torcs-users Mailing List for TORCS - The Open Racing Car Simulator

Hi all,

We (http://iglu-cat.net) are aiming to prepare a CD/DVD with a set of
selected OSS games, and one of them, of course, will be TORCS. 
This CD/DVDs will be distributed, free of charge, in computer shops and
schools in our area.

I was wondering if all the data packages, for tracks, cars, and drivers,
in TORCS, are redistributable without any problem.

Thanks in advance,

Bests,

    Albert.

i tried torcs -s + installed proprietary drivers from matrox. the
quality of textures is not so fine now but i get satisfactory
performance.

thanks.

cheers,

-- jose


On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:55:29 +0100, Bernhard Wymann <be...@bl...> wrote:
> Hi Jozef
> 
> > i just installed torcs 1.2.3-bw-unofficial-test4. it is running fine
> > except for the fact that i am getting very low fps (1-2 maybe) on
> > 640x480 resolution. the game is playable from 360x200 down. iirc this
> > was not the case w/ previous (non-test). i used to play the game on
> > 640x480 flawlessly. other openGL using games (enemy territory) are
> > working fine.
> >
> > Visual Properties Report
> > ------------------------
> > z-buffer depth: 16 (bad)
> > multisampling : no
> > alpha bits    : no
> 
> Other things to try:
> - Desktop with another depth (16 bpp, 24 bpp).
> - Switch back to compatible in the display settings.
> 
> Bye, Bernhard.
> 
> --
> 
> Visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org
> Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb
> 
>

Hi Jozef

> i just installed torcs 1.2.3-bw-unofficial-test4. it is running fine
> except for the fact that i am getting very low fps (1-2 maybe) on
> 640x480 resolution. the game is playable from 360x200 down. iirc this
> was not the case w/ previous (non-test). i used to play the game on
> 640x480 flawlessly. other openGL using games (enemy territory) are
> working fine.
> 
> Visual Properties Report
> ------------------------
> z-buffer depth: 16 (bad)
> multisampling : no
> alpha bits    : no

Other things to try:
- Desktop with another depth (16 bpp, 24 bpp).
- Switch back to compatible in the display settings.

Bye, Bernhard.

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Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb

Hi Jozef

> i just installed torcs 1.2.3-bw-unofficial-test4. it is running fine
> except for the fact that i am getting very low fps (1-2 maybe) on
> 640x480 resolution. the game is playable from 360x200 down. iirc this
> was not the case w/ previous (non-test). i used to play the game on
> 640x480 flawlessly. other openGL using games (enemy territory) are
> working fine.

Possible problems:
- Multiple OpenGL libraries installed and linked against software OpenGL 
implementation.
- Multitexturing not supported in hardware, start with "torcs -s" to 
disable multitexturing.
- Perhaps plib changed a texture setting (previous release used 1.6.0, 
now 1.8.3), matrox driver falls back to software (e.g. texture border).

Driver limitations:
http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/DRIuserguide.html

Bye, Bernhard.

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hello,

i just installed torcs 1.2.3-bw-unofficial-test4. it is running fine
except for the fact that i am getting very low fps (1-2 maybe) on
640x480 resolution. the game is playable from 360x200 down. iirc this
was not the case w/ previous (non-test). i used to play the game on
640x480 flawlessly. other openGL using games (enemy territory) are
working fine.

Visual Properties Report
------------------------
z-buffer depth: 16 (bad)
multisampling : no
alpha bits    : no

thanks.

cheers,

-- joe

Hi Jozef

> sorry, my bad.. should've read README first..

Does it work now?

Bye, Bernhard.

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Hi Jozef

> Visual Properties Report
> ------------------------
> Compatibility mode, properties unknown.
> /usr/bin/torcs: line 52: 14065 Segmentation fault     
> $LIBDIR/torcs-bin -l $LOCAL_CONF -L $LIBDIR -D $DATADIR $*
> 
> plib-1.8.4-I386
> x11-6.8.1
> matrox g550
> slackware 10.0 + few packages from -current

Did you run "make datainstall"? If yes, please configure with "configure 
--enable-debug", rebuild and reinstall, and start torcs with "torcs -d" 
and post the backtrace. You can as well try to run it without 
multitexturing, "torcs -s".

Possible reasons:
- Not read the README and the FAQ.
- Broken system setup.
- Matrox driver bug.
- plib 1.8.4 (it is just tested with 1.8.3).
- Multiple incompatible GLU libraries on slackware.
- Mix of libraries (64/32 bit, tls, no tls, etc) (what architecture??).
- ...

Bye, Bernhard.


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hello,

i compiled torcs ver 1.2.3-bw-unofficial-test4 and get this message
when executed:

Visual Properties Report
------------------------
Compatibility mode, properties unknown.
/usr/bin/torcs: line 52: 14065 Segmentation fault     
$LIBDIR/torcs-bin -l $LOCAL_CONF -L $LIBDIR -D $DATADIR $*

plib-1.8.4-I386
x11-6.8.1
matrox g550
slackware 10.0 + few packages from -current

any ideas what's going wrong here?

thank you.

cheers,

-- joe

Thanks for the reply, I have just this past few minutes manage to
install it on another Fedora Core 2 computer where the textures appear
to be working properly..  Now I'll have to get at it and compare
what's different between the two computers.. (Yum repository?
something updated on one that's not on the other? hardware?)

fun.. 

thanks for the reply.. I'll try out the AC3D stuff too..

James Meriwether wrote:
> Hello all, I've just installed torcs onto Fedora Core 2 using yum, and
> I've been playing with it a little bit.  One oddity is that the car
> textures are completely scrambled..  I opened up the .rgb cars, such
> as acura-nsx-sz.rgb or kc-gullwing.rgb and others.
> 
> First I was confused that the nsx skin was really an rsx skin (???),

Yes, but it's nice ;-)

> and then was surprised to see a completely different layout in the
> kc-gullwing.rgb file.  This game is obviously handling skins/textures
> very differently than I'm used to, but it all seems to be screwed up.

The texture mapping is completely linked to the 3D object, so it's not
surprising that the textures for different cars look very different.
I recommend that you open the .ac files with AC3D and look at the texture
mapping, it will help you understand how it works.


> I have checked about 6 cars now from historic, to rally, to
> what-have-you, and none of the skins/textures are showing up right.
> 
> What's going on? Where have I gone wrong?
> 
> Thanks much for any help!
> 

I have seen one day on a laptop that the textures were broken in the game,
it was on Windows.
I don't remember the graphic card, but I did not found a proper
rotation/flip of the texture to get a correct mapping.
I suspect a problem in the OpenGl driver, try to update yours.
The screen-shot function was not even giving what was displayed...


Eric.
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=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
               TORCS - http://torcs.org
             The Open Racing Car Simulator
         AKA The Other Release Coming Soon (Skin'r)
            How soon is soon ? (RaceBlizter)
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

Hello all, I've just installed torcs onto Fedora Core 2 using yum, and
I've been playing with it a little bit.  One oddity is that the car
textures are completely scrambled..  I opened up the .rgb cars, such
as acura-nsx-sz.rgb or kc-gullwing.rgb and others.

First I was confused that the nsx skin was really an rsx skin (???),
and then was surprised to see a completely different layout in the
kc-gullwing.rgb file.  This game is obviously handling skins/textures
very differently than I'm used to, but it all seems to be screwed up. 
I have checked about 6 cars now from historic, to rally, to
what-have-you, and none of the skins/textures are showing up right.

What's going on? Where have I gone wrong?

Thanks much for any help!

Hi all

For those who are interested there is a new unofficial TORCS test
release available, you find more information and the link on the TORCS
page (www.torcs.org). The changes are not yet in the CVS, I will
probably start merging back the "compatible" changes towards the end of
February or beginning of March (there are CVS-incompatible changes which
break simuv3, because the current CVS breaks simuv2...).

Bye, Bernhard.


-- 

Visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org
Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb

Hi all

For those who are interested there is a new unofficial TORCS test 
release available, you find more information and the link on the TORCS 
page (www.torcs.org). The changes are not yet in the CVS, I will 
probably start merging back the "compatible" changes towards the end of 
February or beginning of March (there are CVS-incompatible changes which 
break simuv3, because the current CVS breaks simuv2...).

Bye, Bernhard.


-- 

Visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org
Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb

Thank.

I didn't understood the var : version.
I thook it was the version of my files. :-\
I think that I would get by now.

Thank you
Speedy


Eric Espie a =E9crit :

> Yes, but you'll have to use accc to generate a multitextured ac3d file.
> Note that the generated file can only be used by TORCS, so if you want
> to make some modifications keep the ac file handy.
>
> look in e-track-2.xml or spring.xml to have the track-side camera=20
> definition
>
> The version in the header is different, you'll find version 3 and=20
> version 4
> files, they have incompatible formats.
> As mentionned before, look at an example to understand the file format.
> You can look at the track how-to written by Christos Dimitrakakis:
>
> http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/torcs/track-howto.html
>
> plus dig into the mailing list to get info on track format.
>
> Eric.



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SpeedyChonChon wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> - Can we superimpose several textures ? For an exemple one for bump and 
> one for traces and shadows.

Yes, but you'll have to use accc to generate a multitextured ac3d file.
Note that the generated file can only be used by TORCS, so if you want
to make some modifications keep the ac file handy.

> - I would like to edit cameras (for F8 and F9 and F11, I think) for my 
> track but even after the changes in .xml file there is only one camera 
> which is the one of F6.

look in e-track-2.xml or spring.xml to have the track-side camera definition

> I see that some track use a section named "Track Segments" and others a 
> section named "segments". My one uses "segments" but when I put "Track 
> Segments" I have a segmentation fault.

The version in the header is different, you'll find version 3 and version 4
files, they have incompatible formats.
As mentionned before, look at an example to understand the file format.
You can look at the track how-to written by Christos Dimitrakakis:

http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/torcs/track-howto.html

plus dig into the mailing list to get info on track format.


> 
> Can somebody help me ?
> Thank.
> 
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Eric.
-- 
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=
               TORCS - http://torcs.org
             The Open Racing Car Simulator
         AKA The Other Release Coming Soon (Skin'r)
            How soon is soon ? (RaceBlizter)
=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

Hi SpeedyChonChon

> - Can we superimpose several textures ? For an exemple one for bump and 
> one for traces and shadows.

Not that way exactly, but perhaps you can abuse the 2nd shadowmap as 
kind of camera position/direction indepenent bump map... Look at 
g-track-3 as example.

> - I would like to edit cameras (for F8 and F9 and F11, I think) for my 
> track but even after the changes in .xml file there is only one camera 
> which is the one of F6.

Hmm, did you use as track version 3 or 4? I think the earlier format did 
not support cameras around the track.

> I see that some track use a section named "Track Segments" and others a 
> section named "segments". My one uses "segments" but when I put "Track 
> Segments" I have a segmentation fault.

:-) Its all a bit touchy, yes... Without the file I cannot help much, I 
can just recommend to look at the other tracks, that's it, sorry.

Bye, Bernhard.


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Visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org
Official TORCS racing: The TORCS Racing Board, http://www.berniw.org/trb

Hi all.

- Can we superimpose several textures ? For an exemple one for bump and 
one for traces and shadows.
- I would like to edit cameras (for F8 and F9 and F11, I think) for my 
track but even after the changes in .xml file there is only one camera 
which is the one of F6.
I see that some track use a section named "Track Segments" and others a 
section named "segments". My one uses "segments" but when I put "Track 
Segments" I have a segmentation fault.

Can somebody help me ?
Thank.

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