Intelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.Intelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.Intelligent, sprawling saga that follows a squad of American soldiers through Europe during World War II.
- Nominated for 1 BAFTA Award
- 2 nominations total
- Pvt. George Baker
- (as Vincent Edwards)
- Pvt. Robert Grogan
- (as Jim Mitchum)
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I was 12 years old when Life magazine ran a spread on "The Victors" late in 1963, shortly before its release, and I recall the article was a bit negative in describing the film, as though the reviewer couldn't accept a film that depicted World War II so bleakly. Few films about Americans in that war had ever portrayed them so unheroically. (The only one I can think of is Robert Aldrich's "Attack!") The movie's Christmas season release in a country still reeling from the JFK assassination knocked this grim film out of theaters in a matter of three or four weeks. It was shown several times on the old CBS late movie series in the late '60s (where I first got to see it), but I've only seen it once on a premium cable presentation, in the mid-'90s. Several years ago I was able to obtain a 16mm print from the only rental house that offered it, but it was a scan-and-pan version from which some scenes had been cut.
One of these scenes, quickly trimmed from the initial release version, depicted a young European boy trying to sell a sexual service to American GIs; I think the other scene that was cut involved one of the female stars in the film. Even for the early 1960s, "The Victors" was a sexually frank film (without being in any way pornographic), which certainly must have offended some early viewers and exhibitors. Indeed, despite the American characters, the film really is more European in flavor and moral atmosphere. (Foreman, blacklisted by Hollywood in 1953, had been living in England for several years when he made the film, and his directorial style seems to owe much to the Italian neo-realists.)
(It's also interesting to contemplate that Foreman's previous film outing had been as writer and producer of "The Guns of Navarone." One is tempted to think that the gala heroics and spectacular action of that popular film may have prompted Foreman to make a more realistic war movie.)
The episodic format of "The Victors" also makes it a difficult viewing experience for people used to more continuity in their films. Foreman based the film rather faithfully on Alexander Baron's novel, "The Human Kind," itself essentially a collection of short sketches involving the same wartime characters (in the novel, they're British soldiers, but Foreman retained their names for the American film characters). Still, for a repeat viewer, it is possible to see the characters change through the episodes. Some of the characters disappear with no explanation, others are suddenly promoted, new characters appear unheralded. Life, and war, are like that sometimes. And there is some shrewd foreshadowing: Early in the film, Trower (George Hamilton) remarks that he hopes to meet a Russian soldier; and be sure to take careful note of Grogan (Jim Mitchum) in his first few scenes.
"The Victors" is not without humor or compassion, but Foreman's purpose was to eliminate the heroics and the excitement of combat and to demonstrate that, as much as we try to rationalize it, war is a degrading experience for all concerned. The corrupting of a lovely young musician (Romy Schneider) by an American soldier (Michael Callan), the fleeting affair between Baker (Vince Edwards)and a young Italian mother (Rosanna Schiaffino), the encounter between Sgt. Craig (Eli Wallach) and a shell-shocked French woman (Jeanne Moreau) -- all remain vivid in the memory.
Another interesting feature of "The Victors," which was not in the novel, is Foreman's use of wartime newsreels as counterpoint to the fictional scenes. Sometimes it's a little too cute, but mostly it works.
Foreman knew that most people who saw "The Victors" would have an idea of what war action was like, if only from earlier war movies. What he wanted to show, what few earlier war films ever showed, was the moral wear-and-tear of combat on solder and civilian alike, in victory or defeat. To a large extent he succeeds. This is a film well-deserving of DVD release (in its complete widescreen version). And if you like this film, go the TCM website and demand that they show it!
- tarmcgator
- Jul 12, 2007
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- TriviaThis film opened in London in the winter of 1963 at a length of 175 minutes and was universally criticized for being too long. It did not generate much box-office interest in this initial engagement and, by the time it went out on general release several weeks later, it had been trimmed by a little over a quarter of an hour. As it was a film filled with brief (or prolonged) episodes of war rather than one continuing plot-line, it was easy to shorten the film by taking out one episode in its entirety - a story concerning a young French orphan who is unofficially adopted by the platoon, and who, as the soldiers are horrified to discover, has survived the German occupation by becoming a child prostitute. This role was played by the French teenage actor Joel Flateau, who was still prominently billed on the film's posters and in the opening credit sequence. The film did no better at the box-office, and vanished from sight in Britain for many years, until, in 2004, it began to appear again on British television, and also got a DVD release in the same period. The episode was not restored, however, and Flateau's name was now excised from the credits. The film was also now missing other scenes, notably a brief one where some British soldiers, finding a piano in a ruined building, sing the traditional army song, "The Long And The Short And The Tall" - not in the usual bowdlerized version, but with liberal use of the F-word, which here was used for the first time in an English-language film.
- Goofs"Psst! Feind hört mit" meaning "Shh! Enemy is listening" appears in a scene on a wall. Then it changes to incorrect "Psst! Feine hört mit". Then it changes to the correct first version again.
- Quotes
[Craig is sound asleep in Philippe's old bed. Sounds of explosions and gunfire rage on outside, but he doesn't stir. A noise startles him awake and he grabs his gun barrel]
Sgt. Craig: Who's there?
[It's the French Woman. She's cowering in a corner of the bedroom]
French Woman: I'm sorry. I didn't want to disturb you, but I'm frightened. I just wanted to stay here, near someone.
Sgt. Craig: Those are our guns, I think.
French Woman: Mmm... It's not the guns, it's the planes! They were bombing till a moment ago, and you never woke up!
[She begins to sob]
French Woman: I slept for a while, and I haven't been able to since. I really don't know how you can sleep with all that!
[She and Craig hear explosions outside]
French Woman: I can't be alone. I just can't bear it anymore. Please... may I stay here? I won't bother you. Please!
[Craig lifts the covers of the bed, beckoning her in. Gratefully, she gets in beside him]
- Crazy creditsOpening credits prologue: ENGLAND, 1942
- Alternate versionsSome prints run 156 minutes.
- ConnectionsEdited into Bass on Titles (1982)
- SoundtracksMarch of The Victors
Written by Sol Kaplan Freddy Douglass
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- Runtime2 hours 55 minutes
- Color
- Aspect ratio
- 2.35 : 1