Les origines du SIDA

The polio vaccine in 1957 Congo ,did start the HIV epidemic..This is proved in the epic novel..(The River by Edward Hooper) It is a fine piece of work and 1000 pages long..I defy anyone to read this book and not be 100% sure..You will get plenty of dis- information on this subject and it will be junk science, gibberish..This is because an experimental vaccine was used on Africans who didn't even suffer from polio..The "bleach' virus was a western problem...Which brings us to the reality ,and why this is covered up in the west..For a village in the Congo to get an outbreak of polio.,a well job was undertaken..That this was population control is certain as many,many elites want de-population in a way I cant describe here.... A group of elites met in Holland 1954 ,the bandenberg group,3 years later comes HIV....In 1978,21 years later a hep B vaccine in new york started the American contagion,also pop control against gays ans drug addict..Now order that book online as it is hidden from the general public and see for yourself .

It is bad enough for the irresponsibility of Science to create a plague that will devastate a species, but it is even worse when the priests of this Church of Science feel it is morally defensible to use man's closest living relative. the Chimpanzee, as a laboratory victim, and to systematically destroy these creatures in Death Camps, far from the scrutiny of society.

This movie represents far more than the excesses that Science will go to; the kind of Science that was practiced in the Nazi Death Camps.

This movie represents nothing less than a Chimpanzee Holocaust.

These scientists should be brought to trial. Science itself must stand before the tribunal of History. I have recorded a DVD of this film. I have found it unavailable for purchase on DVD. The Scientific and Pharmaceutical Community and their army of lawyers are keeping it from the public as much as they can.

DVD recordings can easily be burnt onto VHS, or so I've heard. Someone should do that.

I welcome discussion at eurydice@cruzio.com

To my mind, an additionally disturbing aspect of this deeply enthralling 'theoretical' documentary was that I just caught it by chance at an obscure hour on one of the more obscure, pseudo fringe channels, namely Sundance. Why this documentary is not considered worthy of prime-time airing, allowing a far greater number of the population to see it and draw their own conclusions escapes me. But then again, maybe not.

In essence, was the HIV pandemic created by a fluke accident of tribal rituals or the 'cut hunter' theory, i.e. tribal hunters in central Africa (the Belgian Congo, now Zaire) becoming exposed to contaminated monkey blood containing SIV (Simian Imunodefficency Virus) through cuts or abrasions on themselves, or was this tragedy 'man made' through mass inoculations in Africa of Polio vaccine which had been cultured from monkey tissue contaminated with SIV which, when entering humans turns to HIV.

I could go on and on, but my simple advice would be, make this the next documentary you watch, I was hooked from beginning to end. One of its strengths is the way it puts across all the evidence supporting its key theories in a very matter-of-fact, understated way, hence avoiding slipping into the dangerous arena of 'sensationalist journalism'. It's enthralling, intelligent and, as one may imagine, deeply disturbing. It's a film, I believe, that should be seen by as many people as possible. So why haven't the more mainstream channels picked this up?. Maybe 'who's wearing what' on the Oscars red carpet is still deemed far more important.

I have seen this documentary several times and have studied the question of the origin of the AIDS epidemic for many years. I thought it was actually being conservative for what it could have presented as relevant or in support of Hoopers' theory.

It was riveting to actually see and hear members of the team that made the vaccine in question speak about their experiences and reveal little known evidence about its production. I was shocked at the statement of one famous vaccinologist when asked about its production.

I found myself saying 'Oh my God' at other evidence shown but only briefly touched upon. I think that if you know enough about the subject before seeing this documentary you will likely not view the pandemic and those affected as you did before. Especially, when you ponder the many implications of the evidence presented in the political climate of the times.

This documentary was very well done, and argued its case very well. I would like to have seen more on the genetics behind HIV and the known versions of SIV, but there are, apparently, not that many samples of SIV from the region, and new wildlife protection laws make it difficult to get more.

However... One of the other comments here asked why HIV did not appear early in the US if all vaccines were prepared using chimps. The documentary makes it clear that:

1) Most of the polio vaccines were prepared in a monkey serum. 2) Only the OPV used in the Congo was prepared using chimp serum, and it is from chimp SIV that we got HIV. Now there are some that claim SIV became HIV through hunting, but the OPV theory seems much more plausible.

As for why it's important to know about this now... We are still using animal serums for vaccines. We could use artificial serum, but it is more costly.