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Oops, sorry. My mistake. It turns out that I had an invalid TORCS_BASE
setting. I'm able to compile now.

On 10/25/06, Mrinal Kalakrishnan <li...@mr...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have this weird compilation problem. ./configure runs correctly, but
> when I run make, I just get this:
>
> $ make
> make: `Make-config' is up to date.
> $
>
> That's it. It doesn't try to compile anything. Any ideas? My system
> time and date seems fine..
>
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>


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Hi Mrinal

> I have this weird compilation problem. ./configure runs correctly, but
> when I run make, I just get this:
> 
> $ make
> make: `Make-config' is up to date.

Do you have a "MAKE_DEFAULT or TORCS_BASE environment variable set which points
to an old directory?

Bye, Bernhard.


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Hi,

I have this weird compilation problem. ./configure runs correctly, but
when I run make, I just get this:

$ make
make: `Make-config' is up to date.
$

That's it. It doesn't try to compile anything. Any ideas? My system
time and date seems fine..

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Hi all,

Is there any way to save an ongoing race in torcs?

Would it be possible to pause a race, save the parameters of the
players and track, and store it for later resuming?

In the meantime, would it make any sense to try using CryoPID Linux
process freezer (http://cryopid.berlios.de/) to create a snapshot of a
paused torcs race (http://sf.net/projects/torcs), that could be thawed
later?

Cheers,

     Albert.

Hi Bernard (and others),

Op zaterdag 21 oktober 2006 01:00, schreef Bernhard Wymann:
> Hi Mart
>
> Hmm, that's weird, the format thing should be fixed, but that could depend
> on the libpng header version, and the xmltok is for me system dependent (2
> systems with gcc 4.1.1, maybe the --enable-debug has something to do with
> this, this was the only significant difference).

For the code in tgfclient/img.cpp: there is now "%uld", which means that "%u" 
is replaced by an unsigned int and "ld" is printed after it. I think "%lu" is 
better here, because it means that "%lu" is replaced by an long unsigned int. 
At least here the types are long unsigned int.

About the xmltok warnings: I made (and attached) a patch which fixes the 
compile warnings here. It looks consistent with the surrounding code, but it 
is only a guess that this is the right solution. I also don't know if the 
patch works on all systems. The original code seems to come from expat, but I 
can't find a comparable diff in their version system.

This are only compile warnings which I think are not very harmfull. I think 
the ones in trackgen are worse.

> Thanks for the report, bye
>
> Bernhard.

Regards,

Mart

Hi Vicente

> I have found a little problem in the new track: ruudskogen.
> 
> The ruudskogen track seems to be very big (about 8 mb the acc file) and
> I can't race fluently (I can't get more than 12 frames per second,
> with the other tracks I can get 25 frames per second and race fluently).
> I test it with a quick race (with 12 oponents) and wtih a practise without
> oponents and in ruudskogen track I couldn't race fluently. 
> 
> I have test the same track in the torcs binary version for windows: 1.2.4

What was the result with 1.2.4, was it different (could be, because some car
models had a much lower poly count)?

> I'm running torcs on Windows XP professional with SP2, Processor: 2.4 GHz,
> 512 MB of RAM, Nvidea G-force4 64 MB and a sound target integrated
> with the mother board.

Ok, various things happened from 1.2.4 to 1.3.0:
- Some cars use much more triangles (e.g. lotus-gt1 from ~700 in 1.2.4 to ~4000
in 1.3.0).
- Texture size has been raised from 512x512 to 1024x1024 for some cars.


The performance depends heavily on these factors:
- The set of opponents you choose (high or low poly models, e.g for one
lotus-gt1 you can render 10 buggies in the same time).
- Your card has "just" 64MB memory, try in the TORCS options->OpenGL to enable
texture compression or/and texture downscaling. Uploading textures all the time
to the graphics card because of insufficient memory kills performance, if you
have a budget GeForce 4 MX with just a 64 bit memory bus less data will unload
the bus.
- Disable the rear mirror.


Specific to the "old" GeForce cards:
- Do not enable antialiasing.
- Do not enable in the driver anisotropic filtering, looks great, but costs too
much.
- Some graphics drivers had ugly problems, get a recent version.
- Set your screen color depth to 32 bits.

> Do you think that to play in this track (or other hi-resolution tracks)
> I must buy  poweful graphic card in order to race fluently (get a good
> number of frames per second)?

At least on my systems TORCS is NOT very sensitive on the graphics card, as long
as there is sufficient memory, I personally test with a GeForce 3, 5700, 6600go
and a 6800, and even an ancient TNT (ok, this is really slow, but still playable
with a few cars)).

The GeForce 3 does well, as long as there is sufficient memory to hold the
textures. You can find the limit by adding one car each run and at a certain
point the performance goes down badly. Then you need to enable texture
compression or/and downscaling to add more cars.

> Another question is the telemetry in torcs. I have seen in the sources the folder
> torcs-1.3.0/src/modules/telemetry
> but in the windows binary  version 1.3.0 this interesting option is not available.
> Is avalilable the telemetry on the linux version? 

Without a GUI it does not help joe average, so it is disabled on both platforms
by default.

> We have to compile this telemetry program and run wiht torcs?
> The telemetry will be available in a near future for TORCS (linux and windows)?

No. I hope it will be available in ~2 years. Just short my plan (this is not a
promise!):
- basic network multi player mode
- adding more and more features to that

There are other things in discussion which will lead to results, but are not my
top priorities, so I will not mention them here;-)

Bye, Bernhard.

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Hi Mart

> There are some compiler warnings in gcc 4.1.1. They are reported a year ago to 
> the torcs-devel mailing list[1], although I would suggest another patch (it 
> is attached). The behavior is undefined[2], so I can't know for sure what the 
> indented behavior is.
> 
> There also are a few (4) warnings about "missing braces around initialzer 
> for 'unsigned char[256]' in src/libs/txml/xmltok.c and two 
> warnings "format '%u' expects type 'unsigned int'" (about arguments three and 
> four) in src/libs/tgfclient/img.cpp, but they look less harmfull.

Hmm, that's weird, the format thing should be fixed, but that could depend on
the libpng header version, and the xmltok is for me system dependent (2 systems
with gcc 4.1.1, maybe the --enable-debug has something to do with this, this was
the only significant difference).

Thanks for the report, bye

Bernhard.

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I at all people that is testing the new version of torcs v1.3.0.
I tinks that is a good version and thanks to all people that have
worked on this new version.

I have test the binary version for windows: 1.3.0

I have found a little problem in the new track: ruudskogen.

The ruudskogen track seems to be very big (about 8 mb the acc file) and
I can't race fluently (I can't get more than 12 frames per second,
with the other tracks I can get 25 frames per second and race fluently).
I test it with a quick race (with 12 oponents) and wtih a practise without
oponents and in ruudskogen track I couldn't race fluently. 

I have test the same track in the torcs binary version for windows: 1.2.4


I'm running torcs on Windows XP professional with SP2, Processor: 2.4 GHz,
512 MB of RAM, Nvidea G-force4 64 MB and a sound target integrated
with the mother board.

The set up of the torcs binary version for windows: 1.2.4 is: 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

<params name="Screen">
  <section name="Screen Properties">
    <attnum name="x" val="800"/>
    <attnum name="y" val="600"/>
    <attnum name="bpp" val="24"/>
    <attstr name="fullscreen" in="yes,no" val="no"/>
    <attnum name="gamma" val="2"/>
    <attnum name="window width" val="800"/>
    <attnum name="window height" val="600"/>
    <attnum name="maximum refresh frequency" val="75"/>
    <attstr name="video mode init" val="best"/>
  </section>


<params name="Graph">
  <section name="Graphic">
    <attnum name="smoke value" val="300"/>
    <attnum name="smoke interval" val="0.01"/>
    <attnum name="smoke duration" val="2"/>
    <attnum name="skid value" val="20"/>
    <attnum name="skid length" val="300"/>
    <attnum name="skid interval" val="0.05"/>
    <attnum name="fov factor" unit="%" val="100"/>
    <attnum name="LOD Factor" val="1"/>
  </section>


<params name="sound" type="param" mode="mw">
    <section name="Sound Settings">
        <attstr name="state" val="openal"/>
        <attnum name="volume" unit="%" val="100"/>
    </section>
</params>


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Do you think that to play in this track (or other hi-resolution tracks)
I must buy  poweful graphic card in order to race fluently (get a good
number of frames per second)?

If the problem can be solved with a powerful graphic card I will buy a new
one in order to play with  hi-resolution tracks. 

(I'm making formula 1 trakcs and cars and if the new tracks can be 
as big as the ruudskogen I will increase the resolution of the 
formula 1 track: my first project is the Barcelona Spain (montmelo) 
track. http://www4.uji.es/~al063357/tutorials/torcs/
Moreover I'm developing a forum to get people involved in this project of
making f1 tracks and cars, now it has no contents but the adress is:
http://s8.createphpbb.com/f1torcs/  ).



I think this is important because other peple can have the same problem
and maybe to run in this track we will need a better grapic card (maybe
128 mb or 256 mb).

So maybe we have to add  int the section of the FAQ a new entry for very
hi-resolution traks.

2.2.2 Driving yourself.
Minimum: 550MHz CPU, 128MB RAM, OpenGL 1.3 compatible graphics card with 32 MB RAM.
Recommended: 800MHz CPU, 256MB RAM, OpenGL 1.3 compatible graphics card with 64 MB RAM. 


Another question is the telemetry in torcs. I have seen in the sources the folder
torcs-1.3.0/src/modules/telemetry
but in the windows binary  version 1.3.0 this interesting option is not available.
Is avalilable the telemetry on the linux version? 
We have to compile this telemetry program and run wiht torcs?
The telemetry will be available in a near future for TORCS (linux and windows)?

The telemetry on torcs will increase the quality of the game and the car simulator
will be more real. If the telemetry is available in a near future it will be great.


I hope that my comments about this new test version of torcs help to develop this nice game.

Thanks to read this.

--------------------------------
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Hi Bernard (and others),

Op dinsdag 17 oktober 2006 23:44, schreef Bernhard Wymann:
> Hi all
>
> If there is something really broken with 1.3.0-test1 or the current CVS it
> is time to speak now. If nobody steps up I will release 1.3.0 after some
> more testing around the end of October.

There are some compiler warnings in gcc 4.1.1. They are reported a year ago to 
the torcs-devel mailing list[1], although I would suggest another patch (it 
is attached). The behavior is undefined[2], so I can't know for sure what the 
indented behavior is.

There also are a few (4) warnings about "missing braces around initialzer 
for 'unsigned char[256]' in src/libs/txml/xmltok.c and two 
warnings "format '%u' expects type 'unsigned int'" (about arguments three and 
four) in src/libs/tgfclient/img.cpp, but they look less harmfull.

I haven't found a not-reported bug so far.

> Bye, Bernhard.

Regards,

Mart

[1] 
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8400911&forum_id=3774
[2] http://c-faq.com/expr/evalorder1.html

Hi all

If there is something really broken with 1.3.0-test1 or the current CVS it is
time to speak now. If nobody steps up I will release 1.3.0 after some more
testing around the end of October.

Bye, Bernhard.

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Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb

Damned.xml; damned 7:        
 <attstr name="car name" val="pw-evovwrc"/>

damned/7: porsche-gt1.rgb

damned/7/car.xml:
<params name="Porsche GT1" type="template" mode="mw">

Everything exept damned.xml implies that damned 7 is a porsche gt1 and damned 7 is quite fast also. Should it be a porsche?

I searched this a little but haven't found anything, am I the first to mention this here?

More on damned: I have found that they perform a little bit saner if you increase the max pressure on the brakes section 3 times or so.


Regards
Kennet

Hi Melvin

> I am facing some problems when I try to compile torcs on my laptop which is 

Which version? If you try 1.2.4 read this:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1458349&group_id=3777&atid=103777

> running on Mandriva 2007. Attached is my config log file.

I cannot see any attachment:-( Another error might be that you have a newer
version of OpenAL than required/tested (IIRC they split OpenAL from ALut). If
this does not help please send the error report with attachment;-)

Bye, Bernhard.


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Hi to all!
I would to know how i can export the position and rotation data of car 
body and wheels to a text file, is it possible?
The rotation should be quaternions or world xyz....
Is it possible to import tracks created with 3dsmax?
Thanks in advance to all.....


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Now that Stephan mentions this, I would like to ask if it would be
possible (and easy) to have more fine grained speed limit.

On 10/10/06, St=E9phan Kempkes <ske...@xs...> wrote:
> I'm starting some machine learning tests with TORCS, but haven't found ou=
t
> a way to increase the simulation speed to more than 4x. Is there a way to
> increase the speed more, preferably with the only limit the speed of the
> processor? And can visualization be dis- and enabled during these tests a=
s
> well? It would surely increase the learning a lot.
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I'm starting some machine learning tests with TORCS, but haven't found out
a way to increase the simulation speed to more than 4x. Is there a way to
increase the speed more, preferably with the only limit the speed of the
processor? And can visualization be dis- and enabled during these tests as
well? It would surely increase the learning a lot.

Hi,

I am facing some problems when I try to compile torcs on my laptop which is 
running on Mandriva 2007. Attached is my config log file.

Regards
Mel

Le Dim  8 oct 06 =E0 15:38:06 +0200, Bernhard Wymann <be...@bl...>
 =E9crivait=A0:
> Hi all

Hello,

> TORCS 1.3.0 is now available for download, visit www.torcs.org for detail=
s.

On FreeBSD, the following patch is necessary:

--- patch-src_modules_graphic_ssggraph_Makefile begins here ---
--- src/modules/graphic/ssggraph/Makefile.orig  Wed Jul 20 03:52:30 2005
+++ src/modules/graphic/ssggraph/Makefile       Mon Oct  9 23:37:51 2006
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@

 MODULEDIR =3D modules/graphic

-LIBS      =3D -lplibsl -lplibsm -lplibsg -lplibssg -lplibul -lplibssgaux -=
lopenal
+LIBS      =3D -lplibsl -lplibsm -lplibsg -lplibssg -lplibul -lplibssgaux -=
lopenal -lalut

 SHIPDIR   =3D config

--- patch-src_modules_graphic_ssggraph_Makefile ends here ---

Without it, ssggraph does not load, due to missing symbols.

No other problem, great work!
--=20
Th. Thomas.

Hi all

TORCS 1.3.0 is now available for download, visit www.torcs.org for details.

Bye, have fun,

Bernhard.

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