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What We Do Is Secret

  • 2007
  • R
  • 1h 32m
IMDb RATING
6.3/10
2.1K
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What We Do Is Secret (2007)
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The true-life story of Darby Crash, who became an L.A. punk icon after getting kicked out of high school and forming The Germs with a collection of friends who have little experience with th... Read allThe true-life story of Darby Crash, who became an L.A. punk icon after getting kicked out of high school and forming The Germs with a collection of friends who have little experience with their instruments or playing music.The true-life story of Darby Crash, who became an L.A. punk icon after getting kicked out of high school and forming The Germs with a collection of friends who have little experience with their instruments or playing music.

  • Director
    • Rodger Grossman
  • Writers
    • Rodger Grossman
    • Michelle Baer Ghaffari
  • Stars
    • Shane West
    • Rick Gonzalez
    • Bijou Phillips
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    • Director
      • Rodger Grossman
    • Writers
      • Rodger Grossman
      • Michelle Baer Ghaffari
    • Stars
      • Shane West
      • Rick Gonzalez
      • Bijou Phillips
    • 24User reviews
    • 34Critic reviews
    • 54Metascore
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    • Awards
      • 2 wins & 2 nominations total

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    Shane West
    Shane West
    • Darby Crash
    Rick Gonzalez
    Rick Gonzalez
    • Pat Smear
    Bijou Phillips
    Bijou Phillips
    • Lorna Doom
    Noah Segan
    Noah Segan
    • Don Bolles
    Tina Majorino
    Tina Majorino
    • Michelle
    Katharine Leonard
    Katharine Leonard
    • Jena Cardwell
    Rachael Santhon
    Rachael Santhon
    • Malissa Hutton
    Ashton Holmes
    Ashton Holmes
    • Rob Henley
    Keir O'Donnell
    Keir O'Donnell
    • Chris Ashford
    Lauren German
    Lauren German
    • Belinda
    Sebastian Roché
    Sebastian Roché
    • Claude 'Kickboy Face' Bessey
    Amy Halloran
    Amy Halloran
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    Missy Doty
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    Ray Park
    Ray Park
    • Brendan Mullen
    Azura Skye
    Azura Skye
    • Casey Cola
    Michele Hicks
    Michele Hicks
    • Penelope Spheeris
    Paul Nygro
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    • Bob Biggs
    Chris Pontius
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    • Director
      • Rodger Grossman
    • Writers
      • Rodger Grossman
      • Michelle Baer Ghaffari
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    6Quinoa1984

    very mixed bag; watch it for the performances, and one or two things

    It's simply this: Shane West, as a singer and performer of Germs songs as Darby Crash in What We Do is Secret, works fine. In the 1/4 of the film where the filmmakers turned their attention to the on-stage performances for the film (or one-time album recording), West does very good work, so good in fact one may be tempted to revisit just those aggressive and loud and messy and amazingly crude songs when the film is broadcast on a loop on IFC (you know it will be). And yet, for all of West's feracity in the part as the singer, when he has to *act* as Darby Crash, it's at best halfway believable and at worst very stupid.

    There is a resemblance, somewhere, between West- who previously appeared in such films as, yes, A Walk to Remember- and the grimy and death-by-junk singer who had a real intelligence and some crazy ideas. But at the same time West also looks and sounds and sometimes emotes just like what he is: a good but definite pretty boy. Darby Crash was many things, but a pretty boy assuredly not. And because the writing means to try its damndest to put a lot of the emotional weight on Crash, many moments (though not all) with West as Crash fall flat. Thankfully, by the third act, he isn't as irksome, and it almost turns into a halfway decent portrayal of such a true cult figure (cult in the literal sense perhaps).

    And yet I can't put all blame on West, or even for the other competent-to-good-to-not-so-good supporting actors playing other members of the Germs. It's the first-time writer/director Rodger Grossman, who hasn't quite figured out at times how to be very confident with the camera, and at best is most daring (in somewhat predictable ways) during the musical sequences and perhaps one shot where a pool is reflected. The rest is a lot of rote work as far as the dramatic stuff goes - when it comes to the "iterviews" done with the people in the band, the groupies, the b-word "manager/girlfriend/mother" of Darby Crash, they fare much better. Indeed if Grossman had been more decisive with how to take the direction of the film (as a documentary done with actors filling in the parts and going through actual things they may or may not have said), it would have worked better either way as gritty bio-pic or bittersweet pseudo-documentary.

    I probably sound harder on this movie than the actual vote/rating would say. Maybe it's because as a big fan of The Germs I was slightly more forgiving than other people may be. For the uninitiated it definitely gives a precisely strange and f***-ed up idea of who Crash was and how he drifted into heroin. And as well the uninitiated will find that it stinks. It's for die-hards only.
    1jmd26_0

    Are you guys kidding?

    I'm sorry but this movie is awful. Very surface, poorly made, badly acted- a major disappointment. Shane West is passable, but almost everyone else in the film is bad.

    And the script- they have taken the seedy, turbulent life of Darby Crash and turned it into an after school special. Actually, after school specials were more interesting than this.

    I am shocked that Pat Smear and the other surviving members of The Germs would have anything to do with this film. It makes them all seem one dimensional and uninteresting. Stick with Penelope Spheeris' great documentary THE DECLINE OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION- it will have to do until a better Germs biopic comes along.
    10ericsamaritan

    Just saw the movie in Westwood and it was great!!!!

    I just saw the Germs movie "What We Do Is Secret" in Westwood and it was awesome. The director and several of the actors were on hand which was cool. The music and lyrics of The Germs were a major part of my adolescent years in the early 80's. Usually rock n'roll bio pics just plain suck (they always do on VH1) and I was worried about this movie sucking since I am a huge Germs fan. It didn't suck, it ROCKED! The music was great. The acting was really well done. The directing was tight. The movie was paced well and it did a great job telling the story of a misunderstood band and it's front man, Darby Crash. This movie was obviously written and directed by someone who loved the Germs and it showed.

    Hats off to the cast and crew for a job well done!!!!!
    8Michael-d-duncan

    Nietzsche the punk

    The ascension of The Germs was more of a local buzz of fans obsessed with seeing a self-fatal maniac cut himself on stage and snarl into a cheap mic. I used to be a huge Germs fan, not so much any longer, nevertheless, The film follows Darby's persistent nihilistic struggles as he moves forward with The Germs. I was terrified that this would be a simple boring chronicle with a fade to black at the end with a little blurb about what they're doing now. But I was confronted with a film that bridged an interesting gap between documentary and narrative film. The acting is suburb and the film is easy to watch and mostly accurate, which is surprising! Most 'punk' films are obsessed with a hard and fast sound track filled with the heavy hitting punk bands. This one however sticks mostly with Germs tunes, but fills the void with Bowie (one of Darby's favs) and some fear (they're playing at a club). The film-makers made excellent choices to keep the sound track in a supporting role and let Darby really take the lead, just as his did in the band.

    Darby, for me, always summed up the punk world view, which is really angry nihilism (talk about irony)and I think this conflict is what he is ultimately struggling against, and also the reason that Punk as a 'movement' is self-defeating. Darby, as a character, is deep. And is artfully played. In the end, I suppose he would have made Nietzsche proud, Darby the anti-hero, the result of aspiring to the role of Übermensch. He found however, the bleak truth behind that famous graffiti, God is dead ~Nietzsche, Nietzsche is dead ~God.
    10joshua-nash84

    "I'm a lexicon devil with a battered brain"

    Rising out of the chaotic, drug fueled punk scene of Los Angeles the Germs while only active for from 1977 to 1980 became a band who transformed the face of punk rock. This film retells the rise and fall of this great band who's impact and influence is still felt today.

    What We Do Is Secret starts out with Darby Crash being interviewed by a European journalist about his 5 year plan. This 5 year plan could either be one of pure cockiness or did Darby believe that his days were numbered? All we're told is that the plan was inspired by the David Bowie song "Five Years" Throughout the film we see the band fail to get club bookings due to the violent, anarchistic nature of their performances (even though Crash thought of himself as being a fascist), the descent in heroin addiction and a rather hilarious interview segment on Rodney Bingenheimers radio show. During the final 10 minutes of the film the Germs play their final show after which Darby is shown to be in a rather helpless state. Darby crosses path with Casey Cola and the two of them form a suicide a pact. Darby was found dead a day before the assassination of John Lennon.

    Taking on the hard job of playing the punk icon Darby Crash is Shane West who is absolutely stellar in this role. Often at battle with himself (weak/strong, gentle/aggressive) West portrays crash as the intelligent and cocky young man full of self hatred in such a convincing manner. Following this film West went on to became the front man of the recently united Germs.

    Bijou Phillips puts in one of her greatest efforts as Germs bassist Lorna Doom (even playing bass on the films soundtrack-with West providing vocals) Rick Gonzalez (Pat Smear) and Noah Segan (Don Bolles) put in equally effective performances. The gritty nasty underbelly of this scene is introduced to us by the cast of misfits, addicts and enablers who I'm thankful are behind the TV screen.

    What I particularly liked about this film is that it didn't gloss over the fact that Darby Crash was a homosexual. The scene in which Darby is sitting in his bedroom, chest cut open wide with Rob Henley is a beautiful one. Throughout the film we see the nature of their relationship and Henley's desire to become the Germs drummer even though he doesn't have a single bit of musical talent. The punk scene of the 1970s was never one that accepted homosexuality so I found it fantastic that this important part of the story wasn't tossed aside.

    The soundtrack to this film is wonderful and features the music of David Bowie (2 Ziggy Stardust era songs), Alice Cooper, X and Shane West, Bijou Phillips, Lucas Haas and Micheal Le Blanc recreating the music of the Germs. The Germs contributed to this soundtrack with new recordings of the classics with Shane West on vocals.

    Darby Crash became a victim of his own creation.

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    • Trivia
      Because he was so good as Darby Crash, Shane West was hired as the new vocalist and The Germs reunited for a tour.
    • Goofs
      During scene set at LA hot dog stand in late Seventies, huge wall menu in background reflects 2000 era fast food prices and even lists at least one soft drink not introduced until years later.
    • Quotes

      Darby Crash: I love those who do not know how to live, except in perishing, for they are those that go beyond. I love the great despiser's, because they are the great adorers. They are arrows longing for the other shore. I love those who do not seek beyond the stars for a reason to parish and be sacrifice; but who sacrifice themselves to earth in order that earth may some day become... supermans. Tell me, my brothorin, if the goal be lacking to humanity is not humanity itself lacking; it is time for man to mark his goal. It is time for man to plant his germ of his highest hope.

    • Connections
      Referenced in Silk Scream (2017)
    • Soundtracks
      Queen Bitch
      Written and Performed by David Bowie

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    • Release date
      • August 8, 2008 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • То что мы делаем - тайна
    • Filming locations
      • Los Angeles, California, USA
    • Production companies
      • Coalition Film
      • Foundation Films
      • Picture Machine
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $58,776
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $5,888
      • Aug 10, 2008
    • Gross worldwide
      • $58,776
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 32 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
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    • Sound mix
      • Dolby Digital
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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