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Joshua Then and Now

  • 1985
  • R
  • 2h 58m
IMDb RATING
6.5/10
639
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Joshua Then and Now (1985)
ComedyDrama

The story of a Jewish writer, from his life as a young boy in Montreal to his more complicated grown-up life.The story of a Jewish writer, from his life as a young boy in Montreal to his more complicated grown-up life.The story of a Jewish writer, from his life as a young boy in Montreal to his more complicated grown-up life.

  • Director
    • Ted Kotcheff
  • Writer
    • Mordecai Richler
  • Stars
    • James Woods
    • Gabrielle Lazure
    • Alan Arkin
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.5/10
    639
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Ted Kotcheff
    • Writer
      • Mordecai Richler
    • Stars
      • James Woods
      • Gabrielle Lazure
      • Alan Arkin
    • 8User reviews
    • 5Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 5 wins & 8 nominations total

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    James Woods
    James Woods
    • Joshua Shapiro
    Gabrielle Lazure
    Gabrielle Lazure
    • Pauline Shapiro
    Alan Arkin
    Alan Arkin
    • Reuben Shapiro
    Michael Sarrazin
    Michael Sarrazin
    • Kevin Hornby
    Linda Sorensen
    Linda Sorensen
    • Esther Shapiro
    Alan Scarfe
    Alan Scarfe
    • Jack Trimble
    Ken Campbell
    • Sidney Murdoch
    Kate Trotter
    Kate Trotter
    • Jane Trimble
    Alexander Knox
    Alexander Knox
    • Senator Hornby
    Eric Kimmel
    • Young Joshua Shapiro
    Chuck Shamata
    Chuck Shamata
    • Seymour Kaplan
    Yuval Kernerman
    • Young Seymour Kaplan
    Robert Joy
    Robert Joy
    • Colin Fraser
    Harvey Atkin
    Harvey Atkin
    • Dr. Jonathan Cole
    Paul Hecht
    • Eli Seligson
    Andrew Powell
    • Ralph Murdoch
    Jack Rider
    • Dr. Danzinger
    Talya Rubin
    • Susy Shapiro
    • Director
      • Ted Kotcheff
    • Writer
      • Mordecai Richler
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    6riddler_von_stueban

    I was a fan of Mr.Woods from Videodrome

    I was a James woods fan since Videodrome.

    My best friend and I went to our local movie theatre and saw this movie. As a kid but a fan of film at a really young age. My mother and I would watch movies that are now only on TMC now.

    That's how I started learning film instead of watching movies.

    Now I go from so bad it's good stuff to seeing techniques that were poorly reviewed to the same shots in other films to be "oh my goodness that is great". I'm paraphrasing obviously. 🙄 Anyway to rewatch this film is a conundrum ... Do I look at it as the new me sees the art or do I not and use the memory as a way to assess film now ?

    This movie drew me in on one level only but made me look at Allen Arkin as another actor to follow.

    So that's my dilemma.

    The film to me was so out of my depth as I watched it. Then there was a sad strange feeling that I knew this story. I had seen it in standard TV series at the time but only ever touched on.

    I was 17 and finally found that the joy of film is the most satisfying thing that became my escape to let my mind wander and reason to dig deep and realize that art is art and to judge a piece for its time.

    Ok I think I've ranted enough.
    7lisalapp

    Limited charm, but a major treat for Arkin fans

    This movie creates a real and engaging feeling for the title character's life -- his ridiculous childhood, with seedy parents each pretending in their own perverse ways to give him wholesome roots, followed by his self-led path into adulthood and sincere, anti-authority liberalism. That it creates an authentic and engaging world is the best I can say for the movie as a whole, because the story lacks a real "hook" (the fake scandal that's meant to hook you and anchor the story never amounts to much and it's not even interesting), and the plotting of that misfired story sort of ambles wherever it feels like going, without any belief in itself. The acting is good (often very good), so there's never any question that the characters themselves care about the story, but they rarely reach through the screen and make you care too.

    It's only when the movie stops narrating a story and instead admits to being simply a pastiche of one man's big house of a life, that it really pulls you in and make you glad to be ambling through its comfortably unconventional rooms.

    At the heart of this film's big house of a life is not Joshua (he's too busy thinking the story is important) -- no, the real heart of this movie, when it's honest, is Alan Arkin's thoroughly delightful, effortlessly expert, full incarnation of Joshua's father. Reuben is a mid-level crook who breezes through his shady life with a flashy white suit, a profound love for his son, a Talmudic view of the big picture, and an interpretation of the Bible that sounds like the treatment for an old boxing movie. He is an absolute treat every moment he's on screen. I'm tempted to quote some of his best lines here, but it's not the lines that do it; it's Arkin's subtly hilarious and fully human expression of this completely original character that makes you want to rewind after each of his scenes and watch it again.

    In fact, if the story doesn't hold your interest (and it probably won't), I recommend giving up and simply forward-searching from one Arkin scene to the next, maybe stopping to watch the bizarre strip-tease Bar Mitvah party scene.

    Michael Sarrazin is the second gem in this movie, but his brief screen time is only enough to show you that he is one brilliant actor. His delivery of a two-word line ("Excuse me," in tennis whites) fully conveys an entire character -- privileged childhood, screwed-up adolescence, class arrogance that he wears with perfect grace over his complete failure as a grown-up, and all of this in just two words. His other moments are just as good; I wanted more of them.

    Now, about James Woods. Critics said he gave a "creditable" performance as Joshua, but I don't want "creditable" in the lead role -- I want to care about him, and I never once cared about Joshua (except in childhood scenes, played by more likable actors). The adult Joshua is supposed to be a charmer, and Woods' Joshua might charm the other characters, but that's only because the script says he does. He never charms the viewer, and this is the film's biggest flaw.

    I recommend this movie not for its story or lead performances, but for its ambiance and especially for Arkin. This may be his finest comic performance on film.
    10deemo31

    A Must For Any Collection

    My wife and I saw this movie just because the video recorder was on the wrong station when it started recording. We saw who was in it, and decided to give it a shot. What a pleasant surprise this movie turned out to be.

    Woods is masterful as he plays the sardonic Joshua, the son of a stripper/hooker and an x boxer on the run from the mob or the cops or both. (Arkin) Alan Arkin is just amazing in this part. If you like him, you have to see him teaching his young son about politics, the Jewish faith and the female anatomy. The pool room scene will kill you! Joshua's mom, Linda Sorenson, always in competition with his beloved Father for Josua's affection, throws one of the greatest birthday for Joshua any kid could hope for. A total hoot.

    The story follows young Josh and his buddies into their adult lives. As you would imagine, they take different paths. One becomes a doctor. One a wine snob. Josh meets the girl of his dreams and marries her. (Beautiful Gabrielle Lazur.) In classic "Romeo and Juliet" fashion, they are from two different worlds. But in this case, the adversity has a slightly more comedic ending.

    I LOVE this film. Settig the VCR to the wrong station that day was one of the best things I've ever done!!!
    10Metzler71

    truly a magnificent film! deserving more than oblivion

    i love mainstream movies just like the next guy.. gladiator, traffic, usual suspects, shawshank redemption etc. this is a movie very different from those.. but still a great movie. alan arkin is very funny. james woods makes his best role.. and gabriell lazure is a stunning woman...
    6SnoopyStyle

    Canadian art-house

    Joshua Shapiro (James Woods) is a famous writer caught in a scandal. His wife has left and his kids are inconsolable. He recalls his life starting with his childhood in the tough Montreal neighborhood during WWII. His father Reuben Shapiro (Alan Arkin), involved in some sketchy stuff, goes on the run. His mother is a performer who does burlesque stripping for his friends. Reuben gets out of prison. Joshua wants to go to the Spanish Civil War but ends up in London. Nobody wants his writing and he befriends Sidney Murdoch. His writing finally gets into the newspaper as he pursues a mysterious blonde. Pauline turns out to be the wife of a wannabe communist Colin Fraser and daughter of Senator Hornby. Her brother Kevin is troubled. Joshua would steal Pauline away and be married with kids.

    This is a Canadian art-house film based on Mordecai Richler's novel. Canadian director Ted Kotcheff continues after doing the previous Richler movie. The look has more in common with a 70's movie. It's a long fictional biopic. There is limited drama or tension. It's fun to see James Woods and even better to have Alan Arkin in supporting role. The movie excels when Arkin is on the screen. This life is too rambling to be concise. There are bits of great scenes like his mother stripping for his childhood friends. This is an interesting part of Canadian cinema.

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    • Trivia
      The last feature film of Alexander Knox.
    • Alternate versions
      Co-produced by the Canadian National Broadcaster CBC, Joshua Then & Now was aired as a four-hour miniseries, with many scenes and subplots not included in the theatrical version.
    • Connections
      Featured in Alan Arkin: Live from the TCM Classic Film Festival (2015)
    • Soundtracks
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      Performed by The Dazzlers

      Written by Steve Scala

      Published by T.K. Publishing

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    • Release date
      • September 5, 1985 (Canada)
    • Country of origin
      • Canada
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Eine Liebe in Montreal
    • Filming locations
      • Royal Albert Hall, London, England, UK(Joshua is arrested on the steps from Prince Consort Road)
    • Production companies
      • Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC)
      • Moviecorp X
      • RSL Entertainment Corp.
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    • Budget
      • CA$10,940,000 (estimated)
    • Gross US & Canada
      • $542,420
    • Gross worldwide
      • $542,420
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    • Runtime
      • 2h 58m(178 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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