Berlios to shut down

Posted Sep 30, 2011 18:20 UTC (Fri) by ay (guest, #79347)
Parent article: Berlios to shut down

Well, there's always github.

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Berlios to shut down

Posted Sep 30, 2011 18:38 UTC (Fri) by jordi (guest, #14325) [Link] (11 responses)

Github doesn't run on free software, which is an important feature for some. Gitorious does.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Sep 30, 2011 23:23 UTC (Fri) by SEJeff (guest, #51588) [Link] (6 responses)

Github is actually maintained, unlike gitorious, which is important to some :)

Read these articles for some great insight into it:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-scm-interest&m=1276129572...
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2972107

The openoffice^Wlibreoffice doc attached to the email in the first link is pure gold as to why gitorious is not a very good platform. It is a real shame it isn't better maintained and managed as a project.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 8:30 UTC (Sat) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link] (1 responses)

I've read the references you pointed to and enjoyed them, but for what it's worth none of them suggested to me that Gitorious is not actually maintained. What I read is that contributors can have trouble getting their work in and that the project looks bad when compared to the pleasure to work with that is Sitaram.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 10:03 UTC (Sat) by Sho (guest, #8956) [Link]

As the author of both those links and a contributor to that ODF, nowhere did we intend to make the claim that Gitorious.org is unmaintained (although admittedly, I've seen fairly visible bugs in the web UI linger on for months at times).

Rather what those documents talk about is that the software as-is didn't live up to our specific needs, that we were unhappy with the state of the development community around it and that we had some architectural concerns. All of which should only matter to you if your requirement set matches ours :).

--Eike

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 9:27 UTC (Sat) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164) [Link] (3 responses)

The work done by KDE's sysadmins is good research, but realize that it is focusing on KDE's needs. Which are quite unique in terms of scope, amount of control, workflow etcetera.

So while for them, gitorious didn't work, it is fine for a vast majority of FOSS projects.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 2, 2011 16:06 UTC (Sun) by danieldk (guest, #27876) [Link] (2 responses)

For smaller projects, the network effect of Github is a huge advantage. Nearly all my developer friends are on Github, and I see a lot of forking and pull requests. I used Gitorious for some time (pretty much because of the same concerns), and it felt like a ghetto in comparison.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 2, 2011 17:20 UTC (Sun) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] (1 responses)

That's why I keep out of there. It's not a good idea to depend on a single (and proprietary) point of failure.

I generally host git trees on Gitorious. I also have my own simple git server, just in case.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 2, 2011 17:24 UTC (Sun) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

And one important thing I forgot: big thanks to BerliOS for providing the service up until now.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 6:10 UTC (Sat) by ay (guest, #79347) [Link] (1 responses)

Fair enough, though I suspect that most people want something that works reliably, has useful features, and is backed by a company that is invested in maintaining it and pays people to do that.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 12:54 UTC (Sat) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Well, Gitorious is maintained by a company, pays people to do that, works reliably and has useful features.

Berlios to shut down

Posted Oct 1, 2011 8:25 UTC (Sat) by jrn (subscriber, #64214) [Link]

Ok, ok. Well, there's always repo.or.cz.

nongnu Savannah

Posted Oct 3, 2011 10:16 UTC (Mon) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link]

There is also GNU's Savannah, which offers a public service called nongnu. It is of course hosted using Free software, and provides an excellent service; there is a manual approval step though.

Disclaimer: I am a Savannah admin on sabbatical. Hey, that sounds cooler than I can possibly be.