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Pas de larmes pour Joy

Original title: Poor Cow
  • 1967
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  • 1h 41m
IMDb RATING
6.8/10
2.1K
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Terence Stamp and Carol White in Pas de larmes pour Joy (1967)
CrimeDramaRomance

A young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most ... Read allA young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most important to her.A young woman lives a life full of bad choices. At a young age she has a baby by an abusive thief who quickly lands in prison. When her son goes missing, she gets to grips with what is most important to her.

  • Director
    • Ken Loach
  • Writers
    • Nell Dunn
    • Ken Loach
  • Stars
    • Terence Stamp
    • Carol White
    • John Bindon
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.8/10
    2.1K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Ken Loach
    • Writers
      • Nell Dunn
      • Ken Loach
    • Stars
      • Terence Stamp
      • Carol White
      • John Bindon
    • 36User reviews
    • 18Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 2 wins & 2 nominations total

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    Terence Stamp
    Terence Stamp
    • David 'Dave' Fuller
    Carol White
    Carol White
    • Joy
    John Bindon
    John Bindon
    • Tom
    Queenie Watts
    • Aunt Emm
    Kate Williams
    Kate Williams
    • Beryl
    Laurie Asprey
    James Beckett
    James Beckett
    • Tom's Mate
    Ray Barron
    • Customer in Pub
    Hilda Barry
    • Customer in Pub
    Ken Campbell
    • Mr. Jacks
    • (as Kenneth Campbell)
    Ronald Clarke
      Ellis Dale
      • Solicitor
      Gladys Dawson
      • Bet
      Terry Duggan
      • 2nd Prisoner
      Winnie Holman
      • Woman in Park
      Rose Hiller
      • Customer in Hairdresser's
      John Halstead
      • Photographer
      Doreen Herrington
      • Director
        • Ken Loach
      • Writers
        • Nell Dunn
        • Ken Loach
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      User reviews36

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      7cooked

      Social reflection

      Not a film of entertainment, but of real lives & limited ambition for the working class in 60's. Enjoyable because of my upbringing, not sure it'd work for most people. Typical Loach. Full of TV actors/actresses of 70's/80's/90's.
      7bakerjp

      There's no film in his camera.

      Recently released on British DVD, this is a good movie (as long as you have an attention span and IQ of more than a fruit fly). Not as depressing as it could have been, this is kitchen-sink at its most dirty. Terrance Stamp is great in it, the music is sweet, Carol White is very believeable as the single mum tart who can't stop loving criminals.

      My favourite scene is where Carol and her friend who works in the pub with her (the one with the enormous beehive hairdo which comes down over one eye) sit outisde and gossip about all the men who walk past.

      The only thing that marred this was the shakey acting of Carol's first husband, but if you can get past that, you're OK. And Donovan provides some of the most languid, mellow, bittersweet lyrics to come out of the 60s.
      6Lejink

      The other side of the swinging 60's

      You know what to expect when the first scene in Ken Loach's "Poor Cow" is a graphic image of Carol White's character giving birth to her son, although for my taste this was taking documentary realism to extremes. For the remainder of the film we follow White's progress, if that's the right word, for the next few years as she lives a mostly tawdry life on the edge of both poverty and legality, interacting with a mostly dubious set of individuals in not-so-swinging London in the mid-60's.

      The narrative is somewhat awkwardly interspersed with chapter plates, presumably written by White, although these don't actually aid the structure of the piece as the film progresses pretty much on a tangential basis although as an insight into her character's naive optimism and childlike simplicity, they may serve some purpose.

      Loach's soon to be trademark fly-on-the-wall camera-work is never still, long-shots, extreme close-ups, walking shots, tracking shots all to convince us like his acclaimed TV documentary "Cathy Come Home", of the previous year (with the same actress in the lead) of the veracity of his subject, stripping away all cinematic artifice. In this he succeeds, inviting no pity for her, only portraying her making do and working with what she has, with little prospect of escape.

      Of course this unremittingly bleak outlook can be overbearing and cold and there are many scenes where he could and should have called "Cut!" earlier, but as an insight into the working class of supposedly affluent Britain, it's important to hold up a mirror to society as he does here.

      In the final scenes, when White is reunited with her temporarily lost child, we are brought full-circle to that shocking opening scene as he reminds us that family love is perhaps the only true love. Whether it will be enough of a basis for White to break out and make a life for herself and her son is debatable so that some sort of a sequel might have been interesting to consider.

      The cast is an interesting one with Terence Stamp demonstrating his range as the crook who White falls for and who shows her a kind of loving, even as the film makes clear in the only stagy scene in the film, his courtroom trial, that there are no victimless crimes. As in "Cathy Come Home", White holds the viewer's attention with her disarming honesty, vulnerability and spirit. Interesting to see the notorious John Pindin in a prominent role too.

      You don't watch a Loach film for comfortable viewing but as an agent-provocateur, turning over stones most would step over, he's an important director in British cinema.
      cstailyour

      Radical film?

      In terms of style this film is revolutionary of the time. It could be defined as docudrama since the film is shot in a style of realism. It portrays 1960's London as a poverty stricken bed of prostitution and crime. The main female protagonist seems to always seek male approval. She leaps from one bed to another, loving each of them in much the same way as Diana does in "Darling" 1965. It is hardly an example of feminism and the Radical changes in women's liberation within the 1960's. It does, however, possess a view of hope through all the grit. Dave shows how even a criminal can be loving, gentle and kind. The film offers the audience a 2 hour exploration into the lives of the criminals in London at the time. It challenges the classic Hollywood narrative of peace, disruption and resolution. The narrative structure seems to float along with very little climaxs. This gives the feeling of realism, which many people may find dull or boring. Don't expect your Hollywood Blockbuster. You will find a challenging Independant British film, documenting the feelings of the 1960s in an innovative and unconventional way.
      7richardchatten

      Never Marry a Thief

      Beginning with an eye-watering sequence depicting the birth of Carol White's baby boy. Thanks to director 'Kenneth' (as he was then billed) Loach's restless camerawork (punctuated by Godardian captions) the sixties here sways rather than swings in a film that manages to encompass nearly a century of British film history through the presence in the same picture of both Wally Patch and Malcolm MacDowall (not to mention future sitcom stars Kate Williams and Anna Karen); and it's apt that over thirty years later scenes from this of the young and saturnine Terence Stamp strumming his guitar were employed as flashbacks in 'The Limey' (1999).

      Although it didn't seem like it at the time, we're now nearly twice as far from the sixties as the sixties were from the thirties. Life at the bottom of the heap remains as bleak in the twenty-first century as ever, and continues (doubtless to no one's regret more than Loach himself) to provide him with plenty of material. In his eighties he doesn't seem able to retire just yet.

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      • Trivia
        According to Terence Stamp, the film was mostly improvised and first takes were always used. Two cameras filmed simultaneously to capture the spontaneity of the performances.
      • Goofs
        The apostrophe is missing from the caption "At Aunt Emms.".
      • Quotes

        Joy: Yeah, don't forget to get me some nice sovereigns, gold ones.

        Dave: Oh, I'll try love. You know, not always made to order.

      • Alternate versions
        The BBFC website states that the original version had some sex references that were cut before its release in the 1960s. http://www.bbfc.co.uk/education-resources/student-guide/bbfc-history/1960s
      • Connections
        Edited into L'Anglais (1999)
      • Soundtracks
        Be Not Too Hard
        Music by Donovan and Lyrics by Christopher Logue

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      • Release date
        • June 16, 1969 (France)
      • Country of origin
        • United Kingdom
      • Language
        • English
      • Also known as
        • Pobre vaca
      • Filming locations
        • Fulham Broadway Underground Railway Station, Fulham Broadway, London, Greater London, England, UK(cafe interior opening credit sequence)
      • Production companies
        • Vic Films Productions
        • Fenchurch
        • The National Film Finance Corp.
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      • Gross worldwide
        • $15,709
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      • Runtime
        1 hour 41 minutes
      • Sound mix
        • Mono
      • Aspect ratio
        • 1.66 : 1

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