Devuan Jessie beta released

Posted May 2, 2016 9:53 UTC (Mon) by jaromil (guest, #97970)
In reply to: Devuan Jessie beta released by anselm
Parent article: Devuan Jessie beta released

> file a bug report on the package in question, preferably with a patch that will fix the problem, not to fork the entire distribution.

I haven't tried that, but know people who have done that and it was leading to nothing. There are traces of such interactions on your bugtracker.

> The number of users who run non-standard init systems on Debian is expected to be fairly small

This assumption as been proven wrong by a deeper and independent analysis lead by Distrowatch.
I'm not just talking about this poll: http://distrowatch.com/polls.php?poll=8
But also of the analysis made on current updates to Debian 8 and packages used in there, as reported in this article http://www.pcweek.ru/foss/article/detail.php?ID=174973

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Devuan Jessie beta released

Posted May 2, 2016 10:15 UTC (Mon) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

I haven't tried that, but know people who have done that and it was leading to nothing. There are traces of such interactions on your bugtracker.

[Citation needed]

But also of the analysis made on current updates to Debian 8 and packages used in there, as reported in this article http://www.pcweek.ru/foss/article/detail.php?ID=174973

The only thing that analysis seems to prove is that people are generally happy with the default init system that their distribution provides. Also as I said, right now systemd and System-V init are both supported init systems within Debian, and it is totally possible to upgrade a Debian system to Jessie without having to move to systemd, so there's really nothing to see here. Some people may just be deferring the move, for whatever reason, even though they upgraded to Jessie. (The other thing the article seems to do, at least in Google's translation to German, is to call into question the necessity of a Debian fork à la Devuan, but maybe the original Russian says something else – my Russian isn't good enough to be able to tell.)

Devuan Jessie beta released

Posted May 2, 2016 17:33 UTC (Mon) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

> But also of the analysis made on current updates to Debian 8 and packages used in there, as reported in this article http://www.pcweek.ru/foss/article/detail.php?ID=174973
I speak Russian.

This article simply tells that people do not touch the default setting and very few people running oldstable (where sysv init was the default) had switched to systemd.

Duh.