Show you the code?

Posted Apr 16, 2018 19:09 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
In reply to: Show you the code? by federico3
Parent article: Prospects for free software in cars

> If you patch your car the tests fails and you can still drive the car on a track
How do you make sure such cars do NOT drive on public roads?

> or seek legal validation (as people already do for modified cars)
That'd be a couple of million dollars.

> or send patches upstream to have them merged.
Yeah, sure.

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Show you the code?

Posted Apr 16, 2018 22:25 UTC (Mon) by federico3 (guest, #101963) [Link] (1 responses)

> How do you make sure such cars do NOT drive on public roads?

On an always-connected device, with onboard GPSes and maps and a dedicated checksum verification device?

>> or seek legal validation (as people already do for modified cars)
> That'd be a couple of million dollars.

And yet many critical systems have plenty of FLOSS on board and yet they receive approval and often blanket approvals for free for use in aeronautics & so on.

Random examples: the Linux kernel and BSD. They receive patches. Various organizations give approvals for special uses.

>> or send patches upstream to have them merged.
> Yeah, sure.

This comments are really not helpful.

Show you the code?

Posted Apr 16, 2018 23:14 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

> On an always-connected device, with onboard GPSes and maps and a dedicated checksum verification device?
None of this is required by law.

> And yet many critical systems have plenty of FLOSS on board and yet they receive approval and often blanket approvals for free for use in aeronautics & so on.
Automotive systems (never mind avionics) are rigorously tested before each release, with prolonged real-world testing on actual hardware. Presence of FLOSS on them is immaterial.

Show you the code?

Posted Apr 17, 2018 7:17 UTC (Tue) by NAR (subscriber, #1313) [Link]

How do you make sure such cars do NOT drive on public roads?

The same way you make sure people without licence do NOT drive on public roads. Random checks and if someone without licence causes a crash, give them extra fine.