15 reviews
It's been over a decade since I saw this film, but I do remember it rather fondly. It showed sensitivity for the characters as well as the subject matter, instead of being exploitative. At the same time, it was quite frank in dealing with the story and of course, it ends tragically. I also remember being impressed with Vanessa Paradis, both for playing a difficult role deftly, and for her physical beauty. It was only recently that I became aware of her real-life relationship (being Johnny Depp's girlfriend).
I would love to see the film again, but it seems it hasn't been widely circulated on DVD, and the R2 disc is hard to find. What a pity.
I would love to see the film again, but it seems it hasn't been widely circulated on DVD, and the R2 disc is hard to find. What a pity.
- rmax304823
- Jun 17, 2009
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Not a bad movie about impossible love, but I would suggest that you see Eric Rohmer's films a second time before taking a look at this one. What is the fascination of older man for young Lolitas? In this one, it's Vanessa Paradis, who's playing the student who get her philosophy teacher (Cremer) all tangled up in a web of difficulties. The fascination also with the troubled girl who's despaired, all the while hiding a terrible secret: she's smart, very smart. The movie is ok but sometimes a little bit too improbable. Performances are good, not great. A better film in the same genre: À la folie, pas du tout... (with Audrey Tautou). On the bright side, the movie offers an inside of what kind of feelings teachers like François are capable of developing. Every day, there's teachers who put themselves in the same situation. Society seems to be able to understand why a young girl like Mathilde could fall in love with a much older man, but the reverse ain't true.
Out of 100, I gave it 73. That's good for **½ out of ****.
Seen at home, in Toronto, on May 11th, 2004.
Out of 100, I gave it 73. That's good for **½ out of ****.
Seen at home, in Toronto, on May 11th, 2004.
- LeRoyMarko
- May 10, 2004
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now this was the vanessa paradis video i had been waiting weeks to see. i finally got my copy ordered off of ebay and i was so glad i did. in it, vanessa paradis plays a moody young teenager named mathilde who has no parents. she rarely shows up to class, and when she does, it appears as if she is just wasting her time. her philosophy teacher francois (played by bruno cremer), happens to stumble across her path and once he finds out more about her, is eager to help her learn more. he starts to come over to her house everyday going over her homework, and teaching her the art of the study.
now, eventually, mathilde starts placing little hints that she finds francois attractive. (if you didn't know, she is 17, he is 49) he tries to resist her, but he finds himself falling for mathilde as well. they soon blossom into a passionate love. they must keep their affair a secret from his wife and the school.
you can tell that mathilde was a person who was not used to anybody caring for her before, especially in that way, so she took the first chance she got. and fell in love with him. francois, on the other hand, really just got a little too involved trying to help her. i don't think he meant to fall in love with her, but it happened.
this movie shows the struggles between a student & teacher relationship. it deals with adolscents, anger, jealousy, love, and all these other elements. the cinematography is top notch. there are some beautiful scenes of vanessa paradis in them, especially one while she is sleeping and the light streams in on her fragile body.
most of you would probably go "okay that's just plain sick. he's so old! and she's so....young!"
and that's true.
but mathilde did say "old, sick, wrinkled, thin, fat, i don't care. i'll love you for any and everyway you are" she really did love him.
this was a beautiful and moving movie that actually made me cry at the end. it's a tragic story, dealing with a taboo love that just isn't allowed in today's world.
i would like this title to be realeased in america, so people can see this wonderful gem of a film. paradis and cremer both did superb jobs in their acting, as well as jean-claude brisseau in directing and writing the screenplay.
take a break from american blockbusters and see this tragic drama.
you may just like what you find....
final rating: A+
now, eventually, mathilde starts placing little hints that she finds francois attractive. (if you didn't know, she is 17, he is 49) he tries to resist her, but he finds himself falling for mathilde as well. they soon blossom into a passionate love. they must keep their affair a secret from his wife and the school.
you can tell that mathilde was a person who was not used to anybody caring for her before, especially in that way, so she took the first chance she got. and fell in love with him. francois, on the other hand, really just got a little too involved trying to help her. i don't think he meant to fall in love with her, but it happened.
this movie shows the struggles between a student & teacher relationship. it deals with adolscents, anger, jealousy, love, and all these other elements. the cinematography is top notch. there are some beautiful scenes of vanessa paradis in them, especially one while she is sleeping and the light streams in on her fragile body.
most of you would probably go "okay that's just plain sick. he's so old! and she's so....young!"
and that's true.
but mathilde did say "old, sick, wrinkled, thin, fat, i don't care. i'll love you for any and everyway you are" she really did love him.
this was a beautiful and moving movie that actually made me cry at the end. it's a tragic story, dealing with a taboo love that just isn't allowed in today's world.
i would like this title to be realeased in america, so people can see this wonderful gem of a film. paradis and cremer both did superb jobs in their acting, as well as jean-claude brisseau in directing and writing the screenplay.
take a break from american blockbusters and see this tragic drama.
you may just like what you find....
final rating: A+
- silversarchan
- Apr 11, 2003
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- ironhorse_iv
- Nov 15, 2017
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- writers_reign
- Sep 20, 2007
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I remember seeing this movie for the first time and about 15 more times over the years. When I was young it was a lot because of Vanessa's beauty and slightly because of the plot. Over the years the truth behind the story, the way the film unfolds, made me realize how emotional I get every time I see it. It's something all of us have gone through in one form or another. My heart went out to Mathilde and her feelings. Add to that the scenery and the atmosphere and you have the perfect tear bearer movie. Excellent acting and wise choice of actors make the movie very believable. You sympathize with all the characters and feel there emotions. A great movie for a rainy night.
This film was outrageous, about a teacher acting on the advances of a minor. Even though the minor played by Vanessa Paradis who was 17 at the time of acting this part was sexually aggressive this does not excuse the teacher, a man in the position of power, from allowing himself to be drawn into her web. The minor was a little mentally unstable but very intelligent and unconventional to say the least. He should have offered her love and support but not sex. This is an interesting film, though, very watchable if totally unrealistic and amoral.
- davidpedersen
- Feb 4, 2003
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This is a very deep and moving film.
I saw it over 10 years ago for the first time and was fascinated, and I still am.
The story is well constructed and follows the human rhythms, nothing is calculated or forced, but all is just terribly... real.
It's an incredible story of love, loyalty, violence, integrity, doubts, with two protagonists at the limits of their lives. All characters are played by good actors, but the young girl and the professor (Vanessa and Bruno) stand out... what a performance!
For me this is a masterpiece.
I saw it over 10 years ago for the first time and was fascinated, and I still am.
The story is well constructed and follows the human rhythms, nothing is calculated or forced, but all is just terribly... real.
It's an incredible story of love, loyalty, violence, integrity, doubts, with two protagonists at the limits of their lives. All characters are played by good actors, but the young girl and the professor (Vanessa and Bruno) stand out... what a performance!
For me this is a masterpiece.
- paolo-cattolico
- Jan 7, 2014
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The only thing this film has that Kubrick or Lyne do not is nudity.
Vanessa Paradis' bottom is documented throughout, often without real purpose or reason. Otherwise, she is remarkable for a first film shot when she was 16.
Crémier should have known better and this is not a film anyone watches to rate his acting skills.
The representation of the French schooling enviroment is accurate, as can be expected of a director who had been a teacher.
However, all of the above is just wrapping for a tedious, pointless, soliloquy on the identity of death and love (or at least sex); The firlm goes on and on without displaying any real commitment to its topic: it is not a cautionary tale, not a celebration, not absurd, just not.
Watched in French when it came out. Watched partially again in English 2022.
Vanessa Paradis' bottom is documented throughout, often without real purpose or reason. Otherwise, she is remarkable for a first film shot when she was 16.
Crémier should have known better and this is not a film anyone watches to rate his acting skills.
The representation of the French schooling enviroment is accurate, as can be expected of a director who had been a teacher.
However, all of the above is just wrapping for a tedious, pointless, soliloquy on the identity of death and love (or at least sex); The firlm goes on and on without displaying any real commitment to its topic: it is not a cautionary tale, not a celebration, not absurd, just not.
Watched in French when it came out. Watched partially again in English 2022.
- francois-81478
- Aug 14, 2022
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must watch movie but not for faint hearted/ emotional ones like me.
i'm so moved by the movie that at 5.12 a.m in the morning i'm writing this. all night i've not slept. i just wanted to distract my mind from the movie so that i could sleep. that didn't happen i will have to go to class at 7 without sleeping. why these touches our heart, when i know love is not anything. somebody is sad without it , others are sad with it. love just distracts your mind for some days , then when you adjust with it and ponder what next.......... and then you realize it was not what you wanted... perhaps
acting by Vanessa paradis is outstanding, she is now the wife of Johnny depp......
she is looking so gorgeous
i'm so moved by the movie that at 5.12 a.m in the morning i'm writing this. all night i've not slept. i just wanted to distract my mind from the movie so that i could sleep. that didn't happen i will have to go to class at 7 without sleeping. why these touches our heart, when i know love is not anything. somebody is sad without it , others are sad with it. love just distracts your mind for some days , then when you adjust with it and ponder what next.......... and then you realize it was not what you wanted... perhaps
acting by Vanessa paradis is outstanding, she is now the wife of Johnny depp......
she is looking so gorgeous
- ravi_ranjan_4
- Jan 23, 2011
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Vanessa Paradis is most famous today as American superstar Johnny Depp's longtime girlfriend, but she is also a FRENCH actress, which means she, of course, she has an early role where she plays a nubile teen in love with a middle-aged man. The French penchant for drooling over beautiful teenage girls may be annoying to some, but is it really worse than the American/Hollywood penchant for pretending they're NOT drooling over the beautiful teenage girls that seem to find their way into every other movie somewhere? But really there is no "eew" factor here--there are no on-camera sex scenes between the man and the girl, and 17 or not, a few shots of a naked Vanessa Paradis are not going to make ANYONE go "eew".
The bigger problem with these French "lolita" movies is the plausibility. Middle-age men don't generally date teenage girls, not because they find them icky and physically unappealing, but because they're very rarely as worldly and sophisticated as the fictional nymphets in these French movies. Moreover, even in France very few girls that age are probably too interested in ennui-filled men old enough to be their spry young grandfathers. It's actually understandable that the married middle-aged philosophy teacher in this movie would fall in love with his brilliant but troubled student since she is absolutely beautiful (clothed and unclothed) and wise beyond her years. But Paradis' character is supposed to be this streetwise urchin who has dabbled in prostitution in the past, and it is a little hard to believe she'd fall madly, obsessively in love with a fifty year man just because he shows her some kindness. (Also, while 17 may not get you twenty in a French bastile, I'm pretty sure it would get you kicked out of the teaching profession).
Paradis is indeed pretty good in this (although she would be better playing another troubled teenager a few years later in "Elisa"). And this movie is definitely well-made with some memorable scenes of sad beauty. It still remains somewhat of a middle-age male sex fantasy however, which doesn't make it at all distasteful, but does make it somewhat implausible.
The bigger problem with these French "lolita" movies is the plausibility. Middle-age men don't generally date teenage girls, not because they find them icky and physically unappealing, but because they're very rarely as worldly and sophisticated as the fictional nymphets in these French movies. Moreover, even in France very few girls that age are probably too interested in ennui-filled men old enough to be their spry young grandfathers. It's actually understandable that the married middle-aged philosophy teacher in this movie would fall in love with his brilliant but troubled student since she is absolutely beautiful (clothed and unclothed) and wise beyond her years. But Paradis' character is supposed to be this streetwise urchin who has dabbled in prostitution in the past, and it is a little hard to believe she'd fall madly, obsessively in love with a fifty year man just because he shows her some kindness. (Also, while 17 may not get you twenty in a French bastile, I'm pretty sure it would get you kicked out of the teaching profession).
Paradis is indeed pretty good in this (although she would be better playing another troubled teenager a few years later in "Elisa"). And this movie is definitely well-made with some memorable scenes of sad beauty. It still remains somewhat of a middle-age male sex fantasy however, which doesn't make it at all distasteful, but does make it somewhat implausible.
Noce Blanche is a story where a philosophy teacher falls in love with a "wayward" 17-year-old student of his. Viewings of this will likely be motivated by the subject matter, however the film does offer up substantial insight into the human condition. What is very interesting about children, especially bright ones, is that they can see through the hypocrisies of the adult world through all our false pride and double standards, and love means everything to them. They are trumped by the muscularity, cynicism, experience and judgement of adults. But they see through us, Mathilde sees straight away that François, despite a wife, career, and friends, is completely alone in the world, she sees it because it is obvious and she has not been desensitised.
There are two particularly interesting philosophical ideas that come up in François' classes, that we are the unknowing accomplices of our "other self" the subconscious, prisoners of its fate, and also that people who choose to study metaphysics, choose death, as a preference over life.
The aesthetics of the movie are very subtle, it could easily be mistaken for one of those French dramas where the camera is simply pointed at the actors, but there is a palette of blue and greys here, and I ended up freezing the view a few times to admire the stills. It is far from being ostentatious or mannered however.
The story ends up feeling quite Grecian in the end, but who am I to say unrealistic, reality is almost always stranger than fiction. Works for purposes of titillation for sure, but also has great depths. Two successful watches in a row from Brisseau for me, following on from The Girl From Nowhere, more adventures to come!
There are two particularly interesting philosophical ideas that come up in François' classes, that we are the unknowing accomplices of our "other self" the subconscious, prisoners of its fate, and also that people who choose to study metaphysics, choose death, as a preference over life.
The aesthetics of the movie are very subtle, it could easily be mistaken for one of those French dramas where the camera is simply pointed at the actors, but there is a palette of blue and greys here, and I ended up freezing the view a few times to admire the stills. It is far from being ostentatious or mannered however.
The story ends up feeling quite Grecian in the end, but who am I to say unrealistic, reality is almost always stranger than fiction. Works for purposes of titillation for sure, but also has great depths. Two successful watches in a row from Brisseau for me, following on from The Girl From Nowhere, more adventures to come!
- oOgiandujaOo_and_Eddy_Merckx
- Mar 24, 2017
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I saw this movie for the first time when I was 15 or so (1992) and ever since then I have seen it at least another 7 or 8 times. This is true, you know. School girls DO fall in love with exactly these kind of ppl. Not everyone falls for the latest boy-band-model-of-the-year type. Some goes for the sophisticated, sensitive, reliable and wise men. I got the movie from amazon as VHS, and still hope that one day it will come up as DVD title. Most recommended, for those who want to see true love in the eyes of young girls.
Was this a joke? Stunning young pupil falls for droopy, haggard old philosophy teacher, becomes obsessed with him, disaster ensues. Imagine "Lolita" with the predatory roles reversed, none of the humor, literacy or irony, and delivered with a sleep-inducing dullness. The "erotic" scenes are laughably soft-core. The film's attempts at a sex/death dialectic are pathetic---you'd do a lot better with Kubrick's Nobokov adaptation, Pabst's "Pandora's Box" or at least "American Beauty", Tragic Jailbait stories with intelligent subtexts.
Vanessa Paradis is transcendental. She enlivens the film, even if her character is written in a cheap, tawdry and uninteresting note. The sight of Cremer slobbering over Paradis' silky young skin gave me the shivers, almost as much as watching Harvey Fierstein making out with Matthew Broderick in "Torch Song Trilogy": anything to skip this Creepy Old Guy fantasy that doesn't show any awareness of its own ludicrous hamfisted-ness.
Double Ewwwwwwww...
Vanessa Paradis is transcendental. She enlivens the film, even if her character is written in a cheap, tawdry and uninteresting note. The sight of Cremer slobbering over Paradis' silky young skin gave me the shivers, almost as much as watching Harvey Fierstein making out with Matthew Broderick in "Torch Song Trilogy": anything to skip this Creepy Old Guy fantasy that doesn't show any awareness of its own ludicrous hamfisted-ness.
Double Ewwwwwwww...