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From: <net...@ho...> - 2004-06-29 19:23:36
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<html><div style='background-color:'> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>So, if I understod well, there are two ways of make track with objects.</P> <P>* One way: Improve edit my scenary with a 3D-modeler. I used AC3D v4.0.8 and TORCS fails when it tries to read it. I have triangulate the circuit (actually I think it wasn´t necesary since I have modified only one vertice of a-speedway) like is described in <A href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/189">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/189</A>. Also I know there is a problem with this version of the AC3D modeler, but I could´nt find the 'crease' lines. I used the notepad to find them. Is it known another problem that I don´t know? Did I make something wrong?</P> <P>* The second way: with the object-mapX.png. I tried to find those files in TORCS 1.2.2 (object-map1.png and object-map2.png) to have a look at them, but I could´nt, and I tried in the binary version and in the other. Also, nothing happens if in the xml file I change the 'object-mapX.png' by another word (whatever) so I´m a little bit lost. </P> <P> What I want to do is to introduce some traffic light, so I need not only to introduce the object, but also to change the textures of it when it turns red or green or orange. I think that it could be similar to the LOD textures changes. I say this becouse I want to know if is possible to make it if I introduce the object in whatever of this two ways, or should I used one of them better.</P> <P>Thanks. </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE id=8f5ebac3><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>_____________________</P> <P>Manuel Pecero Rodríguez.</P> <P><A href="mailto:net...@ho...">net...@ho...</A></P> <P><A href="mailto:man...@bu...">man...@bu...</A> </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Amor <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAES/2755??PS=47575">Busca tu ½ naranja</a> </html> |
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From: Bernhard W. <be...@bl...> - 2004-06-25 18:22:23
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Hi Manuel > ok, but is the following correct? In every game there are some threads. At No, in TORCS there is just one single thread (at least at the moment), the one of the main process. The drive functions of the robots are called sequentially of the TORCS race engine, all at the same simulation time with the same tSituation structure. > least one for the human and one (or more, I dont know) for the robots. In order > to resolve my problem I should implement the "multi-thread Singleton Pattern". > isn´t it? > > if not, the problem whit the Singleton Pattern is the same, isn´t it? That is, > in each instance of the class we could ask for only a number of objects, but in > differents instances (one per thread?)..... From your writing I guess that you develop with Windows, do you? If yes, you have perhaps to list the variables you want to export in the whatever.def file of the dll and declare it as extern. IMHO it is quite nifty to work with static variables in dll's/so's, because on different systems the initialization works different... bye, Bernhard. -- visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org |
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From: <net...@ho...> - 2004-06-25 16:54:15
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<html><div style='background-color:'><TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P> </P> <DIV>ok, but is the following correct? In every game there are some threads. At least one for the human and one (or more, I dont know) for the robots. In order to resolve my problem I should implement the "multi-thread Singleton Pattern". isn´t it?</DIV> <P>if not, the problem whit the Singleton Pattern is the same, isn´t it? That is, in each instance of the class we could ask for only a number of objects, but in differents instances (one per thread?).....</P> <DIV>thank you </DIV></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE id=e78455df> <P><BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>_____________________</P> <P>Manuel Pecero Rodríguez.</P> <P><A href="mailto:net...@ho...">net...@ho...</A></P> <P><A href="mailto:man...@bu...">man...@bu...</A> </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>>From: Christos Dimitrakakis <dim...@id...> >To: Manuel Pecero Rodríguez <net...@ho...> >CC: <tor...@li...> >Subject: Re: [Torcs-devel] Comunication betwen the human and the robots >Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:11:09 +0200 (MEST) > >On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, [iso-8859-1] Manuel Pecero Rodrguez wrote: > > > > > I use the human.obj to link the robot. Ok, and what happend? It looks > > like if each part (one the robot and the other the human) was watching > > diferents instances of the Flags static attribute, but the attribute > > is an static attribute. The human part always watch the initial value. > > > >How do you know that both the human and the robot refer to the same >instance of the Flag class? The attribute might be static within the >class instance, but that does not mean anything. For example, in >berniw, mycar.cpp defines a lot of static variables which are >different still for each instance. What you should do is implement >some kind of singleton, which basically means a single object, or a >number of references to the same identical object. > > >-- >Christos Dimitrakakis >IDIAP (http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/main.html) > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. >Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - >digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, >unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com >_______________________________________________ >Torcs-devel mailing list >Tor...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/torcs-devel </BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Amor <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAES/2755??PS=47575">Busca tu ½ naranja</a> </html> |
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From: Christos D. <dim...@id...> - 2004-06-25 14:11:18
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, [iso-8859-1] Manuel Pecero Rodr=EDguez wrote: > > I use the human.obj to link the robot. Ok, and what happend? It looks > like if each part (one the robot and the other the human) was watching > diferents instances of the Flags=B4 static attribute, but the attribute > is an static attribute. The human part always watch the initial value. > How do you know that both the human and the robot refer to the same instance of the Flag class? The attribute might be static within the class instance, but that does not mean anything. For example, in berniw, mycar.cpp defines a lot of static variables which are different still for each instance. What you should do is implement some kind of singleton, which basically means a single object, or a number of references to the same identical object. --=20 Christos Dimitrakakis IDIAP (http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/main.html) |
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From: <net...@ho...> - 2004-06-25 13:59:23
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<html><div style='background-color:'><TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>Hi,</P> <P> I´m trying to comunicate the human and a modificated berniw´s tutorial robot. I want to make it with flags. What I´ve done is a new class called Flags in the same proyect than the human. The Flags class has an static variable. My idea is to modificate the static atribute from the human and to read it in the robot. I read it in the update method to modificate an atribute of the robot. </P> <P> I use the human.obj to link the robot. Ok, and what happend? It looks like if each part (one the robot and the other the human) was watching diferents instances of the Flags´ static attribute, but the attribute is an static attribute. The human part always watch the initial value.</P> <P>Does anybody knows what´s happening? What am I forgetting?</P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE id=e1520f7a>thank you<BR><BR> <DIV> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>_____________________</P> <P>Manuel Pecero Rodríguez.</P> <P><A href="mailto:net...@ho...">net...@ho...</A></P> <P><A href="mailto:man...@bu...">man...@bu...</A> </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>Las mejores tiendas, los precios mas bajos, entregas en todo el mundo, YupimMSN Compras: <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBES/2731??PS=47575">Haz clic aquí</a> </html> |
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From: Bernhard W. <be...@bl...> - 2004-06-23 18:55:21
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Hi Manuel
> I would like to know how to make tracks with objects. I saw some xml files of
> tracks with trees (for exemplo) and it sais that it has objects, but it does not
> say where they are. Maybe it has to be designed whith the relief with AC3D.
> Can anybody tell me how to do?
Look for example into the file dirt-1.xml and objects-map1.png. Like you
can see in the objects.xml the objects are encoded as color dots. So you
have to:
1. Create an object map (png-image), look up the colors for the objects
in object.xml (you have just to place the dots with the right colors).
2. Define the <!ENTITY default-objects SYSTEM
"../../../data/tracks/objects.xml"> at the beginning of your file
3. Define your object map(s)
<section name="Object Maps">
<section name="map 1">
<attstr name="object map" val="objects-map1.png"/>
</section>
<section name="map 2">
<attstr name="object map" val="objects-map2.png"/>
</section>
</section>
Btw, alternatively you can edit and improve your scenery with a
3D-Modeler, e. g AC3D or Blender. Have also a look into Christos "track
how-to" (http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/torcs/track-howto.html) and the
following mailings:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/17
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/175
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/177
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/188
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/189
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.games.torcs.devel/178
Modelers:
- www.blender.org (free, ac3d supported)
- www.ac3d.org ($40, ac3d native)
- moonlight3d.net (free, ?)
- innovation3d.sourceforge.net (free, ?)
bye, Bernhard.
--
visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org
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From: Bernhard W. <be...@bl...> - 2004-06-23 18:20:40
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Hi Christos > Hm.. it has been quite quiet lately.. anyway. For the car damages, I Yep, very quiet. At the moment I am working on a PHP Web Application to organize races according to the rule draft. That is not very exciting but it needs a lot of time anyway... Then I have still some experiments in the pipeline for TORCS itself like phong specular highlights, OpenGL feature test and configuration and some other minor stuff. > would like to add scratch marks to the car if possible. If I traverse > the sg hierarchy, I guess I can find the surfaces and textures and > write on them directly, but maybe it is easier to have yet another > texture blended on top which has the scratchmarks and I can change its > alpha channel. Do you think there is some other way to do it? Dynamic textures are quite expensive if you do not create them directly on the GPU (which is just possible with quite recent hardware), so you should add them like decals with multitexturing or multipass rendering. bye, Bernhard. -- visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org |
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From: Bernhard W. <be...@bl...> - 2004-06-23 18:16:20
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Hi Manuel > Does anybody have problems to play in the tracks using the object.xml file? > Actually the problem isn´t when I´m going to play. The problem happens in the > configuration section, when I click on the ref to see the next track and that > track is one that uses the object.xml file. Some of these tracks are b-speedway, > c-speedway, e-speedway.... > > The console output is not special. > > "GfParmReadFile: Opening 'tracks/oval/b-speedway/b-speedway.xml' " > > A window appears to me and say "The instruction at ... referenced memory at ... > . The memory could not be written" Hmm, I had similar problems when I copied around TORCS. Have you tried to remove the "archive" flag recursively on the whole file tree and making all file executable? bye, Bernhard. -- visit my homepage http://www.berniw.org |
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From: <net...@ho...> - 2004-06-23 17:12:21
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<html><div style='background-color:'><TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>I would like to know how to make tracks with objects. I saw some xml files of tracks with trees (for exemplo) and it sais that it has objects, but it does not say where they are. Maybe it has to be designed whith the relief with AC3D. Can anybody tell me how to do?</P> <P>thank you.</P> <P>Ohhh, I sent a mail before and the body doesn´t apeear so I´ll say it again: </P> <P>Actually the TORCS in my computer cannot chosse a track with objects and I don´t know why. It breaks trying to read the xml file of the track. I´ve tried with the binary version of TORCS and with the other version and I couldnt do it. It is under W2K. However, I tried in another computer under WXP and I´ve no problem. I´m not saying that the reason is the OS, becouse I´ve worked a lot in the W2K computer and it´s possible (quite possible) that I´ve done some wrong modification. </P> <P>Thanks</P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE id=48f6eb8f><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>_____________________</P> <P>Manuel Pecero Rodríguez.</P> <P><A href="mailto:net...@ho...">net...@ho...</A></P> <P><A href="mailto:man...@bu...">man...@bu...</A> </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>Las mejores tiendas, los precios mas bajos, entregas en todo el mundo, YupiMSN Compras: <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMBES/2746??PS=47575">Haz clic aquí...</a> </html> |
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From: <net...@ho...> - 2004-06-23 15:48:00
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<html><div style='background-color:'><TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P><BR>Does anybody have problems to play in the tracks using the object.xml file? Actually the problem isn´t when I´m going to play. The problem happens in the configuration section, when I click on the ref to see the next track and that track is one that uses the object.xml file. Some of these tracks are b-speedway, c-speedway, e-speedway....</P> <P>The console output is not special. </P> <P>"GfParmReadFile: Opening 'tracks/oval/b-speedway/b-speedway.xml' "</P> <P>A window appears to me and say "The instruction at ... referenced memory at ... . The memory could not be written" </P> <P>It happens to me in the binary version and in the 'final' version.</P> <P>I´m working in W2K.</P> <P>Thank you.</P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <BLOCKQUOTE id=c44d3134><BR><BR><BR> <DIV> <TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <TBODY> <TR height="100%" UNSELECTABLE="on" width="100%"> <TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width="100%" background="" height=250 UNSELECTABLE="off"> <P>_____________________</P> <P>Manuel Pecero Rodríguez.</P> <P><A href="mailto:net...@ho...">net...@ho...</A></P> <P><A href="mailto:man...@bu...">man...@bu...</A> </P></TD></TR> <TR UNSELECTABLE="on" hb_tag="1"> <TD style="FONT-SIZE: 1pt" height=1 UNSELECTABLE="on"> <DIV id=hotbar_promo></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></div><br clear=all><hr>Las mejores tiendas, los precios mas bajos, entregas en todo el mundo, YupiMSN Compras: <a href="http://g.msn.com/8HMAES/2746??PS=47575">Haz clic aquí...</a> </html> |
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From: Christos D. <dim...@id...> - 2004-06-23 13:22:07
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Hm.. it has been quite quiet lately.. anyway. For the car damages, I would like to add scratch marks to the car if possible. If I traverse the sg hierarchy, I guess I can find the surfaces and textures and write on them directly, but maybe it is easier to have yet another texture blended on top which has the scratchmarks and I can change its alpha channel. Do you think there is some other way to do it? -- Christos Dimitrakakis IDIAP (http://www.idiap.ch/~dimitrak/main.html) |