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[Posted December 14, 2011 by corbet]

I've started using Gnome 3.2 on my main desktop 4 weeks ago, and while I came into it with prejudice and expected a rough ride, everything is surprisingly nice so far.

It's in fact the best (read: most usable, most intuitive) Linux desktop I've ever used for kernel development and maintenance work-flows. It gets out my way, tries to be there when I need it and takes usage ergonomy and UI consistency as seriously as Apple and Google does. Kudos.

-- Ingo Molnar

Your next patch series better come with perfectly spelled changelog entries that actually describe what the patches do, numbered properly (none of this 30/30 crap after a 00/29 series), not break the build (is that asking too much?) apply with no fuzz, and to help it all out, a home made holiday bread of your choosing, as long as it's fresh, and does not contain dried fruit bits (soaked in liquor can't hurt either.)

-- Greg Kroah-Hartman

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 3:13 UTC (Thu) by bojan (subscriber, #14302) [Link] (11 responses)

He, he... Turns out Ingo actually hardly uses "desktop":

> I'm a pretty boring desktop user in general: I spend 99% of my time in front of a full screen gnome-terminal reading code or email that shows exact zero UI elements - not even a scrollbar. So in theory it should be totally trivial and easy to make me happy: yet the last 10 years of the Linux desktop has been a non-stop series of usability annoyances to me ;-)

Of course Gnome 3.2 is then the best choice. It does single full screen apps with nothing else on really, really well. Hang on, isn't that what a text terminal is good at as well? :-)

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 6:12 UTC (Thu) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198) [Link] (7 responses)

Well one thing you can say about gnome, even if you don't like it, is that it is stable and well implemented

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 9:23 UTC (Thu) by hmh (subscriber, #3838) [Link]

That's not something to be proud of, that's something you are supposed to do in the first place, i.e. it is a reason to be ashamed of if you don't do it.

Stable and well implemented? We already had it in WindowMaker 10 years ago, and in fvwm for even longer.

Heck, you could abend wmaker and it would restart without any major loss of state (and no data loss)... so even if you did manage to make it segfault, it would not cause you trouble.

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 11:18 UTC (Thu) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link] (4 responses)

Until they started implementing half of it in JavaScript!

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 14:21 UTC (Thu) by lkundrak (subscriber, #43452) [Link] (3 responses)

That's a great decision. The code is beautiful (compare to glib code in C) and javascript interprets are blazingly fast these days.

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 14:45 UTC (Thu) by Seegras (guest, #20463) [Link] (1 responses)

JavaScript, as explained on http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-an...

"1995 - Brendan Eich reads up on every mistake ever made in designing a programming language, invents a few more, and creates LiveScript. Later, in an effort to cash in on the popularity of Java the language is renamed JavaScript. Later still, in an effort to cash in on the popularity of skin diseases the language is renamed ECMAScript."

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 17:38 UTC (Thu) by alexl (guest, #19068) [Link]

Yeah, because clearly that page implies that gnome should keep using C:

1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both forward and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix.

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Posted Dec 15, 2011 15:19 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

If JavaScript is better than your other code, then you have a serious problem.

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Posted Dec 18, 2011 14:17 UTC (Sun) by ssam (guest, #46587) [Link]

actually gnome 3.2 has been quite unstable for me in fedora. especially if you add any extensions. I guess that will get better with time though. Luckily the MATE guys are maintaining gnome2 until gnome3 is ready.

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Posted Dec 20, 2011 17:05 UTC (Tue) by robbe (guest, #16131) [Link] (2 responses)

I also use terminal programs a lot. Interestingly, gnome-term gets into *my* way a lot, occupying a lot of keyboard shortcuts that I would prefer to pass to the program running inside it. After landing in its menu a few times, I give up and install another terminal...

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Posted Dec 21, 2011 12:27 UTC (Wed) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (1 responses)

You can disable the menu in the preferences.

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Posted Dec 23, 2011 1:06 UTC (Fri) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link]

And you can disable or change the shortcuts too.

spelling

Posted Dec 15, 2011 18:33 UTC (Thu) by dougg (guest, #1894) [Link] (1 responses)

Hopefully Greg accepts perfectly _spelt_ changelog entries as well.

spelling

Posted Dec 15, 2011 19:18 UTC (Thu) by knobunc (guest, #4678) [Link]

Both spelled and spelt are correct. Spelled is preferred in the US. In the rest of the world it doesn't matter which you choose.