Removing the updated vulnerability listings

removal: +1

News about actual vulnerabilities and the like is highly valued. The distro package updates
are just distracting noise.

Honestly, I just press the "end" button when I've read the articles at the 
top. Removing the updated listings, and just leaving the new 
vulnerabilities section, would make me much more likely to skim through 
and check for anything that affects me.

I vote for either removal or maybe abridgement?  Turn it into its own 'article' with a short
summary at the top and then the full text with links below it, maybe?  Basically: hide it
behind a click-through.  This actaully would also let you count how many people dig that deep
(and therefore care about it) and so later decide whether it should be fully removed or maybe
even brought back to the front (if some large percentage of people are digging down to read
it).

+1 for removing it.

+1 for removal

me too, +1

May as well add one more to the list.  I've never read the thing and just skipped it.
+1 to remove

I admit that the detail data is overwhelming and that probably no better than a large block of
/lorem ipsum/ to most readers. Nevertheless, it must have some value to somebody, or some
theoretical or documentary value. LWN being close to a /newspaper of record/ for our
community, suggests to me that something like a summary report (with link to details) would be
useful.

Regards,
..jim

go and remove it

+2

when clicking on the comment link, i was expecting a huge amount of 
backlash to this proposal. i guess not...

to me, the security page, including the updated section, is definitively 
an important part of the weekly readings on lwn.net... but it could be a 
lot more usefull, if it showed its information more clearly (ie. show 
(only) what has changed).

BTW is there an API which exposes the security database, so that others 
can easily access this information? it would make benchmarking the 
different security teams really easy :)

+1 for removal of updated vulnerabilities 

Keep it, but move it to a separate page.

Asbjørn

I also support removing the updated vulnerability listings, 
however I would like to see some added functionality for 
the security page. 

With the current updated vulnerability listing one can discover 
that ones favourite distribution finally got around to fix that 
old bug, by screening the listing.
If/when it is removed, that will be harder.

If there could be a per package grouping in the security page,
I could at least easily check the status of an arbitrary package
quickly. I imagined a page per package, listing vulnerabilities
registered on that package name, along with the security status
for distributions.

+1 for removal

+1 removal

Remove it.  I just skip it anyway.

+1 for remove.
I read the new vulnerability listing every week, but skip the updated vulnerability portion of
the page. 

Perhaps a combining a couple of these suggestions: remove the page, and create a
subscribers-only web page that allows for searching of the database on the various data
elements.  This would make it easier to, for example, find recent "packageX" vulnerabilities
and when they were patched in which distribution.  Or for the research of security advisories
for "distributionY" over the past X days.  The links (as shown on the Security page) would
allow for drilling down.

  This would have the following benefits:

1) Shorten the Security page
2) Keep the information available
3) Provide added value to subscribers, possibly helping drive subscriptions.

Either move it to another page, or keep it but severely compress it (one line apiece).  
Updates can be important.

But I wouldn't really miss it if it disappeared completely, and it might make me more 
likely to look at the new-vuln list.  But I tend to rely more on my distribution for security 
updates that affect me.

I read the new vulnerabilities but general skim, at best, the updated ones.  An API or some
sort of interface would be much more useful that the current listing.  At worst, hide it
behind a separate page -- even for the bigpage format.

I support this change.  I regularly read the new vulnerability listings in order to learn
about issues in software that I have deployed, but once I know a vulnerability exists, I do
further tracking via other means than LWN.

Another vote for moving it from the Weekly Edition Security Page.  It think the information
probably still has enough value to be either on, or linked from, the regular Security section
(http://lwn.net/Security/)

I think it should stay with just the prior weeks vulnerabilities.  I get the distribution
updates from my distributions websites.  So I don't need to see the distribution updates.

I would like to have two weeks of vulnerabilities on hand.  Regrettably, sometimes I miss a
week and it's good to look thru and see what's been found.

shorter would be better, but please keep it.

I always look through the "New vulnerabilities".  But the updated ones, feel free to remove
that section.

I don't look at any of it, I admit. My distributions give me all the information I need when
they send me patches.

I think that the vulnerability listing isn't really "news", in the same sense that a stock
price ticker is not "news". But like those tickers, people find it useful information and it
is often provided by news sources.

For my own personal purposes, everything after the articles at the top (and sometimes at the
bottom) can go and make my life better. :)

I would like it removed too, although I do skim it. 

Maybe have a summary of the most interesting/important reports? <-- I would really like this
:)

remove it.

If you are processing the information automatically, I would see that as 
an candidate for a RSS feed.

No need to waste a separate page on the weekly edition if you can have an 
all time accurate RSS list.

+1 for removal. I often print LWN from "one big page" for offline reading, and this would
spare some dead trees, not to mention speeding up printing.

I subscribed lwn when I got Nokia 770 Internet Tablet. I use
770 to read stuff while going to work / going back home.

I copy big printable page to 770 and read it using fbreader.

It is the best format for handheld offline reading format lwn
currently offers (IHMO... btw is there any alternatives ;)

Still, I skip some of the stuff; vulnerability listings, 
kernel changes, events. However this requires some work to
notice when listings end.

Given this background, +1 for removing updated vulnerability
listings. Just one link to the listings would be fine. 

I'd like to have same applied to the other listings (I mentioned
above). Or some other way to improve lwn reading on mobile devices).

I never read the detailed listings, but I don't mind skipping past them 
either.