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Primordial

  • 2015
  • TV-MA
  • 2h 2m
IMDb RATING
4.0/10
146
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Primordial (2015)
Dark ComedyComedyCrimeDramaHorrorThriller

Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.

  • Director
    • Eric Widing
  • Writer
    • Eric Widing
  • Stars
    • Marylee Osborne
    • Erin R. Ryan
    • Christopher Rowley
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  • IMDb RATING
    4.0/10
    146
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Eric Widing
    • Writer
      • Eric Widing
    • Stars
      • Marylee Osborne
      • Erin R. Ryan
      • Christopher Rowley
    • 11User reviews
    • 4Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 2 nominations total

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    Marylee Osborne
    • Valerie Graves
    Erin R. Ryan
    • Tina
    Christopher Rowley
    • Andy Cheney
    Adam Scott Clevenger
    • Tayshawn
    • (as Adam Clevenger)
    Josh Miller
    • Smiddy
    Titus Young Wolverton
    Titus Young Wolverton
    • Tony
    Rachel Carter
    • Jeanette
    Henrique Couto
    Henrique Couto
    • Arms Dealer
    David Denoyer
    • Hammer Smashed Victim
    Bradley Diehl
    • Stanley
    Joni Durian
    • Tiffany
    Allison Egan
    • Cassidy
    Dale Grow
    • Party Creep
    Maggie Grow
    • Colleen
    John Bradley Hambrick
    • Strangled Man in Dream
    Joe Kidd
    Joe Kidd
    • Meth Addict
    Haley Madison
    • Female Massacre Victim
    Michael William Ralston
    • Murdered Gunman
    • Director
      • Eric Widing
    • Writer
      • Eric Widing
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    9linniallenla

    Widing's Best Work!

    Like a violent descent down a spiral staircase straight to hell, with every scene you follow a young fledgling criminal as she sinks further into depressive state and slowly gives over to the darkest urges of her sadistic mind. Ending up on the wrong side of the criminals, she now finds herself hunted and her whole world crumbling around her. Eric Widing delivers an absolute punch-to-the-gut with his dramatic and grim tale of a person on the edge of sanity who may be slipping into the abyss. These actresses put on an astonishing performance that is heavy, dramatic and extremely graphic, compared to what you normally see from most of them. Experience a dark ride while watching this film, and do be careful not to let yourself give over to those sinister urges that might be hiding inside of you.
    8dmmorton78

    Stock this one in your Watchlist

    Movie is a detonation of a human bomb with a series of dark woods shots and metal blasting. Some points get truly satanic and I feel at home in a cult of murderous activity, guns flashing like lightning and hell erupting up from the roots of some ancient tree. Great performances by Marylee, Erin, Eric, and the crazy lunatic "hey baby" guy at the party.

    Primordial has a postmodern feel to it where scenes jump around, music blares, dark humor, unorthodox filming, and pastiche. There is also fragmentation and chaos abounding.

    The relationship of Valerie and Tina was the most alluring. The one- sided attraction, the resistance, the play for power takes the audience into very uncomfortable places. It reminds me of the quote, I forget by whom, of the goal of a writer is to chase their protagonist up a tree and throw rocks at them.
    10thedamakrina

    An Extreme Film From Extremely Talented People

    Primordial is a clear example of the evolution of promising director Eric Widing. By evolution I do not mean that drastic change to appeal to another "type" of audience that sadly most directors, artists, even musicians do in time, but through consistent work and the same creative process he used in Hellhounds. Widing's greatest achievement in this film comes from exploring the female psychopath mind, rather than offering us yet another male psycho perspective like thousands that are already out there. The twisted main character's personality is shown in a very crude way, without taking into consideration those female "characteristics" that women are mostly known for. Strong female characters are good for women! Valerie is the finest example of how a potentially smart woman wastes her life while not realizing her true strength.

    The intense relationship between Valerie and her friend Tina deserves a special mention just for the strong interaction they developed, which could be seen as the key path to Valerie's emotions. You know what they say, "it is the thing we love most that destroys us," in unexpected ways. I admit that I also laughed plenty of times as much as I was shocked by their performances, which is very positive in my opinion.

    I also really enjoyed Valerie's revenge. The preparation, the ritual, and the dark determination are very memorable. To kill could be a catharsis for those who deserve it. The last scene is very well made; it gave me goosebumps and kept me more engaged in the film and the character than I already was. I could also highlight Valerie's friendship with the men she later realized were dangerous bastards, which is a unique portrayal of the destructive friendships we are surrounded by in our lives. And finally, that sadomasochistic lesbian scene, I must confess, really pleased my personal sexual aesthetic taste.

    On the technical side, the editing, lighting and music create an effective atmosphere. Especially the music since I am myself an extreme metal lover. What else could mix better than prolonged sadistic violence and extreme music?

    In spite of these statements, I assume that people who do not like horror or sadistic gore will not find beauty in the grotesque nature of this film. I have read some criticism on the film's disturbing content, but hey, Widing is not exactly making a comedy. Though, for those who enjoy the genre I would give you my highest recommendation with confidence. Here in Latin America, I have already shown this film to two people who also loved it.

    I am definitely looking forward to seeing more of his works in the future. Widing has my unqualified professional endorsement and my deep respect.
    10vsin-998-218212

    Personally, I loved this film and I'll attempt to explain why.

    When I first watched this, it was a rental from Amazon. All I could think at that moment when it was over was just amazed. Well, another word came to mind actually but I don't know if this website will allow me to say d**n (harmless word but I think it's one of the words that got Amazon to reject my first review).

    I recently got reminded that when a movie looks like it would be awesome to go see in a theater, usually it's not, these days that is (at least for my interests). That movie I am thinking of is that newest Star Wars film. Nearly fell asleep a few times through that one but this film, it kept me excited and engaged the whole way through. I am so sick of spending so much money at a theater over these past 10 or so years just to feel I wasted part of my life and money.

    Now, this time, I stayed home and rented this movie (for a fraction of the cost of what a movie ticket would be) and find it was well worth the time in my life that I gave up to sit and experience this. I say experience because you don't just see a movie, you get an experience. That's a rare thing to get in films today. Some may like that experience and others, well, it may be just too much to handle (and some may not get it). Me, I loved it.

    It's a brutal film but that by itself wouldn't be why I say all this. Murder-Set-Pieces from Nick Palumbo (uncut version) was brutal, extremely so but this, which is not quite as brutal (close enough though), was more intense and more extreme in many ways, IMO. There is much that combines with the brutality shown that just makes this so extreme and one heck of an of an experience. Now of course this doesn't have the big budget and such like many of those big films at the box office but it is still one heck of a film that isn't hurt by that, IMO. Of course there's always this or that which could have been done in any film and more money can help some of those things but it can also make the people lazy and less creative and more dependent on flashy content than substance. This film has heart (even if darkened), soul (even if it's a damned one) and substance with a good dose of creativity.

    The characters in the story are real. It's not like the crap (prefer to say s**T, but don't want this review rejected) you get in many movies today for characters and the acting feels genuine, these actors didn't seem like they were acting and you feel as much as you see; feel the intensity as much as you see it.

    Much reminded me of people I know/have known and some parts make me think about my own self. The movie does not feel like some made up story with half butted acting (wanted to say half as**d but don't want my review rejected). It's raw & brutal and it dives head first into the depravity of the human psyche of some individuals, which many humans like to pretend does not exist in or around their little world or maybe, even within their own mind.

    The experience was like listening to the music of Thy Light (which blew me away to be reminded that music is in it; I had forgotten), you feel what's going on as you go through the experience just as you do with Thy Light's music. BTW, if you are a fan of Thy Light, you must see this film. You hear some in the first half but it's thick with the music in the second half. I wondered in some scenes, was the scene being set to parts of the music or was the music parts being set to the scene. I just loved that aspect of the film. A fan of Thy Light will at the very least appreciate this aspect of the movie.

    The women and men in this movie have done an awesome job of creating this for us. Kudos to Eric Widing for making a film like this and going the direction he did with it and not being afraid to give you a dose of reality, that luckily for many, will never get to experience in their own life. You can tell that Eric and the actors and whomever helped them get this made did more than just brainstorm some good ideas to give you a cool movie, they had of went to some intense places within themselves to give you an experience that you will either love or hate. I don't see much middle ground for this movie. You'll get it or you won't, you'll love it or you'll hate it. Even those whom get it, it may be a bit much for them. If that sounds like your cup of tea, check it out. I'm glad I did.
    10noblesavageami

    Dark Art-House delivery...

    Eric is one of my favorite ' dark art chaos' directors. His work reminds me of Oliver Stone's 'Natural Born Killers'..there are messages inside of messages in an art house manner. It is like being on an evil desperate trip that confounds the mind. Made to make you look beneath the surface of our madness.

    The chaos makes me want to open the directors head and fumble about to see what makes him tick. The casting is done well, and each character brings their own depth into the art itself. We've got to remember, art is subjective and delivers to each individual accordingly.

    I want to see more work from Eric Widing!

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    • Trivia
      The "fish hook scene" was inspired by a bizarre, but most likely fictitious, story that one of Eric Widing's high school friends told about an ex girlfriend's strange sexual preferences.
    • Quotes

      Party Creep: Hey baby.

    • Alternate versions
      A 79 minute producer's cut titled "Violent Instinct" was released in July 2016 for online streaming. The most drastic change between this version and the full length version is the intro, which opens with the black and white scene with the ghost in the attic and treats it as a dream, as opposed to the original version in which it was an ambiguous final scene. This version also cuts a lot of the first act, removing a few whole character's such as the landlady Nichole, the weird neighbor, the Boddicker family and a majority of the early scenes with Colleen. This version also shortens or removes many of the humorous scenes and has completely removed any mention or implications of the "fish hook" sex act.
    • Connections
      Edited from Haunted House on Sorority Row (2014)
    • Soundtracks
      Prevalent Winds
      Written and Performed by Primalfrost

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    • Release date
      • November 20, 2015 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Official site
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    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Violent Instinct
    • Filming locations
      • Dayton, Ohio, USA(Valerie's House)
    • Production company
      • Eric Widing Films
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    • Budget
      • $1,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      2 hours 2 minutes
    • Color
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    • Sound mix
      • Stereo
    • Aspect ratio
      • 16:9 HD

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