iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale

Posted Nov 16, 2020 15:14 UTC (Mon) by imMute (guest, #96323)
In reply to: iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale by Conan_Kudo
Parent article: iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale

>There are a number of models where long-term supported distribution releases do not freeze the stack for the entire life of the release. Neither Red Hat Enterprise Linux nor SUSE Linux Enterprise do this, and clearly their customers aren't throwing pitchforks at them. If anything, they are asking for more updates and rebases! So clearly that's not it.

You're right. The difference is the word "Enterprise". The customers aren't throwing pitchforks because they're throwing cash. Cash that can be used to keep a long-term distribution stable AND keep it up to date.

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iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale

Posted Nov 16, 2020 22:28 UTC (Mon) by bluca (subscriber, #118303) [Link] (2 responses)

Debian doesn't get any cash, and yet there are daily updates to stable via -security and quarterly-ish via -updates. Of course they are targeted, contained and backward compatible updates - which is what users of an LTS distro want.

iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale

Posted Nov 21, 2020 5:31 UTC (Sat) by giraffedata (guest, #1954) [Link] (1 responses)

targeted, contained and backward compatible updates - which is what users of an LTS distro want.

I think a lot of users of an LTS distro want is just something without bugs. If you don't have a lot of money to spend finding and fixing bugs, the only way to get something without bugs is to keep it stable. Change it only to to fix bugs, and it will get less and less buggy as time goes on.

But if those users could have it all - modern function and no bugs - they would.

iproute2 and libbpf: vendoring on the small scale

Posted Nov 23, 2020 17:32 UTC (Mon) by Jandar (subscriber, #85683) [Link]

> I think a lot of users of an LTS distro want is just something without bugs.

If the user runs some important application not included within the distro a serious bug with this application could be introduced by a change in the distro. So LTS isn't only about a bug free distro but about bug free application+distro. From a user perspective any bug of my important application caused by a change in a LTS distro is a bug of the distro.