338 reviews
- Nazi_Fighter_David
- Jul 27, 1999
- Permalink
I imagine that many will say that this movie is dated. Since it is filmed in black and white, that will add to it being viewed as an old movie.
However, I believe the characters and acting lead to a most powerful movie. While we often see heroes and heroines portrayed as perfect people, the heroes and heroines in this movie seem much more true to life. They are wonderful, but never perfect. As such the movie hits closer to home and is more heart warming than most movies.
It did take a few minutes before I saw the greatness of this movie. At the start it almost seems a normal western. But as the characters unfold, coupled with excellent acting, the movie simply becomes much more. While John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart have been in many good movies, it is this movie that I likely will remember them the best.
However, I believe the characters and acting lead to a most powerful movie. While we often see heroes and heroines portrayed as perfect people, the heroes and heroines in this movie seem much more true to life. They are wonderful, but never perfect. As such the movie hits closer to home and is more heart warming than most movies.
It did take a few minutes before I saw the greatness of this movie. At the start it almost seems a normal western. But as the characters unfold, coupled with excellent acting, the movie simply becomes much more. While John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart have been in many good movies, it is this movie that I likely will remember them the best.
- rmax304823
- Jul 27, 2003
- Permalink
»The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance« (1962) wins a top spot among my favourite classic westerns. The first shots of the film take us to Shinbone, a border town in an unnamed Western state, and the arrival of Senator Rans Stoddard and his wife Hallie. The funeral of local small rancher Tom Doniphon brings them, after many years, back to the town where the senator began his career, becoming known as "the man" from the title line. In an interview with a young reporter and editor-in-chief of a local newspaper covering this occasion, hence in the accompanying retrospective, he tells a never-before-told story: the real truth about the early trigger of his sudden local popularity and the consequent lightning-fast rise on the political ladder... Avoiding the main spoiler, let it be only known that subsequent to hearing that far unknown, history changing facts, the editor-in-chief, to Ranse's surprise, theatrically tore up his reporter's notes, giving the following explanation, "when the legend becomes fact, print the legend." Thus uncompromising, legend goes on and, in the last scene on the train, thankful for the railroad's courtesies Ranse continues to be honoured with the answer that will force him to swallow lumps in his throat for the rest of his days and beyond, "Nothing's too good for the man who shot Liberty Valance!"
What is most interesting is that it was exactly Ford who has, in his rich oeuvre, often (but by no means exclusively) directed Westerns (or as he liked to introduce himself: "My name is John Ford and I make Westerns .") and built many of these myths and legends, but here, towards the end of his directorial career, he relativizes them.
Unfortunately, in the present world filled with overdependence on technology (that makes us conformists), intolerance to the hardships and inconveniences of nature, reduction of warm feelings and empathy as well as increased insensitivity among people... especially newer generations are becoming less exposed to the good stuff of the past, including John Ford's movies. Ford knew how to choose a perfect scenario or bring a less perfect one to perfection, and, although himself somewhat withdrawn and distanced, infused such a scenario with emotions and sentiment. Often he filled them with humour and the joy of life, but also wisdom and humanism, making them deeply woven into what a man actually is and thus engraved in the minds of generations of movie goers. Nowadays, somehow we have all forgotten the importance of such films that go beyond their simple purpose of being just a forgettable pastime, and the film "The Man Who Killed Liberty Valance" is exactly such a film that, seasoned with Ford's beautiful aesthetics, has an added value in itself and then for the culture and civilization which produced it.
Not even a decade after the golden age of Hollywood films, Ford warns of the danger that politics destroys the beauty in people, it erases the legend, while, in fact, the legend and the storytelling are more important to people than a purely political narrative. Here, and especially here, for the umpteenth time we experience the phenomenon of the western, the miracle of that once most popular genre, which does not reflect our lives in any obvious way (neither in the manner or content, nor in the location or scenography), and yet, though hard to believe, it appears as if in itself it keeps some kind of a core to each one of them (our lives). Furthermore, the action in the film is so universal that despite the fact that it is a complete fabrication, not based on a real place and events, it seems as if we are watching a documentary presentation of historical events. And whenever a film portrays a historically important time, whether real or imaginable, it is very interesting to experience that cinematic meta-moment prophetically dedicated to events that will only happen, once or repeatedly, thus reversing sentimentality for the past, a nostalgia, and advancing it to the predictable future. Included here are depictions of a free press, town meetings, territorial conventions and statehood debates, subjecting politics to interest lobbies and corruption, violence in elections... foreseeing their future recurrences and anticipating nostalgia for them.
The acting contributions are very worth mentioning. Despite his shorter screen time, thanks to his usual commanding presence John Wayne skilfully brings about the pivotal role of Tom Doniphon, while both main opponents show versatility of their onscreen persona at times of temptation: Lee Marvin as infamous outlaw, tough and mean Liberty Valance, shows weakness when, subsequent to his failed attempt to get nominated for the regional delegate to the upcoming statehood convention at the territorial capital, he resorts to excessive vandalism and then drowns his frustration in alcohol, while James Stewart as Ransom "Ranse" Stoddard, at first, after Valance bullies him in the restaurant, begins practicing with an old gun, and then responds to Valance's gunfight challenge when his attempts to bring Valance to justice through the law fail. Outstanding in supporting roles are Vera Miles (who, sadly, missed an earlier opportunity to join Jimmy Stewart in another magnum opus, Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo," due to her real-life pregnancy at the time) as the not-meant-to-be Tom's, eventually Ranse's wife Hallie Stoddard, Edmond O'Brien as Dutton Peabody, founder, owner, editor of the local free press (the Shinbone Star), uncompromising "old servant of the public weal", waiting for his "shining hour" ... yet to come," who, also, "sweeps out the place", Woody Strode as Pompey, Tom Doniphon's hired hand, John Carradine as Maj. Cassius Starbuckle, speaker on behalf of the cattle barons at the territorial convention, Strother Martin and Lee Van Cleef as Floyd and Reese, Valance's myrmidons, Andy Devine as the fearful Sheriff Link Appleyard, looking only for the ways not to have beef with the criminals but rather a free beef on his plate, and some more, all benefiting from Ford's unique way of handling actors, bringing out the best in them, as many acknowledged subsequently.
What is most interesting is that it was exactly Ford who has, in his rich oeuvre, often (but by no means exclusively) directed Westerns (or as he liked to introduce himself: "My name is John Ford and I make Westerns .") and built many of these myths and legends, but here, towards the end of his directorial career, he relativizes them.
Unfortunately, in the present world filled with overdependence on technology (that makes us conformists), intolerance to the hardships and inconveniences of nature, reduction of warm feelings and empathy as well as increased insensitivity among people... especially newer generations are becoming less exposed to the good stuff of the past, including John Ford's movies. Ford knew how to choose a perfect scenario or bring a less perfect one to perfection, and, although himself somewhat withdrawn and distanced, infused such a scenario with emotions and sentiment. Often he filled them with humour and the joy of life, but also wisdom and humanism, making them deeply woven into what a man actually is and thus engraved in the minds of generations of movie goers. Nowadays, somehow we have all forgotten the importance of such films that go beyond their simple purpose of being just a forgettable pastime, and the film "The Man Who Killed Liberty Valance" is exactly such a film that, seasoned with Ford's beautiful aesthetics, has an added value in itself and then for the culture and civilization which produced it.
Not even a decade after the golden age of Hollywood films, Ford warns of the danger that politics destroys the beauty in people, it erases the legend, while, in fact, the legend and the storytelling are more important to people than a purely political narrative. Here, and especially here, for the umpteenth time we experience the phenomenon of the western, the miracle of that once most popular genre, which does not reflect our lives in any obvious way (neither in the manner or content, nor in the location or scenography), and yet, though hard to believe, it appears as if in itself it keeps some kind of a core to each one of them (our lives). Furthermore, the action in the film is so universal that despite the fact that it is a complete fabrication, not based on a real place and events, it seems as if we are watching a documentary presentation of historical events. And whenever a film portrays a historically important time, whether real or imaginable, it is very interesting to experience that cinematic meta-moment prophetically dedicated to events that will only happen, once or repeatedly, thus reversing sentimentality for the past, a nostalgia, and advancing it to the predictable future. Included here are depictions of a free press, town meetings, territorial conventions and statehood debates, subjecting politics to interest lobbies and corruption, violence in elections... foreseeing their future recurrences and anticipating nostalgia for them.
The acting contributions are very worth mentioning. Despite his shorter screen time, thanks to his usual commanding presence John Wayne skilfully brings about the pivotal role of Tom Doniphon, while both main opponents show versatility of their onscreen persona at times of temptation: Lee Marvin as infamous outlaw, tough and mean Liberty Valance, shows weakness when, subsequent to his failed attempt to get nominated for the regional delegate to the upcoming statehood convention at the territorial capital, he resorts to excessive vandalism and then drowns his frustration in alcohol, while James Stewart as Ransom "Ranse" Stoddard, at first, after Valance bullies him in the restaurant, begins practicing with an old gun, and then responds to Valance's gunfight challenge when his attempts to bring Valance to justice through the law fail. Outstanding in supporting roles are Vera Miles (who, sadly, missed an earlier opportunity to join Jimmy Stewart in another magnum opus, Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo," due to her real-life pregnancy at the time) as the not-meant-to-be Tom's, eventually Ranse's wife Hallie Stoddard, Edmond O'Brien as Dutton Peabody, founder, owner, editor of the local free press (the Shinbone Star), uncompromising "old servant of the public weal", waiting for his "shining hour" ... yet to come," who, also, "sweeps out the place", Woody Strode as Pompey, Tom Doniphon's hired hand, John Carradine as Maj. Cassius Starbuckle, speaker on behalf of the cattle barons at the territorial convention, Strother Martin and Lee Van Cleef as Floyd and Reese, Valance's myrmidons, Andy Devine as the fearful Sheriff Link Appleyard, looking only for the ways not to have beef with the criminals but rather a free beef on his plate, and some more, all benefiting from Ford's unique way of handling actors, bringing out the best in them, as many acknowledged subsequently.
- Davor_Blazevic_1959
- Apr 21, 2024
- Permalink
"This is the west, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend". - Maxwell Scott, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance In John Ford's most mournful tale, the legendary director asks the question "How did this present come to be? Just how did an inferior race of men whose only weapon was that of law and books defeat the old gunslingers of the great West? Just what exactly happened to the Western heroes portrayed by John Wayne when law and order came to town? How did the wilderness turn into a garden? In The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, John Ford depicts a world where everyone has got everything they wanted, but nobody seems happy with it
sound familiar to anyone? Senator Ransom Stoddard (James Stewart) arrives to Shinbone on a train with his wife Hallie (Vera Miles) to visit the funeral of an old friend named Tom Doniphon (John Wayne, remarkably the film opens where this iconic star is dead). The newspaper men have never heard of him, so why would such a powerful political figure visit the town to attend this funeral of a "nobody"? Through the use of a flashback, Stoddard tells us the tale of how he came to the town as a young lawyer but was immediately attacked by the psychotic villain Liberty Valance (terrifyingly played by Lee Marvin) who teaches him "Western law". The rest of the film tells the tale of how the man of books eventually defeated the race of the gunslinger and what sacrifices had to be made for that to happen.
In truth, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is more of a melodrama than a Western. Gone are the vibrant landscapes of Ford's landmark movie The Searchers six years earlier, which was so proudly promoted as being in VISTAVISION WIDESCREEN COLOR and instead the film has given way to a bleak, claustrophobic black and white tale, with so many enclosed sets and not one shot of Monument Valley.
There's a lack of a real bar scene, lack of shots of the landscape, lack of horses, lack of gunfights. It's a psychological Western, probably unlike anything ever filmed until maybe Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven.
Why is this movie so good then? In basic terms, it's about the sadness of progression and without giving way too much away the film tells a remarkable tale which truly does examine what Ford's view of the West as promoted in his earlier work truly meant. It's a tragic and pessimistic movie but it's a rewarding one, with huge replay value and one that leaves you with so many more questions than it does answers.
Do we prefer the legendary tale of our heroes or the truth? Are tales of people such as 'The Man With No Name' just more interesting than Wyatt Earp? Is living a lie as a successful guy better or worse than quietly dying as a hero? The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is one of the most complex Westerns that has ever been put on film and is a remarkable film when you consider it was directed by a guy who made his living telling grandeur tales of the American West. Well acted, very well written and is one of the most rewarding Westerns for replay value in the history of the genre.
Matt Holmes
www.obsessedwithfilm.com
In truth, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is more of a melodrama than a Western. Gone are the vibrant landscapes of Ford's landmark movie The Searchers six years earlier, which was so proudly promoted as being in VISTAVISION WIDESCREEN COLOR and instead the film has given way to a bleak, claustrophobic black and white tale, with so many enclosed sets and not one shot of Monument Valley.
There's a lack of a real bar scene, lack of shots of the landscape, lack of horses, lack of gunfights. It's a psychological Western, probably unlike anything ever filmed until maybe Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven.
Why is this movie so good then? In basic terms, it's about the sadness of progression and without giving way too much away the film tells a remarkable tale which truly does examine what Ford's view of the West as promoted in his earlier work truly meant. It's a tragic and pessimistic movie but it's a rewarding one, with huge replay value and one that leaves you with so many more questions than it does answers.
Do we prefer the legendary tale of our heroes or the truth? Are tales of people such as 'The Man With No Name' just more interesting than Wyatt Earp? Is living a lie as a successful guy better or worse than quietly dying as a hero? The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is one of the most complex Westerns that has ever been put on film and is a remarkable film when you consider it was directed by a guy who made his living telling grandeur tales of the American West. Well acted, very well written and is one of the most rewarding Westerns for replay value in the history of the genre.
Matt Holmes
www.obsessedwithfilm.com
- mattyholmes2004
- Aug 1, 2007
- Permalink
- jandesimpson
- Aug 21, 2003
- Permalink
Senator James Stewart and his wife Vera Miles get a telegram from their old home in Shinbone about the death of a friend. They arrive in Shinbone and go to a sparsely attended service. When prodded a bit by the editor of the Shinbone Star, a paper he was once employed at, Stewart sits down and tells the story of just how his political career got its start.
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is John Ford's final homage to the western film genre that made his reputation. It's maybe the most nostalgic of westerns he ever did. Beginning with the cast all of whom are way too old for their parts. But if you notice there's a kind of soft focus photography used on John Wayne, James Stewart, and Lee Marvin which masks their age. The skill of these players does the rest.
Stewart arrives in Shinbone, a newly minted attorney who has taken Horace Greeley's advice and the stagecoach he's riding on gets held up by the local outlaw Liberty Valance and henchmen. When Stewart protests Valance, played by Lee Marvin beats him with the butt end of a silver knob whip and leaves him on the road.
He's found by John Wayne who brings him to Shinbone to get medical attention. Stewart stays with restaurant owners John Qualen and Jenanette Nolan and their daughter Vera Miles who's Wayne's girl. Miles who can't even read or write takes quite a shine to the educated easterner.
But Stewart and newspaper editor Edmond O'Brien keep getting on Liberty Valance's bad side, especially when they come out publicly for statehood whereas the big cattle ranchers who hire Liberty Valance and henchmen want to keep this part of the USA a territory for as long as they can. This is all leading to an inevitable showdown.
Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance is one evil man. No subtle psychology here, no explanations of a mom who didn't love him or a girl that dumped him, he's just an evil guy who likes being evil. If Liberty has any redeeming qualities, despite repeated viewings of this film, I haven't found any. Marvin clearly enjoyed this part, but he never turned it into a burlesque of himself. That he waited for Cat Ballou to do.
John Wayne who by this time was playing more roughhewn types than he did when he was Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, gets back to that kind of a portrayal here. He's more Ringo than he is Ethan Edwards. But that's at the beginning. Over the course of the film he changes into something like Ethan Edwards, his character from The Searchers. What happens to make him that way in fact is the story of the film.
But actually the film really does belong to Stewart. He's on screen for most of it, he's the protagonist here and until almost the end, what's happening to him is what The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is all about.
Ford once again rounds out his cast with many of his favorite players in support. Andy Devine as the cowardly marshal, John Carradine as a pompous windbag politician, Woody Strode, Denver Pyle, Strother Martin, all who had appeared in Ford films before.
There are two to single out however. This was the last film Jack Pennick ever did with John Ford. You might not know his name, but he and that horse-face countenance appeared in just about every sound John Ford film there is. He has a bit role as a bartender. Pennick died after completing this film.
Edmond O'Brien made his one and only appearance in this film as Dutton Peabody, founder, editor, and owner of the Shinbone Star and as he said himself, he sweeps the place out occasionally. He's a regular character in Ford films, the wise friend of the hero who has a bit of a drinking problem. Kind of like Thomas Mitchell as Doc Boone in Stagecoach.
Like Stewart, O'Brien is an eastern immigrant who came west to be his own newspaper editor like his former boss Horace Greeley. Words are his weapons, like the law is Stewart's. It's no wonder that these two annoy Lee Marvin so. Even the fast draw hired gun can't kill public opinion.
When they're both chosen as Shinbone's Delegates to the territorial convention it is O'Brien who makes the nominating speech to draft Stewart for the job. It is one of his finest bits in his long and distinguished career. It encapsulates a lot of what Ford was trying to say about progress and progress in the American west. In the end it is the farmer, the merchant, the builder of cities will eventually triumph just about anywhere. Stewart and he are as much pioneers as Wayne and the others in Shinbone are, they're just the next logical step.
Progress always comes at a price. We see the price in the beginning and the end of the film, the scenes of Shinbone during the early Twentieth Century. The paved streets, the electric lights are there because of who came before and what they did. There wasn't room in the changing west for many like Wayne and Marvin, their time came and went, just as Stewart's time came and went too.
Actually I think the real winner in this film was always Vera Miles. She started out as an illiterate girl working in her parent's restaurant and wound up the wife of a United States Senator. That's progress too.
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is John Ford's final homage to the western film genre that made his reputation. It's maybe the most nostalgic of westerns he ever did. Beginning with the cast all of whom are way too old for their parts. But if you notice there's a kind of soft focus photography used on John Wayne, James Stewart, and Lee Marvin which masks their age. The skill of these players does the rest.
Stewart arrives in Shinbone, a newly minted attorney who has taken Horace Greeley's advice and the stagecoach he's riding on gets held up by the local outlaw Liberty Valance and henchmen. When Stewart protests Valance, played by Lee Marvin beats him with the butt end of a silver knob whip and leaves him on the road.
He's found by John Wayne who brings him to Shinbone to get medical attention. Stewart stays with restaurant owners John Qualen and Jenanette Nolan and their daughter Vera Miles who's Wayne's girl. Miles who can't even read or write takes quite a shine to the educated easterner.
But Stewart and newspaper editor Edmond O'Brien keep getting on Liberty Valance's bad side, especially when they come out publicly for statehood whereas the big cattle ranchers who hire Liberty Valance and henchmen want to keep this part of the USA a territory for as long as they can. This is all leading to an inevitable showdown.
Lee Marvin as Liberty Valance is one evil man. No subtle psychology here, no explanations of a mom who didn't love him or a girl that dumped him, he's just an evil guy who likes being evil. If Liberty has any redeeming qualities, despite repeated viewings of this film, I haven't found any. Marvin clearly enjoyed this part, but he never turned it into a burlesque of himself. That he waited for Cat Ballou to do.
John Wayne who by this time was playing more roughhewn types than he did when he was Ringo Kid in Stagecoach, gets back to that kind of a portrayal here. He's more Ringo than he is Ethan Edwards. But that's at the beginning. Over the course of the film he changes into something like Ethan Edwards, his character from The Searchers. What happens to make him that way in fact is the story of the film.
But actually the film really does belong to Stewart. He's on screen for most of it, he's the protagonist here and until almost the end, what's happening to him is what The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is all about.
Ford once again rounds out his cast with many of his favorite players in support. Andy Devine as the cowardly marshal, John Carradine as a pompous windbag politician, Woody Strode, Denver Pyle, Strother Martin, all who had appeared in Ford films before.
There are two to single out however. This was the last film Jack Pennick ever did with John Ford. You might not know his name, but he and that horse-face countenance appeared in just about every sound John Ford film there is. He has a bit role as a bartender. Pennick died after completing this film.
Edmond O'Brien made his one and only appearance in this film as Dutton Peabody, founder, editor, and owner of the Shinbone Star and as he said himself, he sweeps the place out occasionally. He's a regular character in Ford films, the wise friend of the hero who has a bit of a drinking problem. Kind of like Thomas Mitchell as Doc Boone in Stagecoach.
Like Stewart, O'Brien is an eastern immigrant who came west to be his own newspaper editor like his former boss Horace Greeley. Words are his weapons, like the law is Stewart's. It's no wonder that these two annoy Lee Marvin so. Even the fast draw hired gun can't kill public opinion.
When they're both chosen as Shinbone's Delegates to the territorial convention it is O'Brien who makes the nominating speech to draft Stewart for the job. It is one of his finest bits in his long and distinguished career. It encapsulates a lot of what Ford was trying to say about progress and progress in the American west. In the end it is the farmer, the merchant, the builder of cities will eventually triumph just about anywhere. Stewart and he are as much pioneers as Wayne and the others in Shinbone are, they're just the next logical step.
Progress always comes at a price. We see the price in the beginning and the end of the film, the scenes of Shinbone during the early Twentieth Century. The paved streets, the electric lights are there because of who came before and what they did. There wasn't room in the changing west for many like Wayne and Marvin, their time came and went, just as Stewart's time came and went too.
Actually I think the real winner in this film was always Vera Miles. She started out as an illiterate girl working in her parent's restaurant and wound up the wife of a United States Senator. That's progress too.
- bkoganbing
- Oct 8, 2005
- Permalink
This prestigious film narrated in flashbacks is realized by a master filmmaker like John Ford does what he knows best , like making the classic ¨Stagecoach¨or the masterpieces ¨Wagonmaster¨or ¨Fort Apache¨or ¨The searchers¨that reflected the conscience and the anger of the West time or the immortal blend of tenderness and power in ¨They wore yellow ribbon¨ and another;as he gained a quarter of Academy Awards in the process. Besides this movie is bringing America's frontier to heroic life filmed against a breathtaking sweep of sky,sand and mountain and brings two great stars(Wayne,Stewart) together for the first time in a heroic epic about winning of the West to enact the most powerful scenes that ever came out the West. It's a story enormous in scope,unusual in concept ,is incomparably played by the greatest team who ever went into action.
Trigger-taut drama of the strangest alliance between the West's most honest advocate (James Stewart) and a fast-gun he-man (John Wayne) but confronted for a woman's heart (Vera Miles). The film deals with the progress civilization and the oblivion to whom made it . From the James Warner Bella and Willis Goldbeck (producer as well) screenplay comes the story of the day the West will never forget , the day what the attorney at law Ramson Stoddard (Stewart) carried a gun and he will tell : it's a cold-blooded murder but I can live with it . John Wayne as Tom Doniphon plays the usual role as tough and valiant action man by means the force , beyond the law , he achieves the democratic liberty in Shinbone town . Villanous Lee Marvin as the nastiest gunfighter and his henchmen (Lee Van Cleef and Strother Martin) are supported by the cattleman and wealthy owners confronting for the open range against the homesteaders . The movie ensembles a magnificent supporting cast as Andy Devine as the coward and ridiculous sheriff , the drunk journalist Edmond O'Brien , Jeanette Nolan , John Carradine ,John Qualen... This picture is considered an American classic and one of the greatest Western motion pictures.
Trigger-taut drama of the strangest alliance between the West's most honest advocate (James Stewart) and a fast-gun he-man (John Wayne) but confronted for a woman's heart (Vera Miles). The film deals with the progress civilization and the oblivion to whom made it . From the James Warner Bella and Willis Goldbeck (producer as well) screenplay comes the story of the day the West will never forget , the day what the attorney at law Ramson Stoddard (Stewart) carried a gun and he will tell : it's a cold-blooded murder but I can live with it . John Wayne as Tom Doniphon plays the usual role as tough and valiant action man by means the force , beyond the law , he achieves the democratic liberty in Shinbone town . Villanous Lee Marvin as the nastiest gunfighter and his henchmen (Lee Van Cleef and Strother Martin) are supported by the cattleman and wealthy owners confronting for the open range against the homesteaders . The movie ensembles a magnificent supporting cast as Andy Devine as the coward and ridiculous sheriff , the drunk journalist Edmond O'Brien , Jeanette Nolan , John Carradine ,John Qualen... This picture is considered an American classic and one of the greatest Western motion pictures.
- stephenclark1
- Mar 10, 2007
- Permalink
- Fella_shibby
- Dec 15, 2019
- Permalink
It's a caricature of a western set in a western territory, possibly Colorado, around 1900, with a flashback to the 1870s. It follows a young lawyer moving to the small town of Shinbone to open a law practice and encountering an outlaw who initially beats him and later bullies him into a gunfight.
Ransom Stoddard (James Stewart) is an older Senator returning to Shinbone for the funeral of Tom Doniphon (John Wayne). The local newspaper asks for an interview about his time in Shinbone, and he tells the story in a lengthy flashback.
Ransom comes by stagecoach as a young lawyer to set up a law office in Shinbone. Before getting to town, a well-known local outlaw, Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin), robs and beats him. With no money, he's forced to wash dishes in the kitchen of a Swedish restaurant run by Peter (John Qualen) and Nora Ericson (Jeanette Nolan). They have a beautiful but illiterate daughter, Hallie (Vera Miles). Tom Doniphon, a local horse trader, plans to marry Hallie after he gets an addition built to his small home with the help of his African American helper, Pompey (Woody Strode).
Ransom sets up his law office with the local newspaper publisher, Dutton Peabody (Edmond O'Brien), who is an alcoholic but brave reporter on the issue of the territory pursuing statehood against the opposition of the large ranchers north of the river. The ranchers utilize Valance to intimidate the townspeople and settlers south of the river, as well as the cowardly Marshall Link Appleyard (Andy Devine).
Despite the conflict with Liberty Valance, Ransom refuses to carry a gun, despite the warning of Tom, who has become a friend. Then Ransom starts to practice with an old revolver. After additional insults and challenges by Valance, they end up in a climactic confrontation. We then learn how Ransom Stoddard survived, why he ended up with Hallie, and what happened after the fight.
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" is a caricature bordering on satire because all the characters are exaggerations of believable people. James Stewart, in his 50s, tries to play a young lawyer with a love interest more than 20 years younger than he is. The town newspaperman and doctor are both drunks. The Marshall is afraid of his shadow. John Wayne, also in his 50s, is the tough guy made in his image. The townspeople play cards with Liberty Valance even though they're deathly afraid of him. Lee Marvin is an over-the-top outlaw. Twenty-five years after he began making classic westerns, John Ford should have done better. There's no nuance in the movie.
Ransom Stoddard (James Stewart) is an older Senator returning to Shinbone for the funeral of Tom Doniphon (John Wayne). The local newspaper asks for an interview about his time in Shinbone, and he tells the story in a lengthy flashback.
Ransom comes by stagecoach as a young lawyer to set up a law office in Shinbone. Before getting to town, a well-known local outlaw, Liberty Valance (Lee Marvin), robs and beats him. With no money, he's forced to wash dishes in the kitchen of a Swedish restaurant run by Peter (John Qualen) and Nora Ericson (Jeanette Nolan). They have a beautiful but illiterate daughter, Hallie (Vera Miles). Tom Doniphon, a local horse trader, plans to marry Hallie after he gets an addition built to his small home with the help of his African American helper, Pompey (Woody Strode).
Ransom sets up his law office with the local newspaper publisher, Dutton Peabody (Edmond O'Brien), who is an alcoholic but brave reporter on the issue of the territory pursuing statehood against the opposition of the large ranchers north of the river. The ranchers utilize Valance to intimidate the townspeople and settlers south of the river, as well as the cowardly Marshall Link Appleyard (Andy Devine).
Despite the conflict with Liberty Valance, Ransom refuses to carry a gun, despite the warning of Tom, who has become a friend. Then Ransom starts to practice with an old revolver. After additional insults and challenges by Valance, they end up in a climactic confrontation. We then learn how Ransom Stoddard survived, why he ended up with Hallie, and what happened after the fight.
"The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" is a caricature bordering on satire because all the characters are exaggerations of believable people. James Stewart, in his 50s, tries to play a young lawyer with a love interest more than 20 years younger than he is. The town newspaperman and doctor are both drunks. The Marshall is afraid of his shadow. John Wayne, also in his 50s, is the tough guy made in his image. The townspeople play cards with Liberty Valance even though they're deathly afraid of him. Lee Marvin is an over-the-top outlaw. Twenty-five years after he began making classic westerns, John Ford should have done better. There's no nuance in the movie.
- steiner-sam
- Feb 8, 2023
- Permalink
- mhesselius
- Jul 20, 2010
- Permalink
Other reviewers, aside from seeing this as the end of the classic western, saw the plot as myth granting to one man that which was rightfully another's. I disagree. I see TMWSLV as a tale of a man stepping aside for the sake of a better man and a better world, at great personal cost.
I view Tom as someone who has lived a cynical life--kill it before it kills you. With the advent of Ransom he recognizes that there is a better way, and that Ransom, by defying evil from a position of weakness, is far braver than Tom, who has merely defied evil from a position of strength. Additionally, Ransom brings about an answer to the question "must the sword rule forever?" with a resounding "no," a denial that at first seems foolish to Tom, but who then realizes that things really should be Ransom's way.
And so Tom, knowing that one of them is the better man, allows that better man to receive the fame attendant to heroism; and in fact Ransom, for daring what Tom never did dare, is the true hero of the tale. Like all honest men must, Tom steps aside for the better man, knowing what it will cost him to do what is right.
An earlier reviewer said that the depiction of the politics was a parody; in fact, the politics of the early portion of the republics was even more lively (read: pugnacious) than is depicted in the film.
I view Tom as someone who has lived a cynical life--kill it before it kills you. With the advent of Ransom he recognizes that there is a better way, and that Ransom, by defying evil from a position of weakness, is far braver than Tom, who has merely defied evil from a position of strength. Additionally, Ransom brings about an answer to the question "must the sword rule forever?" with a resounding "no," a denial that at first seems foolish to Tom, but who then realizes that things really should be Ransom's way.
And so Tom, knowing that one of them is the better man, allows that better man to receive the fame attendant to heroism; and in fact Ransom, for daring what Tom never did dare, is the true hero of the tale. Like all honest men must, Tom steps aside for the better man, knowing what it will cost him to do what is right.
An earlier reviewer said that the depiction of the politics was a parody; in fact, the politics of the early portion of the republics was even more lively (read: pugnacious) than is depicted in the film.
- classicsoncall
- Aug 6, 2006
- Permalink
This was a film that my class had to watch in a High School Literature class, so it has been a little while since I watched it. Although it is classified as a western film, it does not really follow through with what most would consider a western; it takes place in the western states, and the characters are cowboys, but it is a civilised film following the different characters and their fate. I could not find anything to fault with this film whatsoever. It was engaging and entertaining and was shown to us in school as an example of good film-making. I cannot agree more with that comment. I think that everyone should watch this film and think about what this film teaches.
I just read the comments of someone from August 30, 2004, who had reached the conclusion that John Wayne's character had stepped aside "for the better man," played by Jimmy Stewart. From my view, nothing could be farther from the truth. For all Ransom Stoddard's disdain for frontier violence, in the end, he was left with no choice but to pick-up a gun to finally silence Liberty Valance, something Valance knew better than to do with Wayne's Tom Doniphon. Call Stoddard the idealist and Doniphon the realist, but don't call him the better man. In 1946, John Ford directed My Darling Clementine, perfectly blending Wayne and Henry Fonda with his usual cast of characters to create a masterwork. Sixteen years later, he put Wayne together with Stewart (plus all the ol' gang) and made another peerless film. There was a time I didn't really "get" John Ford and John Wayne. One day, I awoke and now, the greatness of these two giants of the cinema is undeniable.
I first saw "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence" as a young kid, and I guess seeing a masterpiece early in life spoils you. There have not been too many western movies like this one, and will probably never be again. John Wayne and Jimmy Stewart together, along with Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Edmond O'Brien and Andy Devine cast beautifully. Director John Ford's legacy is in place as it is obvious that true pros did more than just read a great script. Marvin is a cruel villian, and the mixture of hero John Wayne, and anti-hero Stewart bring a stark contrast to the black and white images on screen. The cast is truly colorful and each scene memorable. It is one of the great westerns and great movies of all time.
Eastern lawyer travels West, learns the hard way that living out with the coyotes isn't as simple as he thought it would be. Tough, growly John Ford western with James Stewart appropriately grim and nervous, John Wayne colorfully swaggering as a rancher who vies with him for the hand of good-girl Vera Miles (whose pained expressions of devotion are unintentionally funny). Ford is much more careful with the supporting performances, and he gets just what is needed from Lee Marvin as the gunslinger who challenges Stewart. The action sequences and the comic asides are far more enjoyable than the political rabble-rousing, but Ford does some amazing, show-off things with his camera that keeps the movie from getting too sticky. *** from ****
- moonspinner55
- Apr 28, 2007
- Permalink
Although I have seen this movie numerous times, I am just getting around to commenting on it. I measure other films against it when I see them. The James Stewart, John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, and Woody Strode performances are magnificent. It is important to note the contributions of past and future notables: Andy Devine, Lee Van Cleef (Hang'em High), and Strother Martin (Cool Hand Luke).
This movie captures some of the aspects of how hard life was on the western frontier towns and how they sprang up and died later in the era. Also, it it depicts how law and order are just as important today as in that time. Without L&O, you are in just another "third world" broken nation.
A superb motion picture!
This movie captures some of the aspects of how hard life was on the western frontier towns and how they sprang up and died later in the era. Also, it it depicts how law and order are just as important today as in that time. Without L&O, you are in just another "third world" broken nation.
A superb motion picture!
John Ford directs this western story that opens with Senator Ransom Stoddard(played by Jimmy Stewart) arriving by train in the town of Shinbone, to attend the funeral of old friend Tom Doniphon(John Wayne). He tells a local newspaper reporter about his first arrival in Shinbone by stagecoach, where it is robbed by a bullying ruffian named Liberty Valance(Lee Marvin, well cast) As a young lawyer left only with his law books, he gets a job in a local restaurant as a dishwasher, only to run afoul of Valance again, who is being used by local landowners who oppose proposed statehood. Stoddard is approached to be a representative, and after being challenged by Liberty, is elected, though Valance decides that only a showdown can settle things...
Thoughtful and effective film is more a showcase for Stewart than Wayne, much the same way Stoddard comes to overshadow Tom, though both actors are equally memorable, as are the characters they play.
Thoughtful and effective film is more a showcase for Stewart than Wayne, much the same way Stoddard comes to overshadow Tom, though both actors are equally memorable, as are the characters they play.
- AaronCapenBanner
- Oct 6, 2013
- Permalink
Based on a short story by Dorothy M. Johnson, THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE tells the story of Ransom Stoddard, an eastern attorney who has the misfortune to be victimized by notorious outlaw Liberty Valance during a stagecoach robbery. Left for dead, Stoddard is rescued by rancher Tom Doniphon and brought to the small town of Shinbone. Disgusted by the lawlessness of the area, he determines to use not a gun but the law itself to end Valance's reign of terror.
Released in 1962, VALANCE was among the last films directed by John Ford, who was more closely associated with the Western than any other Hollywood director--and in one sense it certainly has the classic "good guy vs. bad guy" plot one expects from from a western classic. But Ford was not a superficial artist, and VALANCE is a remarkably multi-layered film that plays much deeper than you might expect.
Tom Doniphon is all that is right about the west; Liberty Valance is all that is wrong. But both are part and parcel of the same code, a society in which law and order are merely words on the lips of a cowardly marshal, a world where a man either dominates through fear or is dominated by it. It is a world that is coming to an end--and Rance Stoddard is in the vanguard of the new civilization. Both Doniphon and Liberty must fall before Stoddard if the worst of the west is to be tamed.
The cast is superior. James Stewart (Stoddard) and John Wayne (Doniphon) have unexpected chemistry on screen, and Lee Marvin (Valance) is easily one of the most unpleasant black-hats you could ever want to see in a western, vicious to the point of being psychotic. Supporting players Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmund O'Brien, and Woody Strode are equally fine. Although the script is occasionally a shade overwrought, it is laced with a very fine irony and sense of loss, and John Ford brings all the various pieces together without beating the viewer to death in the process.
GFT, Amazon Reviewer
Released in 1962, VALANCE was among the last films directed by John Ford, who was more closely associated with the Western than any other Hollywood director--and in one sense it certainly has the classic "good guy vs. bad guy" plot one expects from from a western classic. But Ford was not a superficial artist, and VALANCE is a remarkably multi-layered film that plays much deeper than you might expect.
Tom Doniphon is all that is right about the west; Liberty Valance is all that is wrong. But both are part and parcel of the same code, a society in which law and order are merely words on the lips of a cowardly marshal, a world where a man either dominates through fear or is dominated by it. It is a world that is coming to an end--and Rance Stoddard is in the vanguard of the new civilization. Both Doniphon and Liberty must fall before Stoddard if the worst of the west is to be tamed.
The cast is superior. James Stewart (Stoddard) and John Wayne (Doniphon) have unexpected chemistry on screen, and Lee Marvin (Valance) is easily one of the most unpleasant black-hats you could ever want to see in a western, vicious to the point of being psychotic. Supporting players Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmund O'Brien, and Woody Strode are equally fine. Although the script is occasionally a shade overwrought, it is laced with a very fine irony and sense of loss, and John Ford brings all the various pieces together without beating the viewer to death in the process.
GFT, Amazon Reviewer
- xryans_baby_girl_x
- Jun 17, 2008
- Permalink
I am a huge fan of John Ford, but somehow I had missed this one.
I was extremely disappointed. If I hadn't known that Ford had directed it, I never would have guessed it. Extremely set-bound, VALENCE has little of the sense of the Western outdoors that mark films like THE SEARCHERS, SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON and FORT APACHE. It's overlong. It's poorly cast, with both John Wayne and James Stewart--both in their 50s at the time--too old for their roles. (Stewart is particularly off-putting in this film, fitted with an obvious toupee and most of the time mired in a righteous indignation. He virtually quivers every time he speaks.) The female lead is that perpetual cipher, Vera Miles. (I've seen her in a number of films and still don't understand why she was so often cast in major productions.) John Wayne attacks his role with his usual zeal, but he's flabby and 55--too old to be convincing as Vera Miles' suitor. (This is the film in which he calls Stewart "Pilgrim".) Lee Marvin is the villainous title character and he's the most effective member of the cast. Strother Martin plays his chortling side-kick, who gets vicarious thrills out of Marvin's sadistic beating of townfolk. Edmund O'Brien chews the scenery with impossible speeches about freedom of the press. He is, in a word, ridiculous. Lee Van Cleef doesn't have one line of dialogue. Andy Devine is Andy Devine. VALENCE seems to be very low-budget. It reminded me in a large way of the Westerns that were so popular on television at the time--this could have been another episode of Wagon Train. Again, one of the major problems is the over-the-hill casting. I kept thinking how different the film would have been had it been cast with younger stars.
The "surprise" twist ending is unconvincing and doesn't really add anything. I know many people love this film. I'm at a loss.
I was extremely disappointed. If I hadn't known that Ford had directed it, I never would have guessed it. Extremely set-bound, VALENCE has little of the sense of the Western outdoors that mark films like THE SEARCHERS, SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON and FORT APACHE. It's overlong. It's poorly cast, with both John Wayne and James Stewart--both in their 50s at the time--too old for their roles. (Stewart is particularly off-putting in this film, fitted with an obvious toupee and most of the time mired in a righteous indignation. He virtually quivers every time he speaks.) The female lead is that perpetual cipher, Vera Miles. (I've seen her in a number of films and still don't understand why she was so often cast in major productions.) John Wayne attacks his role with his usual zeal, but he's flabby and 55--too old to be convincing as Vera Miles' suitor. (This is the film in which he calls Stewart "Pilgrim".) Lee Marvin is the villainous title character and he's the most effective member of the cast. Strother Martin plays his chortling side-kick, who gets vicarious thrills out of Marvin's sadistic beating of townfolk. Edmund O'Brien chews the scenery with impossible speeches about freedom of the press. He is, in a word, ridiculous. Lee Van Cleef doesn't have one line of dialogue. Andy Devine is Andy Devine. VALENCE seems to be very low-budget. It reminded me in a large way of the Westerns that were so popular on television at the time--this could have been another episode of Wagon Train. Again, one of the major problems is the over-the-hill casting. I kept thinking how different the film would have been had it been cast with younger stars.
The "surprise" twist ending is unconvincing and doesn't really add anything. I know many people love this film. I'm at a loss.