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Hi all

I built today the 1.3.1-test1 installer for Windows. When I am done with the 
Linux packages and some rudimentary testing I will release it, so expect the 
packages within the next two weeks.

The 1.3.1-test1 package will not yet contain updated documentation, I will take 
care of this while the public is testing. test1 does not yet contain the updated 
dirt 1 track (I will most likely include it) and some great car textures (I have 
first to ask the creator for the release terms).

Bye, Bernhard

Hi Christos

>>> I will try and clean up some of the code bloat before merging this 
>>> olethros with the release branch.
>>
>> Much too late, please do not touch it, it is almost final. That is 
>> actually the reason why this branch exists, to avoid such nice 
>> "surprises".
>>
> 
> OK, thanks for letting me know.
> 
> I'll check out the branch just for testing it in that case.

Great, thank you for testing.

Bye, Bernhard

Bernhard Wymann wrote:
> Hi Christos
> 
>> I will try and clean up some of the code bloat before merging this 
>> olethros with the release branch.
> 
> Much too late, please do not touch it, it is almost final. That is actually the 
> reason why this branch exists, to avoid such nice "surprises".
> 

OK, thanks for letting me know.

I'll check out the branch just for testing it in that case.

Hi Christos

> I will try and clean up some of the code bloat before merging this 
> olethros with the release branch.

Much too late, please do not touch it, it is almost final. That is actually the 
reason why this branch exists, to avoid such nice "surprises".

Bye, Bernhard

Oh, a quickie:

Which cars are we allowed to use in the release branch?

Christos Dimitrakakis wrote:
> I have committed a fix for olethros in the main branch -- it seems to 
> solve a big problem with learning.  It has to do with how the 'effective
> road friction' is used when calculating the break distance.  I have now 
> fixed it.
> 
> I will try and clean up some of the code bloat before merging this 
> olethros with the release branch.
> 
> 
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I have committed a fix for olethros in the main branch -- it seems to 
solve a big problem with learning.  It has to do with how the 'effective
road friction' is used when calculating the break distance.  I have now 
fixed it.

I will try and clean up some of the code bloat before merging this 
olethros with the release branch.

Hi All

Apart from the packaging, build system and one patch to review (and eventually 
apply) the state on r1-3-1 represents the 1.3.1-test1 release. So I guess I will 
start with the packaging and installers next week.

Bye, Bernhard

Hello Vincente,

thanks for your great tutorial, it helps me a lot! Yes indeed stripe was
missing. I compiled it and 
copied it to /usr/local/bin so accc could find it. Now everything works
fine. Soon i will drop you
a line with some hints about your tutorial that may help to improve
it :)

Thanks!



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Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 15:41 +0000 schrieb Vicente Marti:

> Hi Bart, first of all thanks to read my tutorial and congratulations
> for your work on tracks, the logo... good job!!
> (I will add this explanation in the tutorial)
> 
> The message you whe you execute:
> 
> accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1 300 -S 300 -es
> 
> But at this combine i get the error:
> sh: stripe: not found                  
> /usr/games/accc: line 31: 19173 Segmentation fault      $LIBDIR/accc-bin
> $*
> 
> Means that you need to install stripe because is needed by accc. 
> 
> http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/
> 
> You need to download the stripe.tar.gz from
> http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/stripe.tar.gz
> 
> Then to install stripe in ubutnu or any linux distribution:
> 
> tar -zxvf stripe.tar.gz
> cd Stripe
> make
> sudo cp stripe /usr/local/bin/
> 
> 
> Now you have installed stripe  in your ubuntu.
> If someone want stripe for windows, stripe.exe
> can be donwloaded from http://www.esnips.com/web/f1torcs
> (stripe.zip, unzip and copy stripe.exe into the same directory where is  placed accc.exe
> (from your torcs installation
> directory)
> 
> 
> Now you can execute 
> accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1 300 -S 300 -es
> without any problem.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Vicente
> 
> 
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> Subject: [Torcs-devel] Help needed on Dirt-1 shadow map
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> after i started last year to polish
> "Dirt-1" (http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs) and studied
> now 
> the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial  (thanks Vincente!), i tried to add a
> shadow map to Dirt-1 too. I'd like to get a
> real rock'in Dirt-1 for 1.3.1 finished.
> 
> First i adjusted the colors and added other details using Blender, then
> i exported the track using the 
> TORCS exporter for Blender.
> 
> Like Vincente described (http://usuarios.lycos.es/f1torcs/tutorial) i
> added shading without any problem:
> accc +shad test-bak.ac test-shade.ac
> 
> and try to combine shading and track:
> accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1
> 300 -S 300 -es
> 
> But at this combine i get the error:
> sh: stripe: not found                  
> /usr/games/accc: line 31: 19173 Segmentation fault      $LIBDIR/accc-bin
> $*
> 
> What does that mean? What do i wrong? Is there a problem using an
> original and tiled track?
> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Hi Bart, first of all thanks to read my tutorial and congratulations
for your work on tracks, the logo... good job!!
(I will add this explanation in the tutorial)

The message you whe you execute:

accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1 300 -S 300 -es

But at this combine i get the error:
sh: stripe: not found                  
/usr/games/accc: line 31: 19173 Segmentation fault      $LIBDIR/accc-bin
$*

Means that you need to install stripe because is needed by accc. 

http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/

You need to download the stripe.tar.gz from
http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~stripe/stripe.tar.gz

Then to install stripe in ubutnu or any linux distribution:

tar -zxvf stripe.tar.gz
cd Stripe
make
sudo cp stripe /usr/local/bin/


Now you have installed stripe  in your ubuntu.
If someone want stripe for windows, stripe.exe
can be donwloaded from http://www.esnips.com/web/f1torcs
(stripe.zip, unzip and copy stripe.exe into the same directory where is  placed accc.exe
(from your torcs installation
directory)


Now you can execute 
accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1 300 -S 300 -es
without any problem.


Hope this helps.

Vicente



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Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:49:24 +0200
From: "Eckhard M." J?ger <ba...@ne...>
Subject: [Torcs-devel] Help needed on Dirt-1 shadow map
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Hi,

after i started last year to polish
"Dirt-1" (http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs) and studied
now 
the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial  (thanks Vincente!), i tried to add a
shadow map to Dirt-1 too. I'd like to get a
real rock'in Dirt-1 for 1.3.1 finished.

First i adjusted the colors and added other details using Blender, then
i exported the track using the 
TORCS exporter for Blender.

Like Vincente described (http://usuarios.lycos.es/f1torcs/tutorial) i
added shading without any problem:
accc +shad test-bak.ac test-shade.ac

and try to combine shading and track:
accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1
300 -S 300 -es

But at this combine i get the error:
sh: stripe: not found                  
/usr/games/accc: line 31: 19173 Segmentation fault      $LIBDIR/accc-bin
$*

What does that mean? What do i wrong? Is there a problem using an
original and tiled track?
I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.

Thanks!

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Hello Bernhard,

of course i will make all my artwork available under the free art
license including:
- my work on the Dirt-1 track
- my work on Alpine-1 track
- my updated back light and back fire textures
- my splash


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Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 00:36 +0200 schrieb Bernhard Wymann:

> Hi Eckhard
> 
> > last year i started to refresh the track Dirt-1
> > (http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs)
> > now i studied the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial and adjusted the colors of
> > the new Dirt-1 again.
> > 
> > After compiling Stripe i get shadowmaps too and created a real lovely
> > looking track Dirt-1 that can ship
> > with TORCS 1.3.1. You can grab it here (8.1mb):
> > http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-dirt-1-2008.zip
> 
> I will review it soon. I just opened up the package, the textures look nice. It 
> seems that you did not adjust the readme.txt, so I assume we can release the 
> track under the free art license (did you shoot/create the material for the 
> textures by yourself or can you ensure that they are compatible with the free 
> art license)? Can you please confirm or deny this?
> 
> The same question to your splash screen, are you willing to release it under the 
> free art license?
> 
> > Any feedback is welcomed. If i could get CVS access i would upload it (+
> > my texture and Alpine-1 improvements) 
> > into the current 1.3.1 branch.
> 
> No. Too much woes with "shoot me in the ass" commits.
> 
> Bye, thank you
> 
> Bernhard
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Hi Eckhard

> last year i started to refresh the track Dirt-1
> (http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs)
> now i studied the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial and adjusted the colors of
> the new Dirt-1 again.
> 
> After compiling Stripe i get shadowmaps too and created a real lovely
> looking track Dirt-1 that can ship
> with TORCS 1.3.1. You can grab it here (8.1mb):
> http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-dirt-1-2008.zip

I will review it soon. I just opened up the package, the textures look nice. It 
seems that you did not adjust the readme.txt, so I assume we can release the 
track under the free art license (did you shoot/create the material for the 
textures by yourself or can you ensure that they are compatible with the free 
art license)? Can you please confirm or deny this?

The same question to your splash screen, are you willing to release it under the 
free art license?

> Any feedback is welcomed. If i could get CVS access i would upload it (+
> my texture and Alpine-1 improvements) 
> into the current 1.3.1 branch.

No. Too much woes with "shoot me in the ass" commits.

Bye, thank you

Bernhard

Hello,

last year i started to refresh the track Dirt-1
(http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs)
now i studied the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial and adjusted the colors of
the new Dirt-1 again.

After compiling Stripe i get shadowmaps too and created a real lovely
looking track Dirt-1 that can ship
with TORCS 1.3.1. You can grab it here (8.1mb):
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-dirt-1-2008.zip

Any feedback is welcomed. If i could get CVS access i would upload it (+
my texture and Alpine-1 improvements) 
into the current 1.3.1 branch.
 

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Hi,

after i started last year to polish
"Dirt-1" (http://my.opera.com/area42/blog/drive-on-torcs) and studied
now 
the 20-Minutes-Track-Tutorial  (thanks Vincente!), i tried to add a
shadow map to Dirt-1 too. I'd like to get a
real rock'in Dirt-1 for 1.3.1 finished.

First i adjusted the colors and added other details using Blender, then
i exported the track using the 
TORCS exporter for Blender.

Like Vincente described (http://usuarios.lycos.es/f1torcs/tutorial) i
added shading without any problem:
accc +shad test-bak.ac test-shade.ac

and try to combine shading and track:
accc -g test.acc -l0 test-bak.ac -l1 test-shade.ac -d3 1000 -d2 500 -d1
300 -S 300 -es

But at this combine i get the error:
sh: stripe: not found                  
/usr/games/accc: line 31: 19173 Segmentation fault      $LIBDIR/accc-bin
$*

What does that mean? What do i wrong? Is there a problem using an
original and tiled track?
I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.

Thanks!

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Hello,

i fixed some small bugs and adjusted the to yellow lightning:
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-splash-3d_final.png

I tried to adjust the red too but this let the TORCS logo look like
plastic
and will distroy the athmosphere. Take a look at yourself:
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-splash-3d_final2.png


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Very nice ! Thank you !

Am Donnerstag, 7. August 2008 19:53:58 schrieb Eckhard M. Jäger:
> Hi,
>
> in the fight against the texture uglies in TORCS i created a cool
> background for Alpine-1 road track.
> As required this is free art, so it can shipped with TORCS 1.3.1 . I
> modified the background colors und
> background type of the alpine-1.xml too.
>
> Both can be downloaded here:
> http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1.zip
>
> Here is a preview of the new background:
> http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1-background.png
>
>
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Hi,

what car you ever prefer and drive you will always see the backlights
and the backfire.
I studied various pictures of them and improved the textures of them for
1.3.1:
data/textures/breaklight1.rgb
data/textures/breaklight0.rgb
data/textures/fire1.rgb
data/textures/fire0.rgb

They can be grabed  here:
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-textures.zip


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Thanks :)

BTW i like your track they are really amazing!
Just the tunnel of Alpine-2 is for my taste to dark and need some lights
like this:
http://www.osram.de/_global/img/Professional/ECG_&_LMS/E12_Teaser_Picture_Big_152x136/t8_anw_tunnelbeleuchtung_152x136.jpg

But overall really great work too!


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Am Freitag, den 08.08.2008, 09:00 +1000 schrieb Andrew Sumner:
> Great work, thanks!  I hope this gets into 1.3.1...
>  
> cheers
> Andrew
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: Eckhard M." Jäger [mailto:ba...@ne...]
>         Sent: Friday, 8 August 2008 3:54 AM
>         To: tor...@li...
>         Subject: [Torcs-devel] Alpine-1 Improvement
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         Hi,
>         
>         in the fight against the texture uglies in TORCS i created a
>         cool background for Alpine-1 road track. 
>         As required this is free art, so it can shipped with TORCS
>         1.3.1 . I modified the background colors und 
>         background type of the alpine-1.xml too.
>         
>         Both can be downloaded here:
>         http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1.zip
>         
>         Here is a preview of the new background:
>         http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1-background.png
>         
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>         

Hi,

in the fight against the texture uglies in TORCS i created a cool
background for Alpine-1 road track. 
As required this is free art, so it can shipped with TORCS 1.3.1 . I
modified the background colors und 
background type of the alpine-1.xml too.

Both can be downloaded here:
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1.zip

Here is a preview of the new background:
http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-alpine-1-background.png


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Hi Jean-Philippe

> Currently downloading r1-3-1 branch from CVS, I realize
> that some great cars have disapeared since r1.3.0
> (gt40, lotus-gt1, clkdtm, ...).

Correct.

> Just to understand, and help if I can, what is the reason for that ?
> - too much work to tune them against SimuV2 and other related changes ?
> - more generaly, too much work to maintain them along Torcs evolutions ?
> - some copyright / brand protection issues ?

Mostly this. I want to get rid of all stuff which could cause legal trouble over 
time, but this will take some more releases. Beware, the trb cars are more or 
less replacements for the skipped cars.  There is still some stuff I want to 
replace  in a later releases:
- F1 category/car will be renamed
- The remaining original car names will disappear (does not apply for the rally 
and kc cars, because these are "external" contributions and are tagged as non 
free, important for distributors, e.g. Debian), here "change" list: 155-DTM, 
acura-nsx, cg-nascar-rwd, p406, sc-f1.

The 155-DTM and acura-nsx will be adopted to the trb1 category (look and 
performance), the 155-DTM successor will still be 4wd. The mclaren-f1 will get a 
trb1 successor as well, but it will look significantly different.

One big reason to do the change was as well to have a bunch of cars which are 
"balanced" opponents, to get really tough races, the removed cars performance 
was just to different, the same applies for the model quality.

So in the "free" car collection I would like to have:
- 10 trb1 cars.
- some open wheel cars (similar to the sc-f1 or Andrews/Vincentes pieces)
- Some american style touring cars (1-4 models, at least one replacement for the 
existing one)
- Updates to the buggy and baja-bug
- Update the p406

That's the direction, but the car set is fixed now for 1.3.1, the proposed 
changes will come later.


Bye, Bernhard

Hi, Bernhard, and all.

> Texuring of the trb1 cars is done, now I will head on to the next step.
> 
>> I am working on the finishing touches of release 1.3.1, you can check out the 
>> branch r1-3-1 to get a preview and to test it. To the developers: please do not 
>> commit to this branch!
>>
>> Missing bits (I am currently working on this):
>> - Nice textures for trb1 cars
>> - Windows bat files
>> - Installer
>> - Packaging
>> - Cleanup
>>
>> So I guess the 1.3.1-test1 will come in a few weeks.

Currently downloading r1-3-1 branch from CVS, I realize
that some great cars have disapeared since r1.3.0
(gt40, lotus-gt1, clkdtm, ...).

Just to understand, and help if I can, what is the reason for that ?
- too much work to tune them against SimuV2 and other related changes ?
- more generaly, too much work to maintain them along Torcs evolutions ?
- some copyright / brand protection issues ?
- ... ?

Thanks in advance.

Jean-Philippe.

Eckhard,

> Is there a difinition of the TORCS-Red?

Euh ... may be there is no "official" one, as far as Torcs's style is concerned,
but I was just thinking about the red colour used into the 2 Torcs icon files :
Ticon.png and Ticon-t.png.

But this is just quibbling ... ;-) You made a very nice work.

Jean-Philippe.

Hello Jean-Philippe,

thanks for the feedback.

2 minor remarks :

> - the red you used is not exactly the Torcs's style one
>    (too Ferarri, isn't it ? ;-)

Is there a difinition of the TORCS-Red?

> 
> - the tires are not enough black.

Jep, i will change it. Another 3D artist gave me the same hint.


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Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 12:22 +0200 schrieb Annick et
Jean-Philippe:

> Hi, Eckhard, and all.
> 
> Great job !
> 
> The curved T seems good for me.
> And I also prefer the angle of view you used on your blog.
> 
> 2 minor remarks :
> - the red you used is not exactly the Torcs's style one
>    (too Ferarri, isn't it ? ;-)
> - the tires are not enough black.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jean-Philippe.
> 

Hi, Eckhard, and all.

Great job !

The curved T seems good for me.
And I also prefer the angle of view you used on your blog.

2 minor remarks :
- the red you used is not exactly the Torcs's style one
   (too Ferarri, isn't it ? ;-)
- the tires are not enough black.

Cheers,

Jean-Philippe.

Hi all

> no problem to provide a DVD, CD cover as pdf. But is this really needed
> for a game 
> shipping via the web?

No. Anyway, I do not tell anybody what to do with its time.

> I think it would be more important getting some binaries for beta
> testing and may 
> killing some ugly backgrounds and textures.

This will come...

Bye, Bernhard

Hello Matteo,

Am Montag, den 04.08.2008, 14:19 +0200 schrieb Matteo Lucchesi:

> > shipping via the web?
> it's an idea! if it cost about 5 dollars some player like me can buy it to 
> help the project but i think that the 1.3.1 version isn't ready.

If some adds the infra structur for that on the webside, no problem to
create a CD or DVD
    cover (justa question what's the content?).

> 
> I would propose to reduce the number of car and track so we can focus our 
> attention on less things. 

Instead of reducing tracks and cars we must improve the existing cars
and tracks to make a
good gaming experience available. 

Besides a much better look and feel i think we really need the network/
internet play feature. 

In the time of internet communities and online games such a feature
would let the TORCS 
community grow. A growing community would bring more power users/
artists and developers 
and this would let TORCS getting better (GLSL-Shader) in shorter time.




> 
> sorry for my English.
> 
> On Monday 04 August 2008 13:18:41 "Eckhard M." Jäger wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > no problem to provide a DVD, CD cover as pdf. But is this really needed
> > for a game
> > shipping via the web?
> >
> > I think it would be more important getting some binaries for beta
> > testing and may
> > killing some ugly backgrounds and textures.
> >
> > :)
> >
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> >_
> >
> > Fünf Tage auf eine Waffe warten ist nicht zu wenig.
> >
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> > |
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> > |
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> >
> > C      _)
> >
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> > |   /           SweeTS delicious Typo3 development -
> > | http://typo3.area42.de/
> >
> > /   \
> >
> > Am Samstag, den 02.08.2008, 17:24 +0000 schrieb Vicente Marti:
> > > I think the new splash is good and I like it.
> > >
> > > I think the curved T is good.
> > >
> > > I was thinking that we can make a CD cover or a DVD cover with
> > > this wonderful splash image.
> > >
> > > I searched the sizes oin internet (in order to make a image with
> > > the correct aspect ratio):
> > >
> > >
> > > DVD:  http://www.a1cds.co.uk/dvd/images/amaraycover.gif
> > >
> > > CD: http://www.printingforless.com/images/CDSpecs.gif
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you think about make a cd cover for torcs?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > > i finalized the splash:
> > > http://files.myopera.com/area42/files/torcs-splash-3d_final.png
> > >
> > > Now everything is 100% free art and is made by myself (prev. Version was
> > > just a draft).
> > >
> > > TWO QUESTIONS:
> > >
> > > Should be there a motion or radial blur again?
> > > Bernhard would prefer a straight T at the top. Skinnr itself, the
> > > original
> > > artist of the TORCS loogo like the curved one (like me :) ). What would
> > > you prefer?
> > >
> > > I'm counting on your feedback :)
> > >
> > > BTW: The resolution is now 1440x900, i sclaed it down a little bit from
> > > 1920x1200 to get
> > > the natural unsharpen look. It has now a file size of 1.8mb.
> > >
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