62 reviews
This is an art film, or at least what the average movie goer will view as an art film. By that, I mean you're going to have to dig really deep to find a plot that you can follow. The scenes are too obviously artistic...a tear drop, a blank stare, holding of hands.
The movie is about a man who is struggling with the guilt of having kidnapped a child who died. I'm not worried about giving away any spoilers because I'm not sure there are any to give away. The movie is a sequence of scenes that make you wonder why they are in the film, and frustratingly so because you really never find out.
American audiences especially will be shocked by the sex scenes. I'm not saying that's good or bad. We just rarely see a penis in a movie, aside from porn, let alone an erect one, let alone someone interacting with one.
The reason I gave this move a 5 is based entirely on its style. The characters often stare at each other with blank faces but they are consistently unemotional. The characters look like real people plucked right off a Mexico City street. The sounds in the film are interesting and graphic, sometimes noisy. But it works to keep you in the film. The filming in Mexico City creates an interesting backdrop. You're just dying for a story to be drawn from it but it never emerges, at least not a good one.
The movie is about a man who is struggling with the guilt of having kidnapped a child who died. I'm not worried about giving away any spoilers because I'm not sure there are any to give away. The movie is a sequence of scenes that make you wonder why they are in the film, and frustratingly so because you really never find out.
American audiences especially will be shocked by the sex scenes. I'm not saying that's good or bad. We just rarely see a penis in a movie, aside from porn, let alone an erect one, let alone someone interacting with one.
The reason I gave this move a 5 is based entirely on its style. The characters often stare at each other with blank faces but they are consistently unemotional. The characters look like real people plucked right off a Mexico City street. The sounds in the film are interesting and graphic, sometimes noisy. But it works to keep you in the film. The filming in Mexico City creates an interesting backdrop. You're just dying for a story to be drawn from it but it never emerges, at least not a good one.
- sandro-santoli
- Jan 28, 2012
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For two thirds of this film I was spellbound and then it suddenly span away from me. Listening to the director speaking afterwards, I think I know what went wrong and I shall have to view again some time to find out. It is all very watchable but slightly confusing towards the end, which is a shame and may be my fault, that of the director or even of Mexico itself. Whilst I have never been to the country it did seem that part of the lifeblood of this movie was the tangled city of contradictions itself. Even though not perfect in my eyes there was enough to show that this is a director of keen and original talent who will produce much more. His liking to work with non actors is welcome and his treatment of actual graphic sex is stunning. Very affecting, bitter sweet movie.
- christopher-underwood
- Aug 30, 2007
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- rmax304823
- Mar 7, 2007
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Having been led to believe by a listings magazine that this film had'outstanding naturalistic sound design', I should have realised i might be disappointed. I was expecting a slice of Mexican life, character development, perhaps a plot and I must admit a certain erotic content. The result was stunningly boring in every respect. Nothing is explained, we never learn why the event at the start of the film has taken place, the characters are almost totally impassive, deeply unappealing and the sexual encounters, apart from one, have no erotic appeal and indeed very little logic to them. Over the top music, a few symbols here and there, rolling up the flag, a little religion and superstition and such amusing touches as a leitmotiv of incontinence for no apparent reason, this truly was 90 minutes where paint drying would have seemed vastly more exciting. Do not see this film.
- andrew-race
- Nov 2, 2005
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There is a semblance of a plot in Carlos Reygadas' "Battle in Heaven" and it may even be an interesting one but it's not the plot that interests Reygadas. He opens (and closes) his film with shots of oral sex and there is a fair bit of explicit sex in the film, mostly between the overweight Marcos and his bosses' attractive daughter, who seems to be some kind of sex worker or between Marcos and his middle-aged and overweight wife. Using people who are not conventionally 'attractive' in 'real' sex scenes seems to be Reygadas' way of saying this is 'real' but, of course, we know it's not; it's a fiction about a couple who kidnap a baby who then dies. The husband, Marcos, then seems to be consumed with guilt, confesses what he's done, commits a murder and then goes on a kind of pilgrimage to purge himself of his sin.
Most film-makers might have concentrated on the kidnapping, cut back on the sex and thrown the pilgrimage in as an afterthought but Reygadas isn't most film-makers. One of Mexico's foremost directors Reygadas takes the germ of an idea and holds it at arms length, often using non-professional actors, as he does here; even the murder feels unreal and, to be honest, a bit pointless, (were it not for this killing we could be watching a documentary). It's superbly shot though the pacing, (and, I'm sure, the sex) won't be to everyone's taste. It is, however, now regarded as something of an art-house classic.
Most film-makers might have concentrated on the kidnapping, cut back on the sex and thrown the pilgrimage in as an afterthought but Reygadas isn't most film-makers. One of Mexico's foremost directors Reygadas takes the germ of an idea and holds it at arms length, often using non-professional actors, as he does here; even the murder feels unreal and, to be honest, a bit pointless, (were it not for this killing we could be watching a documentary). It's superbly shot though the pacing, (and, I'm sure, the sex) won't be to everyone's taste. It is, however, now regarded as something of an art-house classic.
- MOscarbradley
- Feb 19, 2017
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- claudio_carvalho
- Jun 16, 2018
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At first I was engrossed by the first minutes of the film. But having analysed the narrative structure and I came to the conclusion that in fact the beginning of the film is the vital part of the film which makes up the middle and the end of the film. There is a psychoanalytical perspective to take into consideration. One has to take into consideration the Latin American culture and the role of the man, to understand the pressures that revolve around the main character's psyche. The burden of his actions, both in having kidnapped a child and the consequences of his infidelity. This film at first seemed boring and slow, but once reflected upon can be added a few extra points. Aesthetics and psychological analysis within the narrative are strong points to look into...but didn't love it...But please bare in mind this is not a Porn film as supposedly wished in the previous critique.
- JanioEdwards
- Jan 29, 2006
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As a Mexican, it is very exciting for me to find new proposals for Mexican modern films.
Unfortunately, must of the current Mexican movies are taking the same Hollywood recipe: beautiful actors, violence, soundtracks of well known Latin groups... Batalla en el Cielo does not follow this. The director, Carlos Reygadas, is a person that really wants to show what he has in mind, and does not care about considering distracting elements for having a greater impact in the audience.
I am against the use of sex for attracting audience to a film. However, I really think that some (not all) of the sex scenes of this movie were really part of the story. Also, showing sex as it is (not always as idealistic and esthetic as Hollywood has taught us) is an interesting proposal!
I consider that one of the main achievements of this movies is to show many cultural traits of my country:
-The view of the Catholic religion as a resource to erase the mistakes one has made: "you can do whatever you want, don't worry about the effects because God will always help you"
-The notorious gap between rich and poor people: when Ana refers to Jaime's servant as "la gata" in such a despective -but common- way.
-The double morale managed by Mexican: how can a prostitute, as Ana, can be a moral leader over Marcos's acts?
-The informal commerce (Marcos and his wife sold merchandise in the subway).
-The love for soccer (what can I say about that, if I love it?)
-Cheating on your partner
-The lifestyle in Mexico City, with its traffic jams, way people behave in the subway, neurotic people, kidnaps.
All the issues above are part of the Mexican life.
Personally, I consider the following opportunity areas:
-Not all the music that was used was OK. Sometimes it was too "belic" for me , but at least it is according to the scenes and most of it does not follow the marketing intentions to make you buy a soundtrack
-The audio quality should have been improved (it was not easy to understand, even for people used to the way people from Mexico City speak!)
-Some (very few!) parts were too slow... but considering Reygadas's style, I might think that it is part of his professional charm.
I like to see a different proposal. I would recommend this film to people that, at the time that they leave the theater, really want to think about human nature, rather than thinking if it was an erotic or violent film.
I hope my comment has been useful...
Unfortunately, must of the current Mexican movies are taking the same Hollywood recipe: beautiful actors, violence, soundtracks of well known Latin groups... Batalla en el Cielo does not follow this. The director, Carlos Reygadas, is a person that really wants to show what he has in mind, and does not care about considering distracting elements for having a greater impact in the audience.
I am against the use of sex for attracting audience to a film. However, I really think that some (not all) of the sex scenes of this movie were really part of the story. Also, showing sex as it is (not always as idealistic and esthetic as Hollywood has taught us) is an interesting proposal!
I consider that one of the main achievements of this movies is to show many cultural traits of my country:
-The view of the Catholic religion as a resource to erase the mistakes one has made: "you can do whatever you want, don't worry about the effects because God will always help you"
-The notorious gap between rich and poor people: when Ana refers to Jaime's servant as "la gata" in such a despective -but common- way.
-The double morale managed by Mexican: how can a prostitute, as Ana, can be a moral leader over Marcos's acts?
-The informal commerce (Marcos and his wife sold merchandise in the subway).
-The love for soccer (what can I say about that, if I love it?)
-Cheating on your partner
-The lifestyle in Mexico City, with its traffic jams, way people behave in the subway, neurotic people, kidnaps.
All the issues above are part of the Mexican life.
Personally, I consider the following opportunity areas:
-Not all the music that was used was OK. Sometimes it was too "belic" for me , but at least it is according to the scenes and most of it does not follow the marketing intentions to make you buy a soundtrack
-The audio quality should have been improved (it was not easy to understand, even for people used to the way people from Mexico City speak!)
-Some (very few!) parts were too slow... but considering Reygadas's style, I might think that it is part of his professional charm.
I like to see a different proposal. I would recommend this film to people that, at the time that they leave the theater, really want to think about human nature, rather than thinking if it was an erotic or violent film.
I hope my comment has been useful...
- fluff-bomb
- Feb 9, 2015
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It can be said with certainty that all students of cinema would be completely mesmerized by camera angles used in 'Battle in Heaven'. Watching its deft camera work, one can easily say that the film's DOP Diego Martínez Vignatti has been given complete freedom to capture all kinds of emotions from characters' faces as well as from items surrounding them. One important scene shows two actors busily copulating with excitement. It is interesting to observe how the next scene quietly takes viewers out from the bedroom's window to a neighboring area where a television antenna is being installed. This is one positive point about this film's technical prowess. One problem area concerns sex scenes which are not easy to watch. This has nothing to do with prudish attitudes but there is blatant de- glamorization of sex. In mainstream media, sex is glamorized to such an extent that viewers are foolishly led to believe that it looks good only when beautiful, handsome and smart people are engaged in sexual activities. This is one reason why there are not many viewers who would appreciate watching how fat as well as ugly people copulate ? As far as narration is concerned, it is unfortunate that characters have not been developed to a large extent. This might be viewed as a major disappointment by viewers as characters' motivations are not clear. Director Carlos Reygadas works hard to reveal the behavioral traits of people especially in depicting how do people behave especially outside the comfort of their homes. This is one reason why the rich versus poor angle is explored but at a superficial level. As a last work, in spite of its inherent weak points, Battle in heaven can still be considered an average viewing experience as it says a lot by using limited amount of words.
- FilmCriticLalitRao
- May 29, 2015
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This not an easy picture. It requires Patience and commitment. It's a poetic movie about the urban heaven. About real people. About love and about madness. Reygadas is truly an author. He turns a conventional history in to a great ride through emotions, feelings and in to the overwhelming city of Mexico. Either you love it or hate it, no one comes out of the theater without a comment or a reaction. The movie has the power to move you in a positive or in a negative way. And i guess that something to be thankful about. Mexican films, in recent years, are mostly easy going urban comedies. This totally different. A prove that we can make different stories that reflect the sometimes surreal life of our country. This is one of them. With no professional actors, the movie feels honest and. The cast it's in a very natural level. The Sex scenes are not as important as they seem. Sex is finally a part o who we are, and we are use to see great bodies making love on the screen. It's not easy to see real people doing it, because we may see ourselves in them. And when someone throws your reality at your face, you can hate it. But Batalla En el Cielo does that and even more: Takes that reality to another lever and turns it in to poetry. And that it's just fantastic.
As the director probably hoped, the opening and closing blow job scenes gained this film a great deal of notoriety and attention that far exceeded the publicity such a turgid, self-consciously 'arty' film would normally receive. This unrelentingly ugly and frequently agonisingly boring film is about a couple of days in the life of a man who shags his bosses daughter and who, with his wife, has kidnapped a child (for no explained reason). At times this has the artless artiness of such trash auteurs as Doris Wishman, but give me Doris' 'Deadly Weapons' over this tedious trash any day! Pretentious and dull this is a pastiche of art house world cinema and does not warrant your time
- PaulLondon
- May 24, 2006
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This film is about a man and wife, who kidnapped a friend's baby for ransom. However, the baby died, and they have to live with the consequences.
The plot outline describes a promising start of an emotional drama. It could have been a captivating story if it was elaborated well. However, the plot ends there. The filmmakers ran out of ideas of what to do, and hence film a car driving around the city for minutes, or film the urban apartment blocks from a rooftop. Or throw in some sex scenes to keep viewers interested.
There is almost no portrayal of Ana and Marco's states of mind after the kidnapping goes wrong. There is no description of the victim's family's grief. Instead, the film wanders around aimlessly and pointlessly. It fails to engage, captivate or evoke any emotions. "Battle in Heaven" describes no battles. It lacks any redeeming value, and I strongly suggest staying away from it.
The plot outline describes a promising start of an emotional drama. It could have been a captivating story if it was elaborated well. However, the plot ends there. The filmmakers ran out of ideas of what to do, and hence film a car driving around the city for minutes, or film the urban apartment blocks from a rooftop. Or throw in some sex scenes to keep viewers interested.
There is almost no portrayal of Ana and Marco's states of mind after the kidnapping goes wrong. There is no description of the victim's family's grief. Instead, the film wanders around aimlessly and pointlessly. It fails to engage, captivate or evoke any emotions. "Battle in Heaven" describes no battles. It lacks any redeeming value, and I strongly suggest staying away from it.
- planetdiego
- Oct 11, 2005
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National references and debates of explicitness aside, this film has some very interesting uses of photography. The director creates spaces with an unreal or detached feel to them (thanks in a large way to the way the sound is used), which perhaps allude to the unreal place the main character inhabits at that time in his mind.
Surprisingly, there are also a few touches of humour (two incidents in particular involving passengers in cars), which serve to break up some a monotony which could develop around what is a very bleak picture.
In conclusion, not spectacular, but a promising turn in the development of this director, in what is an interesting study on the extremes of desire.
Surprisingly, there are also a few touches of humour (two incidents in particular involving passengers in cars), which serve to break up some a monotony which could develop around what is a very bleak picture.
In conclusion, not spectacular, but a promising turn in the development of this director, in what is an interesting study on the extremes of desire.
- gooberbrain
- Feb 23, 2006
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- PyrolyticCarbon
- Aug 25, 2005
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Battle in Heaven is an epic adventure in film in the urban world. It thrusts the viewer into many small worlds without fully explaining each world or how they are connected. You must be open and receive this film or you might be frustrated. The camera-work is radical in style yet actually slow and simple. It's just that nobody takes this truly panoramic approach. The use of music is also powerful and moving. Reygadas has really proved himself a force in cinema with this film.
Thematically, the film touches on many views -- one example if the fact that almost everyone looks ugly in this film, yet not repulsive. There is also a sense of raw sexual abandonment despite the lack of eroticism.
As well, the film deals with Mexican nationalism, and its Catholicism, and the army, in ways that will have relevance for Mexicans. There is beauty in this movie and the feeling of life's inherent tragedy. Decadence is present and evil casually introduced as an aside. You will also be awed by the bravery of the actors and moved by the raw and close-to-real sex acts.
Thematically, the film touches on many views -- one example if the fact that almost everyone looks ugly in this film, yet not repulsive. There is also a sense of raw sexual abandonment despite the lack of eroticism.
As well, the film deals with Mexican nationalism, and its Catholicism, and the army, in ways that will have relevance for Mexicans. There is beauty in this movie and the feeling of life's inherent tragedy. Decadence is present and evil casually introduced as an aside. You will also be awed by the bravery of the actors and moved by the raw and close-to-real sex acts.
- Matthew12222
- Sep 23, 2010
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