Committing to Rust for kernel code

Posted Nov 25, 2023 13:19 UTC (Sat) by LtWorf (subscriber, #124958)
In reply to: Committing to Rust for kernel code by Wol
Parent article: Committing to Rust for kernel code

> Where's the difference? If it's GPL, commercially minded people won't use it, and you don't get anything back.

Wrong premise again? Since Safari and Android do in fact exist, it's rather easy to show that you are incorrect.

I will stop this here because there can be no agreement if we can't even acknowledge real facts.

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Committing to Rust for kernel code

Posted Nov 25, 2023 17:36 UTC (Sat) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (1 responses)

> > Where's the difference? If it's GPL, commercially minded people won't use it, and you don't get anything back.

> Wrong premise again? Since Safari and Android do in fact exist, it's rather easy to show that you are incorrect.

Yep, they exist. However, I can't speak for Safari/Apple because I have nothing to do with that ecosystem, but don't Apple refuse to have anything whatsoever to do with GPL3? And as for Android, doesn't Google have a ban on GPL user-space? Safari and Android look extremely like exceptions to me ...

> I will stop this here because there can be no agreement if we can't even acknowledge real facts.

To misquote PJ, when dealing with real life, facts are squishy. Heck, even with your two examples, the companies involved are openly hostile to the GPL - they don't have anything to do with it if they can help it .. (Unless, in Google's case, I suspect they're quite happy to dump abandoned projects as GPL ...)

Cheers,
Wol

Committing to Rust for kernel code

Posted Nov 29, 2023 12:30 UTC (Wed) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

> don't Apple refuse to have anything whatsoever to do with GPL3

Apple is not the whole world

In fact a *huge* number of companies (both on the producer and user side) have been using (AL)GPL for years and are starting to realise the “communist hell” FUD is just FUD. And they’re complaining Red Hat is not free enough.

The loudest free software promoters for years have not been @FSF but VC players that try to use dual licensing tricks and other open-source-enabled antifeatures to force their customers to do things they have no interest in.