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This version of EICHMANN (as a biography, biographical, or as any of the several excellent documentaries about his trails) apparently has a dream cast and technical crew to make the "definite" EICHMANN "fictionalized" film. Was Thomas Kretschmann born to play the perfect Nazi of our nightmares and dreams, or what?
Well, here his "Naziness",in total contrast to his brief but impactive appearance in Polanski's THE PIANIST, and in DER UNTERGANG (as Hitler's brother-in-law)is a waste. It's a waste because the script of the film is horrible. His stereotype Nazi features would have been better spent in the USA 1960's sitcom HOGAN'S HEROES.
I live in Brazil and have spent a good part of my life here, in Argentina and in Germany, though I'm American and grew up in the 60s when WWII was still as fresh as the collapse of the USSR is now. So, any well-rounded movie fan from this area (or news junkie) would have as a compulsory experience, followed on radio and TV (no cable back then) the before & post-war antics of these Eichamnns, Klaus Barbies and their cohorts.
Now, I sat through a 5 or 6 hour film in Berlin in 1998 or 1999 (or was it two 4 hour sittings)of the COMPLETE Eichmann trial in Israel. The documentary was a "big release" as Documentaries go. It was playing in several art cinemas in Berlin, one near the Memorial Church, another in Kreuzberg,and in the Oranienburgerstrasse "art film multiplex" where I saw it.
If anyone knows which film I'm talking about, please submit as anew title or e-mail me. It is not any of the options this site gives: (Displaying 8 Results) 1.The Man Who Captured Eichmann (1996) (TV) 2."Adolf Eichmann 2003) (TV) aka I Met Adolf Eichmann" - UK 3."L'Hidato Shel Adolf Eichmann" (1994) 4.Operation Eichmann (1961) 5. Eichmann Trial (1961) (TV) 6. "Eichmann and the Third Reich" (1961) 7. The Trial of Adolf Eichmann(1997) (TV) 8. Witnesses to the Holocaust-the Trial of Adolf Eichmann(1987)(TV).
I thought it was Number 7 (the 1997 TV version), but it's too short and has a moderator, which the long film I saw lacked). Anyway, with that film as DEFINITE, REAL and irrefutable genuine human emotion, tragedies, and wrecked lives revealed, WHY make a feature film?
Well, as the list of seven above show, there was no shortage of "Eichmann films" when this film was shot, and released. And it has been released. In the Rio Festival, EICHMANN had 4 screenings in the main large cinemas, and was held over for a third week of "Last Chance For the Best of Rio" which ended last week. And the copy had burned subtitles in French, with electronic Portuguese subtitles below the screen. So, it has been somewhat shown around the world.
As this looks like a probable straight to DVD release. I had never even read about the filming of this feature, which also (mis) casted the German (but dark and with a star power name) Franka Potente as the Israeli's prosecutor's wife in one of the boring and pointless subplots. Potente, like everyone else including Eichmann, only spoke English, though she and her Prosecutor husband had met in France, and supposedly spoke French with each other.
But not a word of German, Yiddish, French or Hebrew is heard.
FINE. English is the international language. But this being a criminal court case movie, with loads of depositions, at least one of the victims could have spoken in the 4 major languages related to the case. Just for effect, like Arien Brody's attempts at German in the PIANIST, for some authenticity, with English, though not one of the four languages related to the case, as the main language, but not as-the language spoken 100% of the time!
Anyway, there is a "real film" with authentic testimony from the actual victims in their mother tongues, plus a couple of hours in Austrian-accented German deposition Eichmann gave. That documentary was basically in Hebrew, but both sides staunchly used their national identity languages. Eichmann spoke only German, and the Israeli prosecutor, judges, and victims did too - but chose to ask in Hebrew (so the crowd could understand apparently). Thus the translations to French, English, Russian & Yiddish, which I'm counting here as German added to an already long documentary, in black & white, with no visual power film of it all, two sets of subtitles running all the time. It was difficult to watch, but authentic, and a real treasure, something this EICHMANN is not.
Again, the hours of the real trial is what you should look for. The Israeli Prosecutor was not a gorgeous and elegant leading man, nor was Eichmann nearly as attractive and "Nazi-like" (as defined by the Hollywood stereotype).
This film gives NO new insight on Eichmann. The screenplay is shamefully bad, and the scenery is SO not-Israel. It screams MALTA (where it was shot),though NO southern Mediterranean island would have given us something that looks like Tel Aviv. These islands are ancient, and Tel Aviv started to become a city in the late 1920s and 30s (not in the 15th century).
My suggestion: if you are die-hard Thomas Kretschmann and Franka Potente fans, go. But just to see them. You won't find any substance or anything new in this movie - such a terrible waste of time, money, story, and great (and beautiful) German actors!
Well, here his "Naziness",in total contrast to his brief but impactive appearance in Polanski's THE PIANIST, and in DER UNTERGANG (as Hitler's brother-in-law)is a waste. It's a waste because the script of the film is horrible. His stereotype Nazi features would have been better spent in the USA 1960's sitcom HOGAN'S HEROES.
I live in Brazil and have spent a good part of my life here, in Argentina and in Germany, though I'm American and grew up in the 60s when WWII was still as fresh as the collapse of the USSR is now. So, any well-rounded movie fan from this area (or news junkie) would have as a compulsory experience, followed on radio and TV (no cable back then) the before & post-war antics of these Eichamnns, Klaus Barbies and their cohorts.
Now, I sat through a 5 or 6 hour film in Berlin in 1998 or 1999 (or was it two 4 hour sittings)of the COMPLETE Eichmann trial in Israel. The documentary was a "big release" as Documentaries go. It was playing in several art cinemas in Berlin, one near the Memorial Church, another in Kreuzberg,and in the Oranienburgerstrasse "art film multiplex" where I saw it.
If anyone knows which film I'm talking about, please submit as anew title or e-mail me. It is not any of the options this site gives: (Displaying 8 Results) 1.The Man Who Captured Eichmann (1996) (TV) 2."Adolf Eichmann 2003) (TV) aka I Met Adolf Eichmann" - UK 3."L'Hidato Shel Adolf Eichmann" (1994) 4.Operation Eichmann (1961) 5. Eichmann Trial (1961) (TV) 6. "Eichmann and the Third Reich" (1961) 7. The Trial of Adolf Eichmann(1997) (TV) 8. Witnesses to the Holocaust-the Trial of Adolf Eichmann(1987)(TV).
I thought it was Number 7 (the 1997 TV version), but it's too short and has a moderator, which the long film I saw lacked). Anyway, with that film as DEFINITE, REAL and irrefutable genuine human emotion, tragedies, and wrecked lives revealed, WHY make a feature film?
Well, as the list of seven above show, there was no shortage of "Eichmann films" when this film was shot, and released. And it has been released. In the Rio Festival, EICHMANN had 4 screenings in the main large cinemas, and was held over for a third week of "Last Chance For the Best of Rio" which ended last week. And the copy had burned subtitles in French, with electronic Portuguese subtitles below the screen. So, it has been somewhat shown around the world.
As this looks like a probable straight to DVD release. I had never even read about the filming of this feature, which also (mis) casted the German (but dark and with a star power name) Franka Potente as the Israeli's prosecutor's wife in one of the boring and pointless subplots. Potente, like everyone else including Eichmann, only spoke English, though she and her Prosecutor husband had met in France, and supposedly spoke French with each other.
But not a word of German, Yiddish, French or Hebrew is heard.
FINE. English is the international language. But this being a criminal court case movie, with loads of depositions, at least one of the victims could have spoken in the 4 major languages related to the case. Just for effect, like Arien Brody's attempts at German in the PIANIST, for some authenticity, with English, though not one of the four languages related to the case, as the main language, but not as-the language spoken 100% of the time!
Anyway, there is a "real film" with authentic testimony from the actual victims in their mother tongues, plus a couple of hours in Austrian-accented German deposition Eichmann gave. That documentary was basically in Hebrew, but both sides staunchly used their national identity languages. Eichmann spoke only German, and the Israeli prosecutor, judges, and victims did too - but chose to ask in Hebrew (so the crowd could understand apparently). Thus the translations to French, English, Russian & Yiddish, which I'm counting here as German added to an already long documentary, in black & white, with no visual power film of it all, two sets of subtitles running all the time. It was difficult to watch, but authentic, and a real treasure, something this EICHMANN is not.
Again, the hours of the real trial is what you should look for. The Israeli Prosecutor was not a gorgeous and elegant leading man, nor was Eichmann nearly as attractive and "Nazi-like" (as defined by the Hollywood stereotype).
This film gives NO new insight on Eichmann. The screenplay is shamefully bad, and the scenery is SO not-Israel. It screams MALTA (where it was shot),though NO southern Mediterranean island would have given us something that looks like Tel Aviv. These islands are ancient, and Tel Aviv started to become a city in the late 1920s and 30s (not in the 15th century).
My suggestion: if you are die-hard Thomas Kretschmann and Franka Potente fans, go. But just to see them. You won't find any substance or anything new in this movie - such a terrible waste of time, money, story, and great (and beautiful) German actors!
This French TV movie is yet another typical North African "illegal immigration to Europe story." Moreover, it's of the the tired Algerian/Tunisian migration saga to their mecca, France.
The difference between this one and the other ones is the sick cute kid, Louisa, in this case. But apart from her character, all the overworked personalities from the genre are in the film: the conniving thief offering expert advice to the "poor refugees", the corrupt officials, the heartless boat runner, Italian farmers exploiting cheap immigrant labor. In short, nothing you haven't seen before, if you're the sort of viewer attracted to this film in the first place.
For better takes on the genre, I recommend, just of the top of my head: "Loin", and "Exils" (not really the same, but with similar characters). At least this film offers some interesting views of Tunisia and its capital, Sicily and the Italian countryside as consolation.
The difference between this one and the other ones is the sick cute kid, Louisa, in this case. But apart from her character, all the overworked personalities from the genre are in the film: the conniving thief offering expert advice to the "poor refugees", the corrupt officials, the heartless boat runner, Italian farmers exploiting cheap immigrant labor. In short, nothing you haven't seen before, if you're the sort of viewer attracted to this film in the first place.
For better takes on the genre, I recommend, just of the top of my head: "Loin", and "Exils" (not really the same, but with similar characters). At least this film offers some interesting views of Tunisia and its capital, Sicily and the Italian countryside as consolation.
This is a wonderful 2 part mini series, or a nearly 3 hour TV film when shown together. Eurochannel, a major cable TV channel to Canada, and Latin America has been showing it for some time now, and still running it this year. I just checked transmission dates in their website. It's definitely worth seeing, particularly if you like family dramas, Irish themes (dubbed into French), the wonderful countrysides of Normandy and Ireland on either side of the "English Channel" ("Las Manche if you're French), and particularly if you like horse stories.
The story begins in Ireland where the romantic & temperamental Eric Conelly (Bruno Slagmulder) is in constant conflict with brother Sean (Gregg Fitzgerald). Their mother's untimely death combined with a failed fratricide between them makes Eric run away to France, where he was actually born. Once there, Eric loses his memory after falling from a horse. Jean Langlois (Victor Lanoux), a champion horse breeder helps him with the help of wife Louise (Catherine Salviat).
Constantly tormented by memory flashes, Eric attempts to establish a relationship with the cute chick in the area, Delphine (Lisa Martino), a neighbor & enemy of the Langlois family. She helps Eric, not only in recomposing his past but encourages him to become a jockey, something Eric shows an uncanny knack for. His talent is noticed by all the horse "aficionados" in this part of Normandy where he was born, where the 3 main adult characters hide secrets from the past.
Meanwhile, in Ireland, secrets from the past are also under the lid. Eric's brother, uncle-priest, and ailing father go on with their lives. But the key detail about the brothers' mother's death is withheld by the brothers' father. Yes, it's a "long-distance soap opera" with secrets to be revealed, where everything which needs falling into place does in due time. The contrasts and the similarities between the 2 brothers, the two locations, the two feuding families, and the two main horses competing for a big title all interlace nicely.
I recommend it highly, and can't understand why a group of users gave "1" ratings, which no film deserves, much less this top of the line European co production. I suspect it may have been a group of English speakers objecting to the Irish characters dubbed into French. But I think that had to be done to make the whole series spoken in one language only, and most of the locations and characters are in fact French. But I'm sure there's a version all dubbed in Irish accented English. But it's not the version the "Eurochannel" has been showing. Don't let that language detail deter you. It's worth a watch.
The story begins in Ireland where the romantic & temperamental Eric Conelly (Bruno Slagmulder) is in constant conflict with brother Sean (Gregg Fitzgerald). Their mother's untimely death combined with a failed fratricide between them makes Eric run away to France, where he was actually born. Once there, Eric loses his memory after falling from a horse. Jean Langlois (Victor Lanoux), a champion horse breeder helps him with the help of wife Louise (Catherine Salviat).
Constantly tormented by memory flashes, Eric attempts to establish a relationship with the cute chick in the area, Delphine (Lisa Martino), a neighbor & enemy of the Langlois family. She helps Eric, not only in recomposing his past but encourages him to become a jockey, something Eric shows an uncanny knack for. His talent is noticed by all the horse "aficionados" in this part of Normandy where he was born, where the 3 main adult characters hide secrets from the past.
Meanwhile, in Ireland, secrets from the past are also under the lid. Eric's brother, uncle-priest, and ailing father go on with their lives. But the key detail about the brothers' mother's death is withheld by the brothers' father. Yes, it's a "long-distance soap opera" with secrets to be revealed, where everything which needs falling into place does in due time. The contrasts and the similarities between the 2 brothers, the two locations, the two feuding families, and the two main horses competing for a big title all interlace nicely.
I recommend it highly, and can't understand why a group of users gave "1" ratings, which no film deserves, much less this top of the line European co production. I suspect it may have been a group of English speakers objecting to the Irish characters dubbed into French. But I think that had to be done to make the whole series spoken in one language only, and most of the locations and characters are in fact French. But I'm sure there's a version all dubbed in Irish accented English. But it's not the version the "Eurochannel" has been showing. Don't let that language detail deter you. It's worth a watch.
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