An affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.An affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.An affair between a cabana boy and the young wife of a sinister politician triggers a 16-year vendetta between the two men.
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We cut quickly from the plane to "14 years earlier" where we see Fiennes again, now much younger. We know he's younger because he isn't scarred and he doesn't have a goatee. He also isn't speaking with a thick Cuban accent anymore. He has a strange accent that waffles between British, "American," and "Latino." Fiennes is Alan, a cabana boy at a Miami resort. His friend Javier is trying to convince him that he should enter the drug game to make some real money. But Alan has clearly seen DePalma's Scarface, Blow, and a number of other drug movies and he has more legitimate dreams, starting, apparently, with bedding the wife (Gretchen Mol) of a New York businessman (Ray Liotta). Alan and the wife, Ella, begin perhaps the most public affair in cinema history. They make out down the beach from her husband, they get all kissy at local bars, and then have emotional conversations outside her hotel room. And the husband doesn't find out. But then it's time for the couple leave, but soulful Fiennes cannot let Ella go. We're not really sure why, though. As a character, she's a total cypher. Schrader gives her one or two expositional confessional moments, but that's about it.
So of course the relationship is at least temporarily doomed. But in Schrader's universe we knew that before Alan and Ella even kissed, because we know that she's Catholic and that guilt and morality will quickly come into play. As with several other Schrader works, religious fervor is the central plot device, which leads to Alan's deformity, Ella's regret, and the film's film act.
Beyond the Catholicism, though, there's not much at stake in Forever Mine. The two leads have minimal chemistry and the film is plagued by constant continuity errors and cliched plotting. I was troubled by the fact that the 14 years between the flashback and the framing device had done nothing to age any of characters. And I was perplexed by the fact that even though Alan's friend Javier starts out as the the man with the connections, he ends up as a glorified servant. I didn't understand why Schrader couldn't be bothered to develop either Ella's character or that of her husband. And I was just annoyed by Fiennes's inconsistantcy as an actor.
Schrader seems to be having fun with his own background and the backgrounds of his actors. There appear to be obvious references to Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, while Fiennes's 1987 persona has a strange similarity to Robert DeNiro. And all of the elements seemed to have been in place for a fine film. This was Schrader's follow-up to the minor masterpiece Affliction and Fiennes's follow-up to Shakespeare in Love. It was also Mol's first starring role after Vanity Fair jumped the gun and made her an "It" Girl shortly before the release of several small parts. But really nothing comes together. Schrader plots an affair without any twists or originality beside the Catholic guilt that have always fueled his violent Graham Greene-esque visions. The political context that justifies the period setting is hardly worth the effort. The drug subplot goes nowhere. And when Ella sits reading Madame Bovary to a group of senior citizens, the symbolism is just infantile.
Forever Mine never was released in theaters because the company producing it went under. It premiered on Starz! and moved to video. It's hard to imagine it having any real box office potential under any circumstances. This film is a 3/10 at best.
Reformation Church. Still, I'd love to have a taste of the
crack he was smoking when he wrote this flaming lulu, a
painfully sincere and heartfelt tribute to undying love that
suggests Stanley Kubrick singing "Love Theme from Mahogany" a cappella.
Apparently an attempt to capture the spirit of Scott Spencer's novel "Endless Love" (so famously lost by Franco Zeffirelli), FOREVER MINE posits Joseph Fiennes
(he of the smoldering, gotta-have-you eyebrows) as a Miami cabana boy who messes with the wrong guy's wife--Gretchen Mol as the secretarial cutie who married
gnarly Mr. Big (Ray Liotta). Before you can say AGAINST
ALL ODDS, Mr. Big is coming down hard on Cabana Boy--only, in Schrader's world, this means more mutilations, burials alive, disguises, funny accents, and
villainous moustache-twirlings than in the entirety of
Shakespeare's CYMBELINE.
Schrader claimed he wanted to go back to the nineteenth
century. And indeed, the over-the-top melodrama suggests
a desperate attempt to flee fin-de-siecle irony. But it's
always a train wreck when cerebral directors try to let go of
their book-learning and Open Themselves to Feeling. FOREVER MINE suggests a cable-movie version of Robert Bresson's two wackadoody salutes to cute young boys, FOUR NIGHTS OF A DREAMER and THE DEVIL PROBABLY; Fiennes greets Mol in a seedy motel room on which he has spray painted the words, "GIVE ALL TO LOVE." (That was the tagline of the movie's abortive theatrical run.) Like Kubrick in EYES WIDE SHUT, Schrader
tries to peel off his layers of coldness and ratiocination--but
any movie that opens with a quote from Walter Pater suggests that the filmmaker is more suited to analyzing
melodrama than expressing it.
For all the tropical gloss put on it by the great cinematographer John Bailey, FOREVER MINE has a giggle-inducing quality that's unique even to bad Schrader
movies. (In one scene, Fiennes leaves an ambivalent Mol
in her hotel room. As he walks away, he bumps his head
into a palm frond, stops, and seems to look back at the
palm frond. Fade to black. Does Schrader equate Douglas
Sirk with Ed Wood?) Now that he's expressed his inner lovesick sap, maybe Schrader can go back to who he really
is--a cold, alienated, God-haunted, overeducated freak
from Michigan who's also the greatest living writer of
movies.
But let's give credit where credit is due.
Cinematographer John Bailey did a magnificent, Oscar-worthy job on this film! It looks great. The first half takes place in Miami in 1973. I lived in Miami in the early 70's, and this film caught the feel of it so beautifully that I could smell the Cafe Cubano, hear the Jai-Alai cheers, and feel the sea breezes. The pastels, the faded glory of the hotels, the neon lights, the whole palette.
John Bailey can't be blamed for Forever Mine's script, or its legal problems, but the result of those problems must have been depressing for him because nobody ever saw Bailey's work projected on the big screen after the film festivals. That's really a shame. This film was meant to be projected in a 2.35 aspect ratio, and that simply can't be appreciated anywhere except a big screen. Of course, Bailey didn't know it would go straight-to-cable-and-DVD when he filmed it in that super widescreen ratio.
By the way, this work was no isolated fluke for Mr. Bailey, as you might guess. He has never won an Oscar, or even a nomination, but he's shot some very fine films in his career. He probably should have been nominated for an Oscar for his work on The Big Chill, and he has shot some terrific offbeat stuff, like Cat People and Groundhog Day.
So, a strong "well done" for Mr Bailey, for work that few people will ever see.
Did you know
- TriviaPatrick Swayze was at one point attached to the role Joseph Fiennes plays in this movie. But he had seconds thoughts shortly before filming because he didn't think he could ''pull it off.'' Schrader did not insist on him taking the role as he thought that if Swayze didn't think he could pull it off, he ''probably wouldn't be able to.''
- GoofsAlan works at the Don Cesar hotel which is prominently shown in the film and he has a figure of the hotel with its name on it in his room at McCleans in NY. The water by the hotel is called the ocean by many people and Ray Liotta is seen taking a boat to Bimini. This leaves the impression that the hotel is near Miami in Key Biscayne, but in reality it is near Tampa on the Gulf of Mexico (not the Atlantic Ocean) and a day trip to Bimini from there is out of the question.
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Manuel Esquema: Everything has a purpose. Everybody has a purpose. It is my purpose to be with Ella. Nothing can change that; not you, not the police, not the courts. It's just a fact. Like... like plants turning to the Sun, or death, or taxes.
Mark Brice: What is this gibberish? Are you crazy? Nobody talks like this. Make sense!
Manuel Esquema: People are afraid to say what they feel. Ella is afraid.
Mark Brice: I'm not afraid to say what I feel. There's two types of people in this world; assholes and pricks. You're an asshole. And I'm a prick. Do the math. Ella's mine.
- Crazy credits[prologue] "It is the addition of strangeness to beauty that constitutes the romantic character in art". - Walter Pater.
- ConnectionsReferences Taxi Driver (1976)
- SoundtracksForever Mine
Written by Angelo Badalamenti, Julia Taylor-Stanley and James Shearman
Performed by Shana
Published by Anlon Music Co.
Warner Chappell and A&E Copyright
Arranged by James Shearman and Nick Raine
Produced by Julia Taylor-Stanley
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