Religious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.Religious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.Religious fanatics are barricaded in a building, and surrounded by police. But they're not going to surrender, they prefer to die.
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There is no denying that Tim Daly's performance is stunning. But, it would seem that he was the only person working on this cartoonish debacle who did any research.
Now, what we have here is a question of motive. Why did they make this film without any access to the facts? (After all, the film was in post production before the siege was over) Were they making art? No. Were they documenting the truth? No. They didn't know what the truth was at that time. Were they trying the save the ATF from budget cutting and possible disbandment? I'll put my vote on yes.
This is a dangerous piece of propaganda, which holds murderers up as heroes, and displays people who are defending themselves as psychos.
Oh, and where was the scene where the FBI agents opened fire on the women and children who were hiding in the kitchen area to protect themselves from the CS gas? In fact, where was the CS gas?
Now, what we have here is a question of motive. Why did they make this film without any access to the facts? (After all, the film was in post production before the siege was over) Were they making art? No. Were they documenting the truth? No. They didn't know what the truth was at that time. Were they trying the save the ATF from budget cutting and possible disbandment? I'll put my vote on yes.
This is a dangerous piece of propaganda, which holds murderers up as heroes, and displays people who are defending themselves as psychos.
Oh, and where was the scene where the FBI agents opened fire on the women and children who were hiding in the kitchen area to protect themselves from the CS gas? In fact, where was the CS gas?
I certainly don't support a lunatic like David Koresh at all. However this film is about an important true event in American history, in terms of law enforcement and human rights. This film is a totally biased propaganda film that entirely ignores the errors of every American government agency involved. This was obviously funded to some degree for the very purpose of their public image. It is an insult to truth. It is an insult to the viewer. It is an insult to the American public. It is an insult to the foreign public. It is an insult to humankind. Is there anyone else I can say it's an insult to? This is bottom of the barrel stuff. Whatever happened to admitting your mistakes and learning from them? Would it be so bad if they admitted their errors? If children covered up their mistakes with pure lies like this film does. Most parents would certainly have a big talk with, or even punish them for such things. And this is the behaviour of the most powerful government in the world. Absolutely ridiculous! Anyone who researches this event, or watched it unfold knows that this film is a biased load. This is the exact kind of ammunition that crazed idiots like Koresh use to trick vulnerable people into believing that their government is not to be trusted. With such ignorant public propaganda. It really makes you wonder how corrupt some American government agencies are. With this kind of stuff out there, it is also not much of a wonder that the U.S. has become such a distrusted country around the world. This film makes me mad, and it makes me sick. It also makes me wonder if the government could possibly hire any dumber public relations gurus than the ones who came up with the idea to fund this garbage.
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The first review here was obviously wrote by someone who thinks that when Hollywood makes something they call a true story it must be all true. Watch the movie Ashes of Waco for actual facts on this issue. Granted Koresh claimed to be something he was not, this does not mean that this was a well executed plan by the ATF. Fact, the ATF could have arrested Koresh in town since he went there often. What we do have here is a Cliton era Janet Reno failure as usual. Do the research because this movie may try to capture the day many brave ATF agents lost there lives but it also slants the story to make sure you think that this was 100% the people of Mt Carmnels fault.
I remember watching this when it came out. I swear the siege was still going on when they started production. It made me wonder how accurate it could possibly be. I think it aired shortly before the trial or during. But this was when made for tv movies were rushed out the door and there were often multiple. Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan both got one on different channels and so on for each scandal. Hope this sets the scene a little bit for why movies were rushed. What it doesn't answer is where were the others from the opposite points of view?
But really the comedian from Wings was going to play this evil cult leader? But Tim Daly was so different and so frightening to be completely honest. He shined and I don't think I've ever been more impressed with him. Not to mention the makeup team. They really made him look like Koresh.
It followed the known information about the case at the time. But I think that was the point. They were a company that was trying to influence public opinion in a certain manner. Waco only got one tv movie in 93 I believe. And the radio show Koresh himself did. No one touched it for 5 years. I believe this is a good movie for explaining the times, how this tragedy happened, and how everyone reacted after. Maybe a little heavy for a movie review but I think it's an important one nonetheless.
But really the comedian from Wings was going to play this evil cult leader? But Tim Daly was so different and so frightening to be completely honest. He shined and I don't think I've ever been more impressed with him. Not to mention the makeup team. They really made him look like Koresh.
It followed the known information about the case at the time. But I think that was the point. They were a company that was trying to influence public opinion in a certain manner. Waco only got one tv movie in 93 I believe. And the radio show Koresh himself did. No one touched it for 5 years. I believe this is a good movie for explaining the times, how this tragedy happened, and how everyone reacted after. Maybe a little heavy for a movie review but I think it's an important one nonetheless.
If you want to know the truth about what really happened in Waco, TX between February 28th, 1993 and April 19th, 1993, this IS NOT the film to see. The writers claimed at the movie's beginning that this film was a result of "extensive research" concerning what happened, yet there is hardly any truth in nearly every scene in this film. It not only is a villification of David Koresh and the Branch Davidians but also a portrayal of the AFT as "brave heroes" who risked their lives so as to protect society from these dangerous lunatics. It fails to mention the point that the only reason that the AFT made the raid in the first place was because they had budget hearings pending and they needed a good publicity coup for those hearings.
The only error this film makes concerning the February 28th raid that is worth mentioning here is the fact that it omits the role of the helicopters in the raid. Anyone who has studied the facts of the raid knows that it was the helicopters who fired the first shots when they straffed the building. It was also one of the helicopters that, when making a straffing pass over the building, fired the shots the killed Peter Gent as he was climbing from out of the water tower. In this film, the Davidians (including some late-middle aged women) are shown to ambush the AFT as they approached the front door. It was too bad that millions of people formed their opinion concerning Koresh, his followers and the entire Waco incident from this piece of trash.
If someone really wants to know the truth of both Koresh and his followers and the entire incident from beginning to end, the best references are the books "The Ashes of Waco: An Investigation" by Dick J. Reavis and "A Place Called Waco" by David Thibodeau. Also, the video "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" is a excellent piece of documentary film making.
The only error this film makes concerning the February 28th raid that is worth mentioning here is the fact that it omits the role of the helicopters in the raid. Anyone who has studied the facts of the raid knows that it was the helicopters who fired the first shots when they straffed the building. It was also one of the helicopters that, when making a straffing pass over the building, fired the shots the killed Peter Gent as he was climbing from out of the water tower. In this film, the Davidians (including some late-middle aged women) are shown to ambush the AFT as they approached the front door. It was too bad that millions of people formed their opinion concerning Koresh, his followers and the entire Waco incident from this piece of trash.
If someone really wants to know the truth of both Koresh and his followers and the entire incident from beginning to end, the best references are the books "The Ashes of Waco: An Investigation" by Dick J. Reavis and "A Place Called Waco" by David Thibodeau. Also, the video "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" is a excellent piece of documentary film making.
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- TriviaPhil Penningroth, who wrote the screenplay, has regretted his involvement with this movie in the years since its premiere.
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David Koresh: Everyone is so obsessed with politics and power.
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By what name was In the Line of Duty: Ambush in Waco (1993) officially released in Canada in English?
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