bu05 in Plains hex 110 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Ogre - now there are 9 left.
Legion Bu10 in Tower hex 300 recruits Ogre with nothing
Added Lion - now there are 16 left.
Legion Bu03 in Desert hex 114 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Rational1's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk12
Legion Bk12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk12 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Brush hex 38 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Plains hex 15 moves to Hills hex 18 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 5
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd01
Legion Gd01[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd01 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd02 (Claw) in Marsh hex 108 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Legion Gd10 (Scimitars) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 5
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 6 moves to Plains hex 105 entering on
Right
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Plains hex 101 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 15 left.
Legion Rd11 in Plains hex 105 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Hater2's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br11
Legion Br11[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br11 recombined into legion Br01
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br09
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br09 (Scroll) in Hills hex 37 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 8 left.
Legion Br09 in Hills hex 4 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Hater4's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr03
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Plains hex 124 moves to Swamp hex 118 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Plains hex 110 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Desert hex 107 entering
on Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Desert hex 114 moves to Plains hex 110 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 23 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 106 recruits Gorgon with 2 Cyclopes
Added Lion - now there are 14 left.
Legion Bu03 in Plains hex 110 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Rational1's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk11
Legion Bk11[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk11 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 6
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd05
Legion Gd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd05 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Brush hex 10 moves to Swamp hex 14 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 6
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Rd11 (Sword) in Plains hex 105 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Gd02 flees from legion Rd11
Milvang5 earns 12.0 half-points (0.0 + 12.0 => 12.0)
Legion Gd02[Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Rd11
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br07
Legion Br07[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br07 recombined into legion Br01
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Hills hex 37 moves to Swamp hex 42 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 22 left.
Legion Br03 in Swamp hex 42 recruits Troll with 1 Troll
Hater4's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Gr11 (Scales) in Woods hex 30 moves to Marsh hex 36 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Bu05 into new legion Bu06
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 106 moves to Jungle hex 104 entering on
Right
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Plains hex 110 moves to Abyss hex 12 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Rd11 flees from legion Bu05
Babbling Balrog earns 27.0 half-points (0.0 + 27.0 => 27.0)
Legion Rd11[Lion, Lion, Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Bu03 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Gd10 (Rational3) in Abyss hex 12
Angel moves from X0 to D5
Troll moves from X0 to C4
Troll moves from X0 to E3
Centaur moves from X0 to E4
Centaur moves from X0 to D4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex D5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Angel in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X3 to F2
Troll moves from X3 to B2
Lion moves from X3 to B3
Centaur moves from X3 to B4
Lion moves from X3 to E2
Lion moves from X3 to A3
Centaur moves from X3 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Angel in Drift (1) hex D5: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Angel in Drift (1) hex D5 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift (1) hex E4 takes Hex damage
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Angel in Tower (2) hex F2 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 with strike
number 1, rolling: 515222: 6 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 15612: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Lion in Tower (2) hex E2 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 34143: 4 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3: 6 + 4 => 8; 2 excess
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Centaur in Tower (2) hex B4 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 1, rolling: 454: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Drift (1) hex E3 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 53546664: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex F2: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 23554313: 0 hits
Rational3's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from E4 to D6
Angel moves from D5 to E5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Drift hex D4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Drift hex D4 takes Hex damage
Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 34661551: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex B3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Tower (2) hex B3 strikes Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 62462: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4: 6 + 5 => 8; 3 excess
Critter Troll in Drift (1) hex C4 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from F2 to D2
Centaur moves from F1 to F4
Centaur moves from B4 to C5
Lion moves from A3 to B4
Lion moves from B3 to A3
Troll moves from B2 to B3
Lion moves from E2 to F3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with
strike number 4, rolling: 312: 0 hits
Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 with strike
number 4, rolling: 565: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 with strike
number 4, rolling: 125664: 4 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4: 0 + 4 => 3; 1 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex F4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 with
strike number 4, rolling: 546: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex C5 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Rational3's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from B4 to C5
Lion moves from F3 to F4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Tower (2) hex F4 strikes Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 with strike
number 5, rolling: 62523: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5: 5 + 2 => 6; 1 excess
Critter Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with strike
number 5, rolling: 33433: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Tower (2) hex E5 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex F4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 661661: 4 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex F4: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 546: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Rational3's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 strikes Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 with strike
number 3, rolling: 134: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Tower (2) hex C5 strikes Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 with strike
number 5, rolling: 63233: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Tower (2) hex D6 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Babbling Balrog earns 80.0 points (27.0 + 80.0 => 107.0)
Legion Gd10[] is eliminated
Legion Bu03 (Candle) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 12 left.
Legion Bu03 (Candle) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu03
Phase advances to Muster
Added Behemoth - now there are 17 left.
Legion Bu05 in Jungle hex 104 recruits Behemoth with 3 Cyclopes
Rational1's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk12
Legion Bk12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk12 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Hills hex 18 moves to Brush hex 116 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 7
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd05
Legion Gd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Gd05 recombined into legion Gd08
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Swamp hex 14 moves to Woods hex 16 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Milvang5's turn, number 7
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Mountains hex 5000 moves to Brush hex 31 entering
on Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Plains hex 138 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 17 left.
Legion Rd01 in Jungle hex 135 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Added Gargoyle - now there are 7 left.
Legion Rd09 in Brush hex 31 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Hater2's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br12
Legion Br12[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br12 recombined into legion Br01
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Swamp hex 42 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ranger - now there are 27 left.
Legion Br03 in Marsh hex 41 recruits Ranger with 2 Trolls
Hater4's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Gr11 (Scales) in Marsh hex 36 moves to Brush hex 38 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 16 left.
Legion Gr11 in Brush hex 38 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 8
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Abyss hex 12 moves to Jungle hex 111 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational1's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk09
Legion Bk09[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk09 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Desert hex 21 moves to Abyss hex 26 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bk05 (Hand) in Plains hex 101 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Rational3's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Gd08 into new legion Gd09
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gd09 (Scarab) in Woods hex 16 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Woods hex 16 moves to Plains hex 20 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Cyclops - now there are 15 left.
Legion Gd09 in Brush hex 24 recruits Cyclops with 2 Gargoyles
Milvang5's turn, number 8
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd05
Legion Rd05[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd05 recombined into legion Rd01
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd04
Legion Rd04[Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd04 recombined into legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Brush hex 31 moves to Tower hex 500 entering on
Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Jungle hex 135 moves to Brush hex 134 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Br01 into new legion Br06
Legion Br06[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Br06 recombined into legion Br01
2 creatures are split off from legion Br03 into new legion Br10
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Marsh hex 27 moves to Woods hex 30 entering on Left
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Woods hex 2 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Centaur - now there are 6 left.
Legion Br02 in Woods hex 30 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Added Centaur - now there are 5 left.
Legion Br10 in Woods hex 2 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Hater4's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Swamp hex 118 moves to Marsh hex 117 entering on
Left
Legion Gr03 (Diamond) in Plains hex 124 moves to Woods hex 25 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gr06 (Frog) in Plains hex 34 moves to Tower hex 600 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Troll - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gr04 in Marsh hex 117 recruits Troll with 2 Ogres
Added Warlock - now there are 3 left.
Legion Gr06 in Tower hex 600 recruits Warlock with 1 Titan
Added Centaur - now there are 4 left.
Legion Gr03 in Woods hex 25 recruits Centaur with 1 Centaur
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 5 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Jungle hex 104 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Desert hex 107 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Brush hex 106 moves to Plains hex 101 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Jungle hex 111 moves to Brush hex 106 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 22 left.
Legion Bu05 in Brush hex 141 recruits Gorgon with 1 Gorgon
Rational1's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Bk05 into new legion Bk10
Legion Bk10[Gargoyle, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Bk10 recombined into legion Bk05
Phase advances to Move
Rational1 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Bk04 (Feather) in Brush hex 116 moves to Marsh hex 112 entering on
Right
Legion Bk03 (Die) in Abyss hex 26 moves to Plains hex 124 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ranger - now there are 26 left.
Legion Bk03 in Plains hex 124 recruits Ranger with 2 Lions
Rational3's turn, number 9
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Plains hex 20 moves to Hills hex 23 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Ogre - now there are 7 left.
Legion Gd08 in Hills hex 23 recruits Ogre with 1 Ogre
Milvang5's turn, number 9
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd01 into new legion Rd05
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd04
Legion Rd04[Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Legion Rd04 recombined into legion Rd09
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Tower hex 500 tower teleports (Titan) to Brush hex
130 entering on Bottom
Legion Rd01 (Cross) in Brush hex 134 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Rd01 (Milvang5) attacks Br01 (Hater2) in Plains hex 129
Lion moves from X2 to C1
Angel moves from X2 to F2
Lion moves from X2 to D3
Cyclops moves from X2 to E2
Gargoyle moves from X2 to F1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Milvang5's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from X5 to C3
Cyclops moves from X5 to B3
Ogre moves from X5 to D5
Ogre moves from X5 to C4
Ogre moves from X5 to A3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains hex C3 strikes Lion in Plains hex D3 with strike number 3,
rolling: 525125: 3 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex D3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C3 with strike number 5,
rolling: 46152: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex C3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from C1 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex D3 strikes Angel in Plains hex C3 with strike number 5,
rolling: 32631: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex C3: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains hex C3 strikes Lion in Plains hex D3 with strike number 3,
rolling: 514121: 2 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Lion in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Milvang5's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Angel moves from C3 to D3
Cyclops moves from B3 to C2
Ogre moves from D5 to F3
Ogre moves from C4 to D4
Ogre moves from A3 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Cyclops in Plains hex C2 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 654434661: 4 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Angel in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike number
2, rolling: 125351: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 343266: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 131343: 4 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Angel in Plains hex D3 with strike number
6, rolling: 641241116: 2 hits
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 3621: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3: 5 + 1 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Angel in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Hater2's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 163522: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 4 + 5 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 636651: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from C2 to E3
Ogre moves from D4 to F3
Ogre moves from B2 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 541453: 0 hits
Ogre in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike number
4, rolling: 512366: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 4 + 3 => 7; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 341353222: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 621444: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 135632235: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 5 + 3 => 8; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 4
Added Lion - now there are 13 left.
Legion Br01 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from F1 to D2
Lion moves from X2 to D1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 5156: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 331115: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 8 + 3 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
2 carries available
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
2 hits carry to Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D3 with strike number
4, rolling: 416155651: 6 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3: 3 + 6 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 251535: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 166345126: 3 hits
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2: 5 + 3 => 6; 2 excess
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex F2 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
2 carries available
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 7 + 2 => 9; 0 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
2 hits carry to Cyclops in Plains hex E2
Ogre in Plains hex D3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 645145: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Milvang5's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Ogre moves from F3 to F1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E1 with strike number
5, rolling: 2333441: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Lion in Plains hex E1 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 with strike number
3, rolling: 41212: 1 hit
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex E1 strikes Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 with strike number
3, rolling: 55215: 3 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1: 3 + 3 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Ogre in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Lion in Plains hex E1 with strike number
5, rolling: 4566261: 4 hits
Critter Lion in Plains hex E1: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Hater2 earns 78.0 points (0.0 + 78.0 => 78.0)
Legion Rd01[] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
Hater2's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 3 for movement
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Br01
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Woods hex 30 moves to Hills hex 37 entering on Left
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Woods hex 2 moves to Hills hex 9 entering on Left
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Woods hex 2 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Hater4's turn, number 10
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr08
Legion Gr08[Ogre, Ogre, Ogre] is eliminated
Legion Gr08 recombined into legion Gr04
2 creatures are split off from legion Gr06 into new legion Gr10
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr10 (Laurel) in Tower hex 600 moves to Marsh hex 41 entering on
Right
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Marsh hex 117 moves to Desert hex 21 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 12 left.
Legion Gr04 in Desert hex 21 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 3 for movement
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Brush hex 141 moves to Plains hex 138 entering on
Left
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Brush hex 106 moves to Desert hex 7 entering on
Bottom
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Brush hex 102 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Plains hex 101 moves to Marsh hex 140 entering on
Right
Phase advances to Fight
Bu05 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Bk05 (Rational1) in Plains hex 138
Titan moves from X2 to F1
Warlock moves from X2 to F2
Cyclops moves from X2 to E2
Cyclops moves from X2 to E1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to C1
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D2
Ogre moves from X2 to D1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from X5 to A2
Cyclops moves from X5 to E5
Cyclops moves from X5 to B3
Gorgon moves from X5 to C4
Gorgon moves from X5 to A3
Behemoth moves from X5 to C5
Titan moves from X5 to B4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Rational1's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Gargoyle moves from C1 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E5 with strike
number 2, rolling: 51: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E5: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from E5 to F4
Cyclops moves from B3 to D4
Cyclops moves from A2 to C3
Gorgon moves from C4 to E4
Gorgon undoes move and returns to Plains hex C4
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains (1) hex A2
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains hex B3
Cyclops undoes move and returns to Plains hex E5
Cyclops moves from E5 to E4
Gorgon moves from C4 to F4
Cyclops moves from B3 to D4
Cyclops moves from A2 to C3
Gorgon moves from A3 to A1
Titan moves from B4 to A2
Behemoth moves from C5 to B3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F4 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 321: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex D4 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 542113424: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 5, rolling: 533544361: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex D4 with strike
number 3, rolling: 1451: 2 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex D4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 2, rolling: 31: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E4: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 3
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from E4 to E3
Cyclops moves from D4 to D3
Cyclops moves from C3 to C2
Gorgon moves from A1 to B1
Titan moves from A2 to A1
Behemoth moves from B3 to B2
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F4 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 642: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex C2 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 5, rolling: 135566334: 4 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Gorgon in Plains hex B1 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D1 with strike number
3, rolling: 421: 1 hit
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex D3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 641335166: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 454455521: 7 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 5 + 7 => 9; 3 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 12111: 1 hit
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 412441142: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 3 + 4 => 7; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex D2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex D3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 4416: 3 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex D3: 2 + 3 => 5; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 2, rolling: 15335: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3: 7 + 4 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E3 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Cyclops in Plains hex E3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 414453116: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 4
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from D3 to E2
Cyclops moves from C2 to D2
Gorgon moves from F4 to F3
Gorgon moves from B1 to C1
Behemoth moves from B2 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Behemoth in Plains hex E3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with strike
number 6, rolling: 65142243: 1 hit
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex C1 strikes Ogre in Plains hex D1 with strike number
3, rolling: 656661: 5 hits
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1: 1 + 5 => 6; 0 excess
Critter Ogre in Plains hex D1 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Gorgon in Plains (1) hex F3 strikes Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 with
strike number 5, rolling: 366324: 2 hits
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Critter Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 is now dead: (hits=5 > power=5)
Cyclops in Brambles hex D2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike
number 4, rolling: 413566525: 6 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 0 + 6 => 6; 0 excess
Cyclops in Plains hex E2 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E1 with strike
number 4, rolling: 565343226: 5 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1: 6 + 5 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E1 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains (1) hex F1 strikes Cyclops in Plains hex E2 with strike
number 1, rolling: 341336: 6 hits
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2: 5 + 6 => 9; 2 excess
Critter Cyclops in Plains hex E2 is now dead: (hits=9 > power=9)
Cyclops in Plains hex E1 strikes Cyclops in Brambles hex D2 with strike
number 4, rolling: 264314423: 4 hits
Critter Cyclops in Brambles hex D2: 0 + 4 => 4; 0 excess
Warlock in Plains (1) hex F2 strikes Behemoth in Plains hex E3 with strike
number 3, rolling: 16412: 2 hits
Critter Behemoth in Plains hex E3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Ogre in Plains hex D1 strikes Gorgon in Plains hex C1 with strike number
5, rolling: 261442: 1 hit
Critter Gorgon in Plains hex C1: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Titan moves from F1 to C4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 5
Battle phase advances to Move
Cyclops moves from D2 to C3
Gorgon moves from C1 to D4
Gorgon moves from F3 to C5
Titan moves from A1 to B4
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains hex B4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
4, rolling: 1515211: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex D4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 466435: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 2 + 2 => 4; 0 excess
Gorgon in Plains hex C5 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 212523: 0 hits
Cyclops in Plains hex C3 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
6, rolling: 344411216: 1 hit
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 4 + 1 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains hex C4 strikes Titan in Plains hex B4 with strike number
4, rolling: 315551: 3 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex B4: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Rational1's battle turn, number 6
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Titan in Plains hex C4 strikes Titan in Plains hex B4 with strike number
4, rolling: 356333: 2 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex B4: 3 + 2 => 5; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains hex B4 strikes Titan in Plains hex C4 with strike number
4, rolling: 1263456: 4 hits
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4: 5 + 4 => 6; 3 excess
Critter Titan in Plains hex C4 is now dead: (hits=6 > power=6)
Babbling Balrog earns 122.0 points (107.0 + 122.0 => 229.0)
Player 'Rational1' is dying, killed by Babbling Balrog
Babbling Balrog earns 48.5 half-points (229.0 + 48.5 => 277.5)
Legion Bk03[Angel, Lion, Lion, Lion, Ogre, Ranger] is eliminated
Legion Bk05[] is eliminated
Babbling Balrog earns 12.0 half-points (277.5 + 12.0 => 289.5)
Legion Bk04[Centaur, Centaur] is eliminated
Rational1 is dead, telling everyone about it
Legion Bu05 (Egg) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 14 left.
Legion Bu05 (Egg) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu05
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 11 left.
Legion Bu03 in Desert hex 7 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Rational3's turn, number 10
Phase advances to Move
Rational3 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Gd09 (Scarab) in Brush hex 24 moves to Tower hex 400 entering on
Bottom
Legion Gd08 (Rings) in Hills hex 23 moves to Brush hex 24 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Gorgon - now there are 21 left.
Legion Gd08 in Brush hex 24 recruits Gorgon with 1 Gorgon
Added Ogre - now there are 6 left.
Legion Gd09 in Tower hex 400 recruits Ogre with nothing
Milvang5's turn, number 10
2 creatures are split off from legion Rd09 into new legion Rd10
Phase advances to Move
Milvang5 rolls a 1 for movement
Legion Rd05 (Heart) in Brush hex 134 moves to Plains hex 133 entering on
Right
Legion Rd09 (Spiral) in Brush hex 130 moves to Plains hex 129 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Legion Br01 flees from legion Rd09
Milvang5 earns 21.0 half-points (12.0 + 21.0 => 33.0)
Legion Br01[Lion, Lion, Gargoyle] is eliminated
Phase advances to Muster
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Rd09
Added Lion - now there are 10 left.
Legion Rd09 in Plains hex 129 recruits Lion with 1 Lion
Hater2's turn, number 11
Phase advances to Move
Hater2 rolls a 2 for movement
Legion Br10 (Spider) in Hills hex 9 moves to Woods hex 11 entering on
Left
Legion Br09 (Scroll) in Hills hex 4 moves to Brush hex 102 entering on
Right
Legion Br02 (Bell) in Hills hex 37 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Br03 (Chest) in Woods hex 2 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on Left
Phase advances to Fight
Phase advances to Muster
Added Lion - now there are 9 left.
Legion Br02 in Plains hex 1 recruits Lion with 2 Centaurs
Added Warbear - now there are 20 left.
Legion Br10 in Woods hex 11 recruits Warbear with 3 Centaurs
Hater4's turn, number 11
3 creatures are split off from legion Gr04 into new legion Gr02
Phase advances to Move
Hater4 rolls a 4 for movement
Legion Gr10 (Laurel) in Marsh hex 41 moves to Brush hex 141 entering on
Left
Legion Gr04 (Fish) in Desert hex 21 moves to Abyss hex 19 entering on
Bottom
Phase advances to Fight
Gr10 (Hater4) attacks Bu12 (Babbling Balrog) in Brush hex 141
Gargoyle moves from X2 to D3
Gargoyle moves from X2 to E3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Hater4's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Centaur moves from X5 to E4
Centaur moves from X5 to C3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 111: 0 hits
Centaur in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 423: 0 hits
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 6254: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2334: 0 hits
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex C3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 5553: 3 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3: 2 + 3 => 3; 2 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex C3 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 5325: 2 hits
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 0 + 2 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 521: 1 hit
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Centaur in Plains hex C3 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles (1) hex D3 with
strike number 5, rolling: 144: 0 hits
Hater4's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Centaur in Plains hex E4 strikes Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 with strike
number 4, rolling: 556: 3 hits
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3: 1 + 3 => 4; 0 excess
Critter Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Gargoyle in Brambles hex E3 strikes Centaur in Plains hex E4 with strike
number 5, rolling: 2115: 1 hit
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4: 2 + 1 => 3; 0 excess
Critter Centaur in Plains hex E4 is now dead: (hits=3 > power=3)
Babbling Balrog earns 24.0 points (289.0 + 24.0 => 313.0)
Legion Gr10[] is eliminated
Added Gargoyle - now there are 6 left.
Legion Bu12 in Brush hex 141 recruits Gargoyle with 1 Gargoyle
Legion Bu12 (Trident) is going to call addCreature() to add one acquired
Angel
Added Angel - now there are 13 left.
Legion Bu12 (Trident) acquired one Angel
tellEngagementResultHandling, winner = Bu12
Phase advances to Muster
Babbling Balrog's turn, number 11
Phase advances to Move
Babbling Balrog rolls a 6 for movement
Legion Bu03 (Candle) in Desert hex 7 moves to Hills hex 4 entering on
Left
Legion Bu05 (Egg) in Plains hex 138 moves to Plains hex 1 entering on
Right
Legion Bu12 (Trident) in Brush hex 141 moves to Jungle hex 135 entering on
Right
Legion Bu06 (Foot) in Marsh hex 140 moves to Brush hex 134 entering on
Left
Legion Bu10 (Padlock) in Tower hex 300 moves to Hills hex 18 entering on
Left
Phase advances to Fight
Bu03 (Babbling Balrog) attacks Br03 (Hater2) in Hills hex 4
Troll moves from X2 to C1
Troll moves from X2 to D2
Titan moves from X2 to D1
Ranger moves from X2 to C2
Troll moves from X2 to E1
Battle phase advances to Fight
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 1
Battle phase advances to Move
Lion moves from X5 to C3
Lion moves from X5 to B2
Lion moves from X5 to D4
Angel moves from X5 to D3
Angel moves from X5 to A1
Troll moves from X5 to E5
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex B2 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number 5,
rolling: 42253: 1 hit
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Lion in Plains (1) hex C3 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number
5, rolling: 522361: 2 hits
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 1 + 2 => 3; 0 excess
Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 strikes Ranger in Bog hex C2 with strike number
4, rolling: 653634: 4 hits
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2: 3 + 4 => 4; 3 excess
Critter Ranger in Bog hex C2 is now dead: (hits=4 > power=4)
3 carries available
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
3 hits carry to Troll in Plains hex D2
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Troll in Plains hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 65434425: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex D3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Ranger in Bog hex C2 strikes Lion in Plains (1) hex C3 with strike number
4, rolling: 1632: 1 hit
Critter Lion in Plains (1) hex C3: 0 + 1 => 1; 0 excess
Hater2's battle turn, number 2
Battle phase advances to Move
Battle phase advances to Fight
Troll in Plains hex D2 strikes Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 with strike
number 6, rolling: 44535436: 1 hit
Critter Angel in Plains (1) hex D3: 1 + 1 => 2; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Angel in Plains (1) hex D3 strikes Troll in Plains hex D2 with strike
number 2, rolling: 416553: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2: 3 + 5 => 8; 0 excess
Critter Troll in Plains hex D2 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Babbling Balrog's battle turn, number 2
One Angel is summoned from legion Bu12 into legion Bu03
Battle phase advances to Move
Troll moves from E5 to E3
Troll undoes move and returns to Plains hex E5
Lion moves from B2 to B1
Lion moves from D4 to F1
Angel moves from D3 to D2
Lion moves from C3 to E2
Troll moves from E5 to E3
Angel moves from X5 to D3
Battle phase advances to Fight
Lion in Plains hex F1 strikes Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 45655: 5 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1: 0 + 5 => 5; 0 excess
Lion in Plains hex B1 strikes Troll in Plains (1) hex C1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 45141: 3 hits
Critter Troll in Plains (1) hex C1: 0 + 3 => 3; 0 excess
Lion in Plains hex E2 strikes Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 36462: 4 hits
Critter Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1: 5 + 4 => 8; 1 excess
Critter Troll in Brambles (1) hex E1 is now dead: (hits=8 > power=8)
Angel in Plains hex D2 strikes Troll in Plains (1) hex C1 with strike
number 3, rolling: 614532: 4 hits
Critter Troll in Plains (1) hex C1: 3 + 4 => 7; 0 excess
Battle phase advances to Strikeback
Titan in Plains (1) hex D1 strikes Angel in Pla...
 
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 09:13

Message:
When you say "On the third or so new game", 
do you mean New game from inside game, 
or from starting the web start once again (click the icon/link)?

How often did you click the web start icon totally?

How do you end the application - using any of the QUIT buttons/menu item,
or just closing the _Game Setup_ dialog with the "x" in right upper
corner.
(This "x" is the only way I can imagine how to get out of the game / get
it
away from screen which does NOT trigger the System.exit after 10
seconds!)

I cannot imagine a way how three Colossus instances stay alive if you use
QUIT.

Could you next time check, how many javaw processes are there
- before you click the web start icon
- after Game Setup dialog came up
- after Game has fully started, somewhere in turn 1 or 2
- before you click QUIT, open process window look how many there are
- about 10 secs after QUIT one javaw should go away.


Do you play only with "1 Human + a number of AIs"?
You do not use "Network clients", do you?

This is really mysterious...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 09:05

Message:
When you say "On the third or so new game", 
do you mean New game from inside game, 
or from starting the web start once again (click the icon/link)?

How often did you click the web start icon totally?

How do you end the application - using any of the QUIT buttons/menu item,
or just closing the _Game Setup_ dialog with the "x" in right upper
corner.
(This "x" is the only way I can imagine how to get out of the game / get
it
away from screen which does NOT trigger the System.exit after 10
seconds!)

I cannot imagine a way how three Colossus instances stay alive if you use
QUIT.

Could you next time check, how many javaw processes are there
- before you click the web start icon
- after Game Setup dialog came up
- after Game has fully started, somewhere in turn 1 or 2
- before you click QUIT, open process window look how many there are
- about 10 secs after QUIT one javaw should go away.


Do you play only with "1 Human + a number of AIs"?
You do not use "Network clients", do you?

This is really mysterious...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-09 08:52

Message:
I recreated this again with the latest public testing build.
Same as before, though I was able to select "New Game" from the File menu
a couple of times successfully, after I lost, while the AI was still
playing against itself.
On the third or so new game, I got the client connect window.
The Process Manager showed 3 javaw.exe processes.
I will attach the Java Console from the game that opened the client
connect window.  I don't have console output for the game(s) that failed to
exit properly.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-08 00:10

Message:

I have committed now several changes which target to this,
the whole shutdown procedure etc. Mostly:

1) Once all clients did connect, server stops accepting and
   closes the server socket.

2) Whenever user selects "Quit", this triggers a demon thread
   which sleeps 10 seconds, and in case the JVM is then still 
   alive ( = did not terminate by itself as expected) it will
   do a System.exit(1) together with a relevant log message.

So in any case, following games should not be face the problem
any more that the new clients wrongly connect to old server
socket and the new started game/server waits hopelessly for them.

(not visible in public build nor public testing build yet).





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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:11

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257b.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 23:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-01 08:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

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Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-10-01 03:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 23:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 01:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


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Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 23:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 17:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-15 09:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-15 01:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cleka
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Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
not just the latest update.
Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-09 09:05

Message:
When you say "On the third or so new game", 
do you mean New game from inside game, 
or from starting the web start once again (click the icon/link)?

How often did you click the web start icon totally?

How do you end the application - using any of the QUIT buttons/menu item,
or just closing the _Game Setup_ dialog with the "x" in right upper
corner.
(This "x" is the only way I can imagine how to get out of the game / get
it
away from screen which does NOT trigger the System.exit after 10
seconds!)

I cannot imagine a way how three Colossus instances stay alive if you use
QUIT.

Could you next time check, how many javaw processes are there
- before you click the web start icon
- after Game Setup dialog came up
- after Game has fully started, somewhere in turn 1 or 2
- before you click QUIT, open process window look how many there are
- about 10 secs after QUIT one javaw should go away.


Do you play only with "1 Human + a number of AIs"?
You do not use "Network clients", do you?

This is really mysterious...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-09 08:52

Message:
I recreated this again with the latest public testing build.
Same as before, though I was able to select "New Game" from the File menu
a couple of times successfully, after I lost, while the AI was still
playing against itself.
On the third or so new game, I got the client connect window.
The Process Manager showed 3 javaw.exe processes.
I will attach the Java Console from the game that opened the client
connect window.  I don't have console output for the game(s) that failed to
exit properly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-08 00:10

Message:

I have committed now several changes which target to this,
the whole shutdown procedure etc. Mostly:

1) Once all clients did connect, server stops accepting and
   closes the server socket.

2) Whenever user selects "Quit", this triggers a demon thread
   which sleeps 10 seconds, and in case the JVM is then still 
   alive ( = did not terminate by itself as expected) it will
   do a System.exit(1) together with a relevant log message.

So in any case, following games should not be face the problem
any more that the new clients wrongly connect to old server
socket and the new started game/server waits hopelessly for them.

(not visible in public build nor public testing build yet).





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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:11

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257b.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 23:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-01 08:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-10-01 03:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 23:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 01:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 23:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 17:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-15 09:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=101939&aid=2111020&group_id=1939

Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by dmorenus
You can respond by visiting: 
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Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
not just the latest update.
Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-08 22:52

Message:
I recreated this again with the latest public testing build.
Same as before, though I was able to select "New Game" from the File menu
a couple of times successfully, after I lost, while the AI was still
playing against itself.
On the third or so new game, I got the client connect window.
The Process Manager showed 3 javaw.exe processes.
I will attach the Java Console from the game that opened the client
connect window.  I don't have console output for the game(s) that failed to
exit properly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-07 14:10

Message:

I have committed now several changes which target to this,
the whole shutdown procedure etc. Mostly:

1) Once all clients did connect, server stops accepting and
   closes the server socket.

2) Whenever user selects "Quit", this triggers a demon thread
   which sleeps 10 seconds, and in case the JVM is then still 
   alive ( = did not terminate by itself as expected) it will
   do a System.exit(1) together with a relevant log message.

So in any case, following games should not be face the problem
any more that the new clients wrongly connect to old server
socket and the new started game/server waits hopelessly for them.

(not visible in public build nor public testing build yet).





----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:11

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 13:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 22:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-15 01:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cleka
You can respond by visiting: 
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Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
not just the latest update.
Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-08 00:10

Message:

I have committed now several changes which target to this,
the whole shutdown procedure etc. Mostly:

1) Once all clients did connect, server stops accepting and
   closes the server socket.

2) Whenever user selects "Quit", this triggers a demon thread
   which sleeps 10 seconds, and in case the JVM is then still 
   alive ( = did not terminate by itself as expected) it will
   do a System.exit(1) together with a relevant log message.

So in any case, following games should not be face the problem
any more that the new clients wrongly connect to old server
socket and the new started game/server waits hopelessly for them.

(not visible in public build nor public testing build yet).





----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:11

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 23:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-01 08:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-10-01 03:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 23:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 01:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 23:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 17:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-15 09:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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Feature Requests item #2135369, was opened at 2008-09-29 05:41
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
>Assigned to: Dranathi (dranathi)
Summary: Allow different starting creatures per color

Initial Comment:
This is only applicable to variants, but it might be nice if it were possible to configure the starting creatures separately for each color.
This together with custom mustering trees would allow variants with the equivalent of different races or factions for each color.
For example black might always start with undead creatures, whereas light brown always starts with plains creatures.

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>Comment By: Dranathi (dranathi)
Date: 2008-10-07 15:28

Message:
I find it interesting.  I'll put it on my Wish list.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-06 08:28

Message:

Do you really mean different start creatures per *color*, not "by player"
?

By color would mean, ok, if I pick black, then I get undead, if I pick Red
I get ...whatever... .
(somewhat like on ACTS: if I pick Green I get color 100 but Red I get 500
or something).

So the one who has the opportunity to choose color has also more choices
which "familiy" of creatures to start with.

In this scenario the "which color gets what" would need to be defined
before the "New Game" button (in Game Setup dialog) is pressed. There could
be another tab "Special" or something...

---

Well, sounds like an interesting idea, ...like so many other ideas. 

Right now we / I worry more about getting a playable / stable version of
Colossus again, and after that....

Well, we can have this feature suggestion in the list, but until someone
stands up and takes the ball not much will happen. How about if you try to
implement something by yourself?  ;-)

-Clemens
 

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Category: Variant
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: BeezeGods 12 variant playtesting

Initial Comment:

 Clemens recommended I use the bug tracker for this -
sorry if I disturb anyone else ......

 I've been playtesting Beezegods 12 a lot 

1) the deities & other "lords" including the phantom
are teleporting out of hellmouth &/or circle -

2) do the deities & other lord types (archdevil)
recruit downward on the ladder ??? I'm not seeing this
happen .....

3) is there a way to develop hints or better AI tatics
in the battlemaps to use terrain & creatures more 
effectively?  i.e. use higher terrain properly,
use non-recruitable units more aggressively ???

(I know I'm nitpicking on the stupid AI's -
I'm running 11 ai's half Milvang half Random
and they *still* make very bad tactical mistakes)

4) may I reccomend having 
 2 knights recruit aphrodite
 3 knights recruit apollo
 3 basilisk recruit hermes
 4 basilisk recruit dionysous
   the wraith lineup as is becomes too powerful
stacking Beezelbub, Hermes, Dionysous with 4 Wraiths
looks a little awkward....
 
5) are there hints for the AI's to correctly
recruit the deities ??? I'm seeing Aphro & Apollo
show up frequently on the AI side, but very few
of the other deities ....
 
Sourceforge won't allow me to upload/attach 
a saved game because it's too large .........
(50 turns or more - I'm delibrately waiting
so the AI's have a fair chance of recruiting Deities)

Bonniee_Partiee

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>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-07 10:27

Message:

Thanks for the feedback! Here "some" comments:

> Question: 4 Lords recruits Hades 
> - I imagine they don't have to be the same type (ie 4 arch mages)

YES they have to be the same type. We don't want to let someone get 
this strong creature too easily, would we? ;-)

No, seriously: Colossus knows only "N times the same" concept of
recruiting.
E.g. mixed recruiting (1 X + 2 Y) would be quite some extra work.
And the "4 Lords" is resolved already during loadinto "4 X, 4Y, 4 Z or
..." 
i.e. into a tree-representation of existing concrete creatures. 
(not abstract concept like lord or demilord).

---

I've been discussing the recruiting conditions quite much 
with Bonnie recently, and changed quite frequently...

> Game doesn't offer Estia when I have 3 Fiends in the Hellmouth.

Right. Readme says wrongly 3. Recruiting xml file says 4.

If you click on a creature in caretakers stack (!)  
   (not full recruit tree window... should add it there too)
it will tell you what it expects to recruit that certain creature.

[The recruiting tree / window is basically unreadable for those cases,
IMHO]-:

So right now for Estia it says there:  4 Fiends.
Actually... it says:

in Hellmouth     by 3 Devils, by 1 Fiend
in Hellmouth     2 recruit a Beelzebub, 4 recruit a Estia, 1 recruit a
Fiend, 4 recruit a Hades

Hm. So a Fiends pile can get Beelzebub, Estia and Hades. Not good...
(this is, because Fiend is a Lord. It's the only Lord that is
recruitable,
all other Lords are acquirables. Or exist only once or something).

Furthermore, Hades is from skill and capabilities basically identical to
Beelzebub
(13-4 magic missiling Lord). SO this is even more redundant...


I had suggested to Bonnie the following:

---clip---

I tried to make it balanced in that sense, that "N Mammoth" should 
give something somewhat equally strong as "N Colossus".

Hera and Hades are "quite similar". Zeus is the strongest, so should be
hardest to get.

What about:


4 Mummies or 4 Lichs    recruit Athena - 10 4 					=> 40
3 Mammoths              recruit Hades - 13 4 magical rangestriker 	=> 52
3 Colossi               recruit Hera - 18 3 flyer 				=> 54
4 Lords                 recruit Zeus - 15 4 magical rangestriker 		=> 60



Mammoth are "stupid" (24 x 2), so they earn a "...-4" god.

And in a pile of Colossus is already enough ( ... - 4), so they get only
the 18-3.

Overall, is the "needs 4 or 3 " too much? Would "some with 3, some with 2"
be better?


2 Knights recruit Aphrodite 6 4 flyer
3 Rangers recruit Apolo - 7 4 rangestriker
2 Wraiths recruit Hermes - 9 3 flyer
3 Basilisks recruit Dionysous - 10 3 flyer, rangestriker
2 Phoenixes recruit Dimitra - 11 3
2 Fiends recruit Estia - 9 4
3 Golems recruit Ares - 13 3
2 Hydrae recruit Poseidon - 15 3
2 Unicorns recruit Hepfaestus - 20 2
2 Manticores recruit Artemis - 16 3 rangestriker 
3 Mummies or 3 Lichs recruit Athena - 10 4 			=> 40
2 Mammoths recruit Hades - 13 4 magical rangestriker 		=> 52
2 Colossi recruit  Hera - 18 3 flyer 				=> 54
2 Lords recruit Zeus - 15 4 magical rangestriker 		=> 60

or even:

2 Lords OR 3 Demilords recruit Hades - 13 4 magical rangestriker 		=> 52

---clap---

Hm. I'd like to make Fiend only a demilord.

But then stay with 3 Lords and 4 Demilords. Zeus is really a killer
(15-4),
so that should not be sooo easy to get (getting e.g. 2 angels into same
pile
is not that hard.)





---clip---

Those are the Lords:

23 lines matching " lord=\"true\"" in buffer BeelzeGods12Cre.xml.
    5:    <creature name="Angel" power="6" skill="4" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="36" 
    6:    <creature name="Archangel" power="10" skill="4" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="12" 
    7:    <creature name="Archdevil" power="9" skill="4" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="12" 
    8:    <creature name="Archmage" power="9" skill="4" "true" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="12" 
   19:    <creature name="Fiend" power="13" skill="3" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="16" 
   36:    <creature name="Phantom" power="13" skill="3" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="12" 

   13:    <creature name="Death" power="16" skill="3" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   10:    <creature name="Beelzebub" power="13" skill="4" "true"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 

   42:    <creature name="Titan" power="-1" skill="4" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="12" 

   50:    <creature name="Zeus" power="15" skill="4" "true" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   51:    <creature name="Hera" power="18" skill="3" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   52:    <creature name="Hepfaestus" power="20" skill="2" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 
   53:    <creature name="Poseidon" power="15" skill="3" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 
   54:    <creature name="Ares" power="13" skill="3" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   55:    <creature name="Dimitra" power="11" skill="3" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 
   56:    <creature name="Aphrodite" power="6" skill="4" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 
   57:    <creature name="Apolo" power="7" skill="4" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   58:    <creature name="Hermes" power="9" skill="3" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   59:    <creature name="Artemis" power="16" skill="3" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 
   60:    <creature name="Athena" power="10" skill="4" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   61:    <creature name="Hades" power="13" skill="4" "true" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   62:    <creature name="Estia" power="9" skill="4" "false" lord="true"
demilord="false" count="1" 
   63:    <creature name="Dionysous" power="10" skill="3" "false"
lord="true" demilord="false" count="1" 

All the deities, Titan, Beelzebub and Death exist only once - so no chance
to have 4.

-------------

Those are the Demilords:

9 lines matching " demilord=\"true\"" in buffer BeelzeGods12Cre.xml.
    4:    <creature name="AirElemental" power="5"  lord="false"
demilord="true" count="12"  />
   14:    <creature name="Devil" power="6"  lord="false" demilord="true"
count="36"  />
   17:    <creature name="EarthElemental" power="16"  lord="false"
demilord="true" count="12"  />
   20:    <creature name="FireElemental" power="10"  lord="false"
demilord="true" count="12"  />
   24:    <creature name="Golem" power="14"  lord="false" demilord="true"
count="20"  />
   26:    <creature name="Imp" power="6"  lord="false" demilord="true"
count="36"  />
   30:    <creature name="Mage" power="7"  lord="false" demilord="true"
count="12"  />
   41:    <creature name="Spectre" power="11"  lord="false"
demilord="true" count="12"  />
   46:    <creature name="WaterElemental" power="8"  lord="false"
demilord="true" count="12"  />
 

---clap---


3 Lords is not too easy, but doable.

4 Demilords... Imp is already demilord, and you get that for free in
Hellmouth.
(ok, then you have Zeus in a pile of dumb imps, but hey, Gods are meant to
summon;-).

So I think Lord and Demilords numbers should be 4 and 3.

What do others think?


-Clemens



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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-10-07 09:55

Message:
Game doesn't offer Estia when I have 3 Fiends in the Hellmouth. It offers
everything else including Beelzebub. Turn 81. Titan 32 pts. 11 AIs ( 10
dead) : 4 Rational, 1 Coward, 2 Milv, 2 Simple, 2 Haters.  No bugs or hangs
during the game. Following gods have been recruited so far: 

Aphrodite 6 4 flyer
Dimitra - 11 3
Ares - 13 3
Poseidon - 15 3 - recruited by AI, killed by me, and recruited by me
Hepfaestus - 20 2
Artemis - 16 3 rangestriker
Hera - 18 3 flyer

Question: 4 Lords recruits Hades - I imagine they don't have to be the
same type (ie 4 arch mages)


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 01:01

Message:

1) is now fixed.

2) no, the Gods cannot recruit down. That is the same principle as
"Guardian in Tower cannot recruit just anything" (otherwise, 3 Colossus
make guardian, if you have Guardian could you recruit Colossus? No). Also
an explanation for that added in the Variant README file.

3) Easy way to develop hints for AI: I don't see that happen in near
future.

4) Right. I have now totally rearranged the recruiting conditions for the
Gods. There is so many creatures as choices, that we don't need to
duplicately use them; i.e. there is no "double use", that 2 X make this and
3 X make that. See the Variant Readme for details.

5) NO. I still haven't done the BeelzeGod12 hints file. Once I've done it,
you will hear it from me...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:30

Message:

0) Don't worry, NO, you don't disturb - that's what the tracker is made
for.

1) "are teleporting out of hellmouth &/or circle -"

   yes, that is a bug. Colossus errornously uses the "has_startlist"
property
   to decide whether teleport is allowed, instead of the is_tower.
   Hm. Perhaps I should just fix it quickly ;-)
   Also applies to Beelzebub itself, and even Pantheon (Mantio), I think.

2) "do the deities & other lord types (archdevil) recruit downward on the
ladder "

They should, but you are right: they don't. 

If you open caretaker window, and the click on e.g. aphrodite and ranger,
you can see the who recruits who. And indeed the recruiting down the
ladder 
is missing. Should make a separate bug report about it.


3) "is there a way to develop hints or better AI tatics..."

I don't see a feasible way.


4) Agreed, that with the Wraith. If you have 4, you can get all 
of the 3 other power monsters. Didn't see it from that angle so far.

Yes, I can change it to your suggestion.

5) No, I still haven't made the AI hints... so they don't go for them.
   I will send you a mail when I did it. 
   As said, right now I try to get Colossus working again,
   because since the august build for some players it hangs in 95% of the
   games, sooner or later.

-Clemens


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Category: Variant
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: BeezeGods 12 variant playtesting

Initial Comment:

 Clemens recommended I use the bug tracker for this -
sorry if I disturb anyone else ......

 I've been playtesting Beezegods 12 a lot 

1) the deities & other "lords" including the phantom
are teleporting out of hellmouth &/or circle -

2) do the deities & other lord types (archdevil)
recruit downward on the ladder ??? I'm not seeing this
happen .....

3) is there a way to develop hints or better AI tatics
in the battlemaps to use terrain & creatures more 
effectively?  i.e. use higher terrain properly,
use non-recruitable units more aggressively ???

(I know I'm nitpicking on the stupid AI's -
I'm running 11 ai's half Milvang half Random
and they *still* make very bad tactical mistakes)

4) may I reccomend having 
 2 knights recruit aphrodite
 3 knights recruit apollo
 3 basilisk recruit hermes
 4 basilisk recruit dionysous
   the wraith lineup as is becomes too powerful
stacking Beezelbub, Hermes, Dionysous with 4 Wraiths
looks a little awkward....
 
5) are there hints for the AI's to correctly
recruit the deities ??? I'm seeing Aphro & Apollo
show up frequently on the AI side, but very few
of the other deities ....
 
Sourceforge won't allow me to upload/attach 
a saved game because it's too large .........
(50 turns or more - I'm delibrately waiting
so the AI's have a fair chance of recruiting Deities)

Bonniee_Partiee

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Comment By: Babbling Balrog (nsillito)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:55

Message:
Game doesn't offer Estia when I have 3 Fiends in the Hellmouth. It offers
everything else including Beelzebub. Turn 81. Titan 32 pts. 11 AIs ( 10
dead) : 4 Rational, 1 Coward, 2 Milv, 2 Simple, 2 Haters.  No bugs or hangs
during the game. Following gods have been recruited so far: 

Aphrodite 6 4 flyer
Dimitra - 11 3
Ares - 13 3
Poseidon - 15 3 - recruited by AI, killed by me, and recruited by me
Hepfaestus - 20 2
Artemis - 16 3 rangestriker
Hera - 18 3 flyer

Question: 4 Lords recruits Hades - I imagine they don't have to be the
same type (ie 4 arch mages)


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:01

Message:

1) is now fixed.

2) no, the Gods cannot recruit down. That is the same principle as
"Guardian in Tower cannot recruit just anything" (otherwise, 3 Colossus
make guardian, if you have Guardian could you recruit Colossus? No). Also
an explanation for that added in the Variant README file.

3) Easy way to develop hints for AI: I don't see that happen in near
future.

4) Right. I have now totally rearranged the recruiting conditions for the
Gods. There is so many creatures as choices, that we don't need to
duplicately use them; i.e. there is no "double use", that 2 X make this and
3 X make that. See the Variant Readme for details.

5) NO. I still haven't done the BeelzeGod12 hints file. Once I've done it,
you will hear it from me...

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:30

Message:

0) Don't worry, NO, you don't disturb - that's what the tracker is made
for.

1) "are teleporting out of hellmouth &/or circle -"

   yes, that is a bug. Colossus errornously uses the "has_startlist"
property
   to decide whether teleport is allowed, instead of the is_tower.
   Hm. Perhaps I should just fix it quickly ;-)
   Also applies to Beelzebub itself, and even Pantheon (Mantio), I think.

2) "do the deities & other lord types (archdevil) recruit downward on the
ladder "

They should, but you are right: they don't. 

If you open caretaker window, and the click on e.g. aphrodite and ranger,
you can see the who recruits who. And indeed the recruiting down the
ladder 
is missing. Should make a separate bug report about it.


3) "is there a way to develop hints or better AI tatics..."

I don't see a feasible way.


4) Agreed, that with the Wraith. If you have 4, you can get all 
of the 3 other power monsters. Didn't see it from that angle so far.

Yes, I can change it to your suggestion.

5) No, I still haven't made the AI hints... so they don't go for them.
   I will send you a mail when I did it. 
   As said, right now I try to get Colossus working again,
   because since the august build for some players it hangs in 95% of the
   games, sooner or later.

-Clemens


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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

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>Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:11

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257b.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 13:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 22:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-06 23:10

Message:
I have recreated this with the 20081003 build from the Public Testing Build
page.

* A game completes normally.
* I select "Quit" from the end-of-game dialog.
* The game appears to exit normally; the Java Console window remains
open.
* After I close the Java Console window there is still a javaw.exe process
running.
* I launch the game again and start a new game.
* This time the game starts normally--the bug doesn't happen every time.
* I select "File -> New Game" and confirm that I want to quit the new game
I just started and start another new game.
* This time when I click "New Game" on the game startup dialog I get the
client connection window.

I have attached logs.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.06.2257a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 13:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 22:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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Feature Requests item #2135369, was opened at 2008-09-29 08:41
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cleka
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Category: None
Group: None
Status: Open
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary: Allow different starting creatures per color

Initial Comment:
This is only applicable to variants, but it might be nice if it were possible to configure the starting creatures separately for each color.
This together with custom mustering trees would allow variants with the equivalent of different races or factions for each color.
For example black might always start with undead creatures, whereas light brown always starts with plains creatures.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-06 11:28

Message:

Do you really mean different start creatures per *color*, not "by player"
?

By color would mean, ok, if I pick black, then I get undead, if I pick Red
I get ...whatever... .
(somewhat like on ACTS: if I pick Green I get color 100 but Red I get 500
or something).

So the one who has the opportunity to choose color has also more choices
which "familiy" of creatures to start with.

In this scenario the "which color gets what" would need to be defined
before the "New Game" button (in Game Setup dialog) is pressed. There could
be another tab "Special" or something...

---

Well, sounds like an interesting idea, ...like so many other ideas. 

Right now we / I worry more about getting a playable / stable version of
Colossus again, and after that....

Well, we can have this feature suggestion in the list, but until someone
stands up and takes the ball not much will happen. How about if you try to
implement something by yourself?  ;-)

-Clemens
 

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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by dmorenus
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including the initial issue submission, for this request,
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 13:25

Message:
I have a attached the contents of the Java Console from a typical run in
which the javaw.exe process does not close after the game is over and I
have selected the "Quit" option from the end of game dialog.
File Added: Colossus.2008.10.01.1326.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 22:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-15 01:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by cleka
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-10-01 08:45

Message:

Thankss, this is an excellent description and helps a lot.

> * I exit the game, and it appears to exit 
>   normally, though the Java Console window does not close.

Well it simply closes all windows (that's easy) but that does not say much
about the threads ;-)

> * I close the Java Console window.
> * If I now check the Task Manager, 
>   there is a javaw.exe process still running.

That is bad :-(

> * If I kill that process then everything works.

Naturally.

> * If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that 
>   the next time I launch the game I will get the Server startup
>   progress log and it will wait for clients to connect.

hm.... so somehow it does not release the socket, and then perhaps
the old process grabs some clients and sometimes the new one, random
or something...



Hm, as first aid I probably will make the main() do a real System.exit()
to forcefully exit the JVM. Note that this means (I guess) that also
the Console window will be gone with that.

And I will delete the old ExperimentalBuild and ExperimentalBuildWork
so there is only the Public Testing Build and the official Public Build
(not yet)...


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-10-01 07:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-10-01 03:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 23:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-30 01:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 23:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 08:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 17:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-15 09:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by dmorenus
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Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
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Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:40

Message:
bonnie_partiee, are you still unable to play the game after you use the
Task Manager to kill *all* the old javaw processes?

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 15:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by dmorenus
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Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
not just the latest update.
Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

>Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 21:38

Message:
I have encountered this bug while using the public testing build.
What I observe is:
* I exit the game, and it appears to exit normally, though the Java
Console window does not close.
* I close the Java Console window.
* If I now check the Task Manager, there is a javaw.exe process still
running.
* If I kill that process then everything works.
* If I do not kill that process then there is a good chance that the next
time I launch the game I will get the Server startup progress log and it
will wait for clients to connect.

I have attached the Java Console output from the new game process. 
Unfortunately I closed the Java Console for the old game last night when I
quit the game.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.30.2136.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 17:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 13:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 13:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-25 22:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 07:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-14 23:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


----------------------------------------------------------------------

You can respond by visiting: 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=101939&aid=2111020&group_id=1939

Bugs item #2111020, was opened at 2008-09-14 17:42
Message generated for change (Comment added) made by bonniee_partiee
You can respond by visiting: 
https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=101939&aid=2111020&group_id=1939

Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread,
including the initial issue submission, for this request,
not just the latest update.
Category: General
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: Accepted
Priority: 5
Private: No
Submitted By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Assigned to: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Summary: After game completed, start new one: clients don't come in

Initial Comment:
When I clicked on the "Done" button on the main board after the game ended, it displayed a dialog with several options--Quit, Start a new game, etc.  I selected "Start a new game" and it popped up the usual new game dialog.  After I selected "New Game" from that dialog, it did something it's started doing ever since the recent public release--it acted like it was waiting for a bunch of network clients to connect.  The only way I've been able to stop it from doing that once it gets started is to exit, and then use the Windows process manager to kill all the running javaw.exe processes.

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Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-30 19:04

Message:

   when starting a new game -
the clients window opens but does NOT receive AI clients
after 5 seconds it gives an error message -
but it will not quit or exit the window
 - I have to go in with win xp task manager
and manually end process javaw.exe

 I am completely unable to run colossus at this time
PLEASE can you guys fix this quickly ????

 I'm running win xp with jre1.6.0_01
on the public testing colossus and it's download jar
with the most recent colossus zip build installed
and of course I'm trying to play the BeezeGods 12 var
but it also does the same with the normal beezelbub var.

 ?????
bonniee

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-30 15:35

Message:
It turns out I was confused and running the Experimental build rather than
the Public Testing build.  I have switched to the Public Testing build.  I
will watch out for this problem happening again.

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-29 17:08

Message:

Which build do you run - the normal "official public build" or the "Public
Testing Build (and if the latter: from which page... "ExperimentalBuilds"
[=old] or "PublicTestingBuild" [=new]).

( => what version does it say in Help => About?)

One thing to try is to delete the Colossus-server.cfg file in Colossus
home directory (see Help => About for "what is the Colossus home
directory?").


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Comment By: mjr (bonniee_partiee)
Date: 2008-09-29 15:40

Message:

 I'm having the same problem -
after windows reboot, then start game -
and it sits and waits 5 seconds 
then gives an abort message 
and can't find any clients.

  I *haven't* changed anything in game options yet
it just started doing this last night ...... ???

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 00:52

Message:
File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301b.txt

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Comment By: Daniel  (dmorenus)
Date: 2008-09-26 00:51

Message:
I'm not sure how I managed to enter the duplicate bug.  I have closed it.
Here is a minimal account of how I reproduced it on 2008-09-22:
I killed all the javaw processes, started a game of Abyssal-9, decided I
didn't like the board, and selected "New Game" from the File menu.  I then
selected Abyssal-6 and pressed "New Game".  I got a message box saying:
"ConnectException ("Connection refused: connect") during creating Socket to
connect to 127.0.0.1:26567.
(This probably means: Either you have given wrong Server and/or port, or
tried it too early and server side wasn't up yet.)"
I got this window four times.  At the same time as the first occurrence of
that window, another window popped up saying "Starting up, waiting for 4
clients at port 26567"
I pressed that window's "Abort" button and it closed.  Then, a couple of
minutes later, the game creation window reappeared and this time I was able
to start my game successfully.
I have attached two versions of the Java Console output.  The first is its
state before the new game window reopened.  The second is after I
successfully used the new game window to start a new game.

This is the behavior I reported in the bug.  In the past I haven't seen
the new game window reopen after the long pause, probably because I go
fairly quickly to stop the javaw.exe processes.

File Added: Colossus.2008.09.22.2301a.txt

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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-16 09:04

Message:

BTW, if you have Java Web Start Console open, the javaw processes will 
not "terminate" themselves, until you close the console.

With Colossus itself I have done lot of work so that it *does* clean up
all threads and so on when a game is (cleanly) over; when something did
hang,
and/or as you describe above, it waits for clients but they don't come,
then there is clearly something *fishy* so then it's not so surprising
that it 
does not "Exit()" by itself. 

We could privide a "do the hard way exit" button somewhere (which does
then
the brutal System.exit()) if that helps...

(Closing the masterboard and say Close/Quit, and board does not go away,
selecting Quit a second time, you will get this "Nice Great" message
as in (your?) other bug report.

-Clemens


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Comment By: Clemens Katzer (cleka)
Date: 2008-09-15 01:21

Message:

For clarification:

Yes, it's waiting for clients, but not necessarily for network clients.
The architecture of the game is such, that all clients (local and remote
ones) connect via the socket. Only that, usually, if it's local clients,
this goes so fast, (and David has built in a 1-second-delay, so the window
would pop up until after one second, and not at all if it gets notified by
main prog to close again before the 1 sec is over), that you don't even see
it.

Try this: Start a game with 4 AIs, 1 network and 1 human. You will see the
same: waiting for 6 clients, 5 connect, then it continues to wait for the
network client. In this clean case the "Abort" button in bottom of
StartupProgress should work fine.


So you say also Abort does not work? Or, on abort it goes back to Game
Setup dialog, but for "New Game" same happens, and if you Quit from startup
dialog, it does not terminate, but you have to end it from the process
manager?

BTW, normally one Colossus application is one javaw.exe process. So if you
have several, I would guess they are artifacts from earlier started
Colossus runs. And they, for example, could in theory be the reason why no
clients come in.... they wait at the socket also, and if your clients try
to connect, they connect to those old server threads, not the freshly
started one. Although it's unlikely... just a theory.


Hmm....


-Clemens


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