Un jour avec, un jour sans
Original title: Ji-geum-eun-mat-go-geu-ddae-neun-teul-li-da
- 2015
- Tous publics
- 2h 1m
IMDb RATING
7.1/10
5.3K
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A married film director falls for a young painter - twice.A married film director falls for a young painter - twice.A married film director falls for a young painter - twice.
- Awards
- 15 wins & 12 nominations total
Jeong Jae-yeong
- Ham Cheon-soo
- (as Jae-yeong Jeong)
Youn Yuh-jung
- Duk-soo Kang
- (as Yeo-jeong Yoon)
Choi Hwa-jeong
- Soo-young Bang
- (as Hwa-Jeong Choi)
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- Writer
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For the last few months, I'd read about Hong Sang-soo and his movies, and they sounded very appealing. There was a lot of hearsay about his body of work that drew me to him: His movies have a slice-of-life feel to them, his shooting style is minimalist, his annual output is two or three movies a year, and his movies are on some level closely tied to his life experiences. I have a huge affinity for these qualities at the present, so I knew sooner or later I had to watch his movies.
Watching this has instantly made me a fan. There is much to love about it: Chance encounters, cigarette smoking, drunken hangouts; cringey but moving outpourings of feelings; mutual and one-sided instances of platonic and romantic connectivity; naturalistic acting, long takes, zooms; and to top it all off, a story that gets told twice with glaring and subtle differences in the second telling. Really great stuff. It's everything I want in a movie.
But what I really appreciate is the vulnerability and openness this movie presents. It presents being honest as important and it shows how in a gentle way.
The bar scene in the second half was just wonderful.
Watching this has instantly made me a fan. There is much to love about it: Chance encounters, cigarette smoking, drunken hangouts; cringey but moving outpourings of feelings; mutual and one-sided instances of platonic and romantic connectivity; naturalistic acting, long takes, zooms; and to top it all off, a story that gets told twice with glaring and subtle differences in the second telling. Really great stuff. It's everything I want in a movie.
But what I really appreciate is the vulnerability and openness this movie presents. It presents being honest as important and it shows how in a gentle way.
The bar scene in the second half was just wonderful.
Contrary to the many Korean films I have seen lately, in which the originality, the creativity, the excellence of the stories and the great representations generally prevail, in this film all these aspects fell short of my expectations. I expected a lot more, not least because the little synopsis I read about the film was quite promising. In recent times, this was the first Korean film that deceived me. I did not feel special empathy for any character and found the performances at a level below what is normal for Korean actors and actresses.
Right Now, Wrong Then is a film of two distinct halves. In 2 days of the life of a filmmaker, Ham Cheon-soo, in town a day early for a screening of his latest work at a local film festival. He meets a younger woman, Yoon Hee-Jeong, and immediately falls for her. She's an artist, and he views and comments on her work, then they go out to dinner where they drunkenly bear their souls. It results in an invitation to a friend's small party where a revelation embarrasses Ham to the point where they part ways on a sour note. He attends his film to a small crowd, conducts a hungover Q&A, and retires, walking away from the town for good. Roll title card "Right Now" rather than "Right Then." The film literally repeats from the beginning, erasing the first half. Like Groundhog Day but only a once-over, we get every scene again but from a slightly different wishful approach.
This second time the couple are honest, unlike the first time where Ham tries too hard to impress and Yoon retreats. Again, they fall in love, but given Ham admits to already being married, their feelings are mutual and emotional without being sexual. He may embarrass himself once more at the aforementioned dinner, but it does not result in a cruel parting, instead drawing them closer. It's a quaint experiment given the relaxed tone. The first half on its own is not a movie, and neither is the second. They're co-dependent to give the narrative meaning, but it's far from cinematic in tone. It's a filmmaker's revisionism of what could have been a perfect evening had the characters acted suitably. It's honest, rather than romantic – though the chemistry still bubbles in the air – and it's utterly bittersweet, in a similar vein to Before Sunrise, but strictly not Before Sunset.
It's my first film from Korean director Hong Sang-soo and ostensibly from his fans and critics, Right Now Wrong Then is firmly his style – including the Woody Allen-esque romance between an older creative similar to the director himself, and a pretty younger woman. The atmosphere is very modest with simple photography, though Sang-soo does punctuate some scenes with careful zooms. It's very easy-going filmmaking, and its concept makes the second half easier to watch because you know exactly where it's heading as it retraces steps while you have a sharp eye out for the subtle changes that make all the differences, but it doesn't beg you to keep an eye on every detail. Those differences aren't grandstanding though the narrative is clearly motivated by them. Sometimes a scene will repeat its approach entirely despite the previous scene being radically revised. It's trying to be very nuanced rather than having a 'sliding doors/butterfly effect' where causality makes the universe shift places.
Instead, the outcome isn't much different but the overall feeling is utterly converted. It's all down to the performances of its two leads, Jeong Jae-Yeong and Kim Min-Hee, to create that tone with their chemistry, who were most likely shooting both halves back to back, location by location. In both halves, Ham is still a jerk with a kind of irritating laugh, but all the characters are deeply human even if Sang-soo doesn't peel back their layers every time. There's a big heart buried in its very slight execution. However, Right Now Wrong Then is not necessarily about how honesty is a better policy – though Ham's harsh analysis of Hee-Jeong's art in the second half remains a sting that takes a long time to settle – but it's about how it's possible to love again. In this case, love doesn't have to be a complete turbulous affair, but it can still be a fulfilling and life-affirming night if approached accordingly.
8/10
This second time the couple are honest, unlike the first time where Ham tries too hard to impress and Yoon retreats. Again, they fall in love, but given Ham admits to already being married, their feelings are mutual and emotional without being sexual. He may embarrass himself once more at the aforementioned dinner, but it does not result in a cruel parting, instead drawing them closer. It's a quaint experiment given the relaxed tone. The first half on its own is not a movie, and neither is the second. They're co-dependent to give the narrative meaning, but it's far from cinematic in tone. It's a filmmaker's revisionism of what could have been a perfect evening had the characters acted suitably. It's honest, rather than romantic – though the chemistry still bubbles in the air – and it's utterly bittersweet, in a similar vein to Before Sunrise, but strictly not Before Sunset.
It's my first film from Korean director Hong Sang-soo and ostensibly from his fans and critics, Right Now Wrong Then is firmly his style – including the Woody Allen-esque romance between an older creative similar to the director himself, and a pretty younger woman. The atmosphere is very modest with simple photography, though Sang-soo does punctuate some scenes with careful zooms. It's very easy-going filmmaking, and its concept makes the second half easier to watch because you know exactly where it's heading as it retraces steps while you have a sharp eye out for the subtle changes that make all the differences, but it doesn't beg you to keep an eye on every detail. Those differences aren't grandstanding though the narrative is clearly motivated by them. Sometimes a scene will repeat its approach entirely despite the previous scene being radically revised. It's trying to be very nuanced rather than having a 'sliding doors/butterfly effect' where causality makes the universe shift places.
Instead, the outcome isn't much different but the overall feeling is utterly converted. It's all down to the performances of its two leads, Jeong Jae-Yeong and Kim Min-Hee, to create that tone with their chemistry, who were most likely shooting both halves back to back, location by location. In both halves, Ham is still a jerk with a kind of irritating laugh, but all the characters are deeply human even if Sang-soo doesn't peel back their layers every time. There's a big heart buried in its very slight execution. However, Right Now Wrong Then is not necessarily about how honesty is a better policy – though Ham's harsh analysis of Hee-Jeong's art in the second half remains a sting that takes a long time to settle – but it's about how it's possible to love again. In this case, love doesn't have to be a complete turbulous affair, but it can still be a fulfilling and life-affirming night if approached accordingly.
8/10
I've been a fan of Sang-soo for some years yet his frustrating insistence to continually repeat himself is now annoying me.
Sure you can guarantee failed romance and time wasted drunk in korean bars in Sang-soo films and I'm fine with that in theory.
The problem I have is that everything else once you've seen a few just seems so repetitive as well...
Ie the kinds of creative characters he chooses to portray, the form of the films, the dynamics between characters, the voice over narration, I could go on and on.
In totality, they are just far far too repetitive for me. I was absolutely fine with all this until this film. For me this film was like the product of a once great now semi-senile 90 year old director just repeating himself after a golden age of great films decades before.
He really is starting to make the decrepit Woody Allen look original!
I'll probably watch the next Sang-soo film that comes out as well but with a lot more caution not expecting much.
Sure you can guarantee failed romance and time wasted drunk in korean bars in Sang-soo films and I'm fine with that in theory.
The problem I have is that everything else once you've seen a few just seems so repetitive as well...
Ie the kinds of creative characters he chooses to portray, the form of the films, the dynamics between characters, the voice over narration, I could go on and on.
In totality, they are just far far too repetitive for me. I was absolutely fine with all this until this film. For me this film was like the product of a once great now semi-senile 90 year old director just repeating himself after a golden age of great films decades before.
He really is starting to make the decrepit Woody Allen look original!
I'll probably watch the next Sang-soo film that comes out as well but with a lot more caution not expecting much.
Going into this movie knowing nothing but the summary I was filled with high hopes, wondering what route the movie was going to take, or how it would tackle the much used topic of "love" and "loneliness". Such hope, unfortunately, soon fell short and turned into disappointment.
"Right Now, Wrong Then" poses a simple yet intriguing plot. A man meets a women out of chance, and they start talking. Having such a basic and linear story, the director goes to great lengths to subvert the narrative. The first half, constituting what can probably be described as a "realist" perspective on chance encounters between strangers, end up with disillusionment and leaves the audience with a feeling of lingering loneliness all around. The main characters start alone, and they end alone. The second half is akin to a "hopeful" or "illusioning" twist in the story. All the events are the same, except for how the main characters act, with their qualities being more transparent, honest, and virtuous. In the same way that the movie finishes "lost" in the snowfall, so do we as spectators end wondering which of the halves corresponded to the "truth".
In all these respects the movie poses an interesting twist to traditional love stories. However, upon finishing, I was left feeling as though the potential was lost. Albeit naturally awkward, some of the interactions between the main characters feel out of place and purposefully dragged to fill up time. A stark example of this is how in both halves of the movie, the director almost forces Yoon Hee-jeong to go for a coffee. Sure, it could be argue his attitude is explained by his yearning for companionship, however, in my opinion, it showed him as essentially instrumentalizing others for his own ends, making it difficult to relate.
All in all, Hong Sang-soo delivers an entertaining and promising movie, albeit without reaching its full potential.
"Right Now, Wrong Then" poses a simple yet intriguing plot. A man meets a women out of chance, and they start talking. Having such a basic and linear story, the director goes to great lengths to subvert the narrative. The first half, constituting what can probably be described as a "realist" perspective on chance encounters between strangers, end up with disillusionment and leaves the audience with a feeling of lingering loneliness all around. The main characters start alone, and they end alone. The second half is akin to a "hopeful" or "illusioning" twist in the story. All the events are the same, except for how the main characters act, with their qualities being more transparent, honest, and virtuous. In the same way that the movie finishes "lost" in the snowfall, so do we as spectators end wondering which of the halves corresponded to the "truth".
In all these respects the movie poses an interesting twist to traditional love stories. However, upon finishing, I was left feeling as though the potential was lost. Albeit naturally awkward, some of the interactions between the main characters feel out of place and purposefully dragged to fill up time. A stark example of this is how in both halves of the movie, the director almost forces Yoon Hee-jeong to go for a coffee. Sure, it could be argue his attitude is explained by his yearning for companionship, however, in my opinion, it showed him as essentially instrumentalizing others for his own ends, making it difficult to relate.
All in all, Hong Sang-soo delivers an entertaining and promising movie, albeit without reaching its full potential.
Did you know
- TriviaIn every scene in which the characters are drunk the actors are actually drunk as well.
- Quotes
Ham Cheon-soo: Try to discover something every second of every day, from everything around you.
- Crazy creditsTitle card of the film is seen twice. In the first place, it reads as 'Right Then, Wrong Now'; and in the second (an hour into the film) as 'Right Now, Wrong Then'.
- ConnectionsFeatures Hill of Freedom (2014)
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Box office
- Gross US & Canada
- $24,470
- Opening weekend US & Canada
- $5,291
- Jun 26, 2016
- Gross worldwide
- $680,728
- Runtime2 hours 1 minute
- Color
- Aspect ratio
- 1.85 : 1
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