Une raison pour vivre, une raison pour mourir
Original title: Una ragione per vivere e una per morire
- 1972
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- 1h 59m
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Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.Branded a coward for surrendering his New Mexico fort to the Confederates without firing a shot, a Union colonel leads a band of condemned prisoners on a suicide mission to recapture it.
Reinhard Kolldehoff
- Sergeant Brent
- (as René Kolldehoff)
Francisco Sanz
- Farmer
- (as Paco Sanz)
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(1974) Massacre at Fort Holman/ Una ragione per vivere e una per morire
SPAGHETTI WESTERN
Only saw this as it's U. K. title "Massacre at Fort Holmanand" and not as it's American title "A Reason to Live, a Reason to Die!", one of many titles depending on where you live! Co-written and directed by Tonino Valerii which upon watching this, part of the movie's idea may have derived from the likes of "Dirty Dozen" and The Wild Bunch" and perhaps "The Magnificent Seven" movies which centers on the James Coburn character recruiting 7 to 8 men sentenced for a hanging to give them a choice to help him recoup his fort back from the Southern Confederacy lead by Telly Savalas. Motivating them to stick with him for hidden gold located somewhere along the fort. Unmemorable dialogue with consistency problems and overall uninvolving since they're aren't any twists or surprises.
Only saw this as it's U. K. title "Massacre at Fort Holmanand" and not as it's American title "A Reason to Live, a Reason to Die!", one of many titles depending on where you live! Co-written and directed by Tonino Valerii which upon watching this, part of the movie's idea may have derived from the likes of "Dirty Dozen" and The Wild Bunch" and perhaps "The Magnificent Seven" movies which centers on the James Coburn character recruiting 7 to 8 men sentenced for a hanging to give them a choice to help him recoup his fort back from the Southern Confederacy lead by Telly Savalas. Motivating them to stick with him for hidden gold located somewhere along the fort. Unmemorable dialogue with consistency problems and overall uninvolving since they're aren't any twists or surprises.
The spaghetti western sub-genre might have grown rancid by this period, but there are no doubts their titles were striking and creative, when which said simply rolled of your tongue. Tell me that this title isn't a lyrical joy. No stranger to the sub-genre with "My Name is Nobody" and "Day of Anger", director Tonino Valerii's 'A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die!" would be a hardy old-fashion western variation of "The Dirty Dozen". While it might be only half of that film, its remains an amusing fare thanks largely to the three central performances of Bud Spencer, James Coburn and Telly Savalas. The latter might not make an appearance until the hour mark, but it's the combination between the buoyant Spencer and low-key Coburn which drives it. The humour seems to come off thanks to Spencer timing and presence. Even though the greying Coburn and swaggering Savalas get top billing, it's Spencer who's really the star.
Like most films of this ilk, it's systematic with its staples as the theme of vengeance and redemption looms prominently. There's no real change of route, as it keeps it gritty and the straight-forward narrative never loses focuses, especially that of the character's motivations with it to throw up a sudden revelation (which my DVD synopsis' spoiled). The expandable characters are clichés, but workable as they serve their purpose with it ending on a bang. It actually starts with the end, to only retell the story from Spencer's character's point of view. This gives it like a mythical tale-like quality. It's well shot with a commendable music score. Valerii does a serviceable job behind the camera letting it move at a fair pace while constructing few intense scenes and cracking action sequences, like the delirious climatic showdown at the hillside forte (with it vivid locations), which had me thinking of "The Wild Bunch" (in which case Coburn would star in Peckinpah's "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid" the following year), but in the end you feel like there just wasn't enough going on. Some moments should have been much stronger than they were, like the personal battle between Coburn and Savalas.
Contrived, but tough and dirty entertainment.
Like most films of this ilk, it's systematic with its staples as the theme of vengeance and redemption looms prominently. There's no real change of route, as it keeps it gritty and the straight-forward narrative never loses focuses, especially that of the character's motivations with it to throw up a sudden revelation (which my DVD synopsis' spoiled). The expandable characters are clichés, but workable as they serve their purpose with it ending on a bang. It actually starts with the end, to only retell the story from Spencer's character's point of view. This gives it like a mythical tale-like quality. It's well shot with a commendable music score. Valerii does a serviceable job behind the camera letting it move at a fair pace while constructing few intense scenes and cracking action sequences, like the delirious climatic showdown at the hillside forte (with it vivid locations), which had me thinking of "The Wild Bunch" (in which case Coburn would star in Peckinpah's "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid" the following year), but in the end you feel like there just wasn't enough going on. Some moments should have been much stronger than they were, like the personal battle between Coburn and Savalas.
Contrived, but tough and dirty entertainment.
Who wouldn't jump at the chance to get off a gallows and take a chance at living? The motivation is, of course, gold...lot's of it. James Coburn does a very good job of portraying a soldier seeking justice for his murdered wife, and goes after Telly Sevallis with a vengance, using condemmed men as his team. Much like the Dirty Dozen, but without the military structure of WWII. Liked this movie but the sound track is typically Italian...overmodulated and scratchy. When I first saw this film I thought I was watching a Sergio Leone spaghetti western...even the music sounded the same. In spite of the similes and plagarised plots from other films in this genre, this one still turned out well. Good photography and special effects. Hope someday someone will remaster the sound and turn out a smashing DVD. Enjoy!
It is the American Civil War as envisioned by Italians, set apart from the main theaters of conflict, out in the southwestern desert. James Coburn is Col. Pembroke who has lost impregnable Ft. Holman to the Rebs and who has a private scheme to retrieve it along with his honor. He sets out on a commando expedition with a sergeant and a dirty half-dozen volunteers, scalawags freed from the gallows and kept in line (barely) with a promise of hidden gold. Telly Savalas is the Southern commander dreading Pembroke's reappearance. Some exciting action and tense situations, but credibility is strained when, with the Ft. Holman Gatling gun spraying shot into the parade ground, the Confederate troops show no interest in cover but keep milling in the open like ants from a hill goaded with a stick. Not a great or inspiring movie but a solid performance from Coburn. And for all the death there's not much blood.
"A Reason to Live, A Reason to Die" (1972) is a exciting, Civil War-set Spaghetti Western, directed by Sergio Leone's protégé Tonino Valerii and stars James Coburn, Telly Savalas and Bud Spencer.
The script by Rafael Azcona, Ernesto Gastaldi, Jay Lynn and Tonino Valerii is hardly original, amounting to nothing but a "Dirty Dozen" rehash, but it is adequate: during the American Civil War, the disgraced Colonel Pembroke (James Coburn) tries to retake a heavily defended fort that was taken by the Confederates from him without a shot fired, a mystery that helps drive his character, by using twelve recruits who he has saved from death sentences.
Despite the lack of originality in the screenplay department, the spirited direction makes the story rattle along at a breathless pace to the expertly staged, wholesale carnage at the end. Throughout, the the three leads fare remarkably well and are the only ones who are given any sort of more than superficial examination of their past. The music by Riz Ortolani, all powerful horns, is masterly, compensating for uninteresting photography.
The fast pace and direction help raise this Spaghetti Western into a higher plane, turning it into a very, very enjoyable film.
The script by Rafael Azcona, Ernesto Gastaldi, Jay Lynn and Tonino Valerii is hardly original, amounting to nothing but a "Dirty Dozen" rehash, but it is adequate: during the American Civil War, the disgraced Colonel Pembroke (James Coburn) tries to retake a heavily defended fort that was taken by the Confederates from him without a shot fired, a mystery that helps drive his character, by using twelve recruits who he has saved from death sentences.
Despite the lack of originality in the screenplay department, the spirited direction makes the story rattle along at a breathless pace to the expertly staged, wholesale carnage at the end. Throughout, the the three leads fare remarkably well and are the only ones who are given any sort of more than superficial examination of their past. The music by Riz Ortolani, all powerful horns, is masterly, compensating for uninteresting photography.
The fast pace and direction help raise this Spaghetti Western into a higher plane, turning it into a very, very enjoyable film.
Did you know
- TriviaThe homestead encountered when the group leave the train (at 43 minutes) is the same as the McBain homestead in Once Upon A Time In The West (1968)
- GoofsThe film is set in 1862 but features Gatling guns that, presumably, formed part of the fort's arsenal when it was in Union hands.The gun was designed by Dr Richard J Gatling in 1861 and patented on November 4, 1862. Though two examples were employed near Petersburg and eight fitted on gunboats, it was not accepted by the American Army until 1866. So it's most improbable that it would have been available in a remote theatre of the Civil War.
- Quotes
Colonello Pembroke: Gentlemen, I can promise you nothing, except a chance to die honorable, and possibly live. In any case, freedom at the end.
- Alternate versionsFor its initial American release, the film was cut to 92 minutes. This version still airs on the MGM-HD Channel.
- ConnectionsEdited into Dusk to Dawn Drive-In Trash-o-Rama Show Vol. 9 (2002)
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