infinitetyler
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I can't believe this movie is real. It's like something that would be a parody on 'The Boys'. Between the script, music, acting and direction I keep expecting someone to yell "Cut!" and then it's revealed Falcon is filming a movie for the government.
Also Falcon isn't a great hero from a design standpoint. He's adding on the Captain America shield and the Stark tech and it feels like digging to the bottom of the toy box to find something for your off-brand action figure. Idk about using 70 year old Gus Fring and 80 year old Harrison Ford as action stars, and to appease the PC police let's simply say some of the other casting decisions are "questionable".
I saw 'The Falcon & Winter Soldier', but that was years ago, and it wasn't good enough for me to remember, so most of that is lost on me. They also keep referencing stuff I watched-but-didn't-care-about like 'Black Widow', 'Wakanda Forever' and 'The Eternals', as well as Hulk movies from 10+ years ago.
The film seems to have had several plots written for it, but never figured out which 5 to narrow it down to. Tonally it's all over the place- sometimes it wants to be a summer blockbuster, other times a tone-deaf social commentary with dated politics.
The ending is cringe-inducing. There's nothing good to say about this movie; I guess it's better than 'Quantumania', 'The Marvels' and probably 'Thor Love & Thunder'. And it's short.
Also Falcon isn't a great hero from a design standpoint. He's adding on the Captain America shield and the Stark tech and it feels like digging to the bottom of the toy box to find something for your off-brand action figure. Idk about using 70 year old Gus Fring and 80 year old Harrison Ford as action stars, and to appease the PC police let's simply say some of the other casting decisions are "questionable".
I saw 'The Falcon & Winter Soldier', but that was years ago, and it wasn't good enough for me to remember, so most of that is lost on me. They also keep referencing stuff I watched-but-didn't-care-about like 'Black Widow', 'Wakanda Forever' and 'The Eternals', as well as Hulk movies from 10+ years ago.
The film seems to have had several plots written for it, but never figured out which 5 to narrow it down to. Tonally it's all over the place- sometimes it wants to be a summer blockbuster, other times a tone-deaf social commentary with dated politics.
The ending is cringe-inducing. There's nothing good to say about this movie; I guess it's better than 'Quantumania', 'The Marvels' and probably 'Thor Love & Thunder'. And it's short.
'Thunderbolts*' wasn't bad, however I wouldn't go so far as calling it "amazing" or "awesome". I liked that it didn't follow the traditional Marvel format, and I would even argue it being a Marvel film is ultimately what hurt it the most. The tie-ins were more of a distraction than universe-building, and while the "Marvel humor" or "Whedon writing" was lighter than other entries, most of those jokes didn't land.
The action and fight scenes aren't bad, but some of them seemed unnecessary to prove that the heroes are heroes, but the movie also seems confused about whether the heroes are heroes, and since we don't see the heroes being particularly villainous in the movie it's almost like they're including the extra scenes, not for the audience, but so the film can feel better about itself. It's a strange contrast from 'Ironheart', where we see the "hero" constantly doing bad things while being told she's amazing.
The cast does an above-average job at presenting as an ensemble, although it's clearly a Florence-led venture. Elayne is pretty insufferable, which may be the point, but I'm also tired of her popping up in everything and talking about other shows and movies.
I think that if this wasn't a Marvel movie and it was just 5 random super soldiers in a sci-fi film that 'Thunderbolts*' likely would have cost less and been a better movie, but FWIW it's not a bad watch.
The action and fight scenes aren't bad, but some of them seemed unnecessary to prove that the heroes are heroes, but the movie also seems confused about whether the heroes are heroes, and since we don't see the heroes being particularly villainous in the movie it's almost like they're including the extra scenes, not for the audience, but so the film can feel better about itself. It's a strange contrast from 'Ironheart', where we see the "hero" constantly doing bad things while being told she's amazing.
The cast does an above-average job at presenting as an ensemble, although it's clearly a Florence-led venture. Elayne is pretty insufferable, which may be the point, but I'm also tired of her popping up in everything and talking about other shows and movies.
I think that if this wasn't a Marvel movie and it was just 5 random super soldiers in a sci-fi film that 'Thunderbolts*' likely would have cost less and been a better movie, but FWIW it's not a bad watch.
