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Um mergulho nas teorias alternativas em torno dos assassinatos de Manson revela conexões inesperadas com agências governamentais, experimentos de controle mental e figuras-chave da época, de... Ler tudoUm mergulho nas teorias alternativas em torno dos assassinatos de Manson revela conexões inesperadas com agências governamentais, experimentos de controle mental e figuras-chave da época, desafiando a narrativa aceita.Um mergulho nas teorias alternativas em torno dos assassinatos de Manson revela conexões inesperadas com agências governamentais, experimentos de controle mental e figuras-chave da época, desafiando a narrativa aceita.
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- Roteiristas
- Artistas
Charles Manson
- Self - Manson Family Leader
- (cenas de arquivo)
Bobby Beausoleil
- Self - Convicted Murderer
- (cenas de arquivo)
- (narração)
Sharon Tate
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Voytek Frykowski
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Jay Sebring
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Abigail Folger
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Steve Parent
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Leno LaBianca
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Rosemary LaBianca
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Gary Hinman
- Self - Manson Family Murder Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
Bernard Crowe
- Self - Manson Shooting Victim
- (cenas de arquivo)
- (as Bernard 'Lotsapoppa' Crowe)
Ronnie Howard
- Self - Susan Atkins' Cellmate
- (cenas de arquivo)
Virginia Graham
- Self - Susan Atkins' Cellmate
- (cenas de arquivo)
Terry Melcher
- Self - Music Producer
- (cenas de arquivo)
- (narração)
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- Roteiristas
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Reviewers say 'Chaos: The Manson Murders' has mixed reception. Praises include engaging presentation, intriguing interviews, and unique insights into Manson's psyche and possible government involvement. Criticisms highlight rushed pacing, lack of depth, and failure to fully explore the book's theories. Some find the documentary disjointed, confusing, and overly reliant on conspiracy theories. Others appreciate its concise format and the director's style, despite noting it could benefit from more detailed exploration.
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The book by Tom O'Neill was excellent and when I heard about this coming to Netflix, I was excited. But making it into an hour and a half made it very rushed. Pretty disappointed they didn't make it into at least a 4-part series.
A 4-part series would have at least allowed for the time to explore so much more of the backstory and details that were in the book. I guess maybe it's possible that they will make Chaos a series of documentaries about the different parts of the book, but if not, this was a real let down for me.
I highly recommend the book by Tom O'Neill if this documentary at least piqued your interest.
A 4-part series would have at least allowed for the time to explore so much more of the backstory and details that were in the book. I guess maybe it's possible that they will make Chaos a series of documentaries about the different parts of the book, but if not, this was a real let down for me.
I highly recommend the book by Tom O'Neill if this documentary at least piqued your interest.
Was it just me? Or did this 90 minute production feel as though it was hacked together and rushed out. I went on and on about Chaos, begging people to read it, it absolutely had me captivated, what a binge read, I don't think it translated well here.
Massively overproduced, it jumps from one theory to the next, not explaining anything in that process, if moves from cutaway to split screen interviews in the most erratic fashion.
Honestly just stick to the book instead, it truly is the most fascinating read, contrast that to this chaotic film, night and day.
Good luck if you can stick with it, I found myself skipping back to try and see what point they were tying to make.
There's clearly some interesting footage, but it's lost in a myriad of cutaways and shots.
Netflix, this sucked.
4/10.
Massively overproduced, it jumps from one theory to the next, not explaining anything in that process, if moves from cutaway to split screen interviews in the most erratic fashion.
Honestly just stick to the book instead, it truly is the most fascinating read, contrast that to this chaotic film, night and day.
Good luck if you can stick with it, I found myself skipping back to try and see what point they were tying to make.
There's clearly some interesting footage, but it's lost in a myriad of cutaways and shots.
Netflix, this sucked.
4/10.
While it is understandable why Charles Manson was regarded back then as having a supernatural charm and ability to influence his followers to commit unspeakable acts, the growth of knowledge into psychology, especially childhood trauma and personality disorders, in the past 50 years will easily dispel any conspiracy theory that arose in the 1970s following the murders. The roll-call of cultish personalities that followed Manson, such as Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite and David Koresh, is proof that there is nothing magical about their ability to indoctrinate those who are susceptible to their influence; they are all basically following the same set of rules used by the greatest con-artists.
At the start of the documentary, Manson is shown proclaiming that he is not a nice man, but his would-be followers insisted that he is; they needed to view him as "nice" and thereby safe, perhaps helped by his diminutive stature, so he admitted to "reflecting nice back to them". People like Manson wield enormous influence over some simply because their superpower is sniffing out the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of others, and using that to their advantage. This superpower is often the result of severe childhood trauma and/or neglect, where the child does not have any healthy adult role models to learn empathy from, and views other people as merely tools to survive and get their needs met.
A cursory search into Manson's childhood revealed an alcoholic mother who was ill-equipped to raise him, a biological father that he never knew, and a step-father who flagged the mother for "gross neglect of duty". It is therefore no surprise that Manson's life was characterised by anti-social and criminal behaviour. In an ironic twist, the people most susceptible to those like Manson, such as Manson's followers, are usually themselves lost children seeking the guidance and love they never received from their parents. This shared experience of childhood trauma, and subsequent trauma bonding, is why Manson had such a hold over those he sent out to do his bidding. Manson himself was a scared child faking bravado to face the big bad world; that he ran away after injuring Hinman, leaving Beausoleil to deal with it, and how he delegated the killings to his followers proved what a coward he truly was.
As Beausoleil put it, Manson was not a mastermind. Far from it, he was instead a broken child in a man's body, hateful at the world for thwarting his desires, and the murders were his misguided way of taking revenge and exerting his will. That the documentary failed to explore any of his psychology and childhood, as well as that of his followers, makes it incomplete because the conspiracy theories are ultimately not as compelling as the truth behind Manson's deranged machinations. The only thing I got out of it was that Manson was a competent musician and songwriter. Perhaps in a parallel universe, where he had better parents and childhood, he might have become a successful musician, adored by many, instead of this infamous trainwreck of a human being.
At the start of the documentary, Manson is shown proclaiming that he is not a nice man, but his would-be followers insisted that he is; they needed to view him as "nice" and thereby safe, perhaps helped by his diminutive stature, so he admitted to "reflecting nice back to them". People like Manson wield enormous influence over some simply because their superpower is sniffing out the weaknesses and vulnerabilities of others, and using that to their advantage. This superpower is often the result of severe childhood trauma and/or neglect, where the child does not have any healthy adult role models to learn empathy from, and views other people as merely tools to survive and get their needs met.
A cursory search into Manson's childhood revealed an alcoholic mother who was ill-equipped to raise him, a biological father that he never knew, and a step-father who flagged the mother for "gross neglect of duty". It is therefore no surprise that Manson's life was characterised by anti-social and criminal behaviour. In an ironic twist, the people most susceptible to those like Manson, such as Manson's followers, are usually themselves lost children seeking the guidance and love they never received from their parents. This shared experience of childhood trauma, and subsequent trauma bonding, is why Manson had such a hold over those he sent out to do his bidding. Manson himself was a scared child faking bravado to face the big bad world; that he ran away after injuring Hinman, leaving Beausoleil to deal with it, and how he delegated the killings to his followers proved what a coward he truly was.
As Beausoleil put it, Manson was not a mastermind. Far from it, he was instead a broken child in a man's body, hateful at the world for thwarting his desires, and the murders were his misguided way of taking revenge and exerting his will. That the documentary failed to explore any of his psychology and childhood, as well as that of his followers, makes it incomplete because the conspiracy theories are ultimately not as compelling as the truth behind Manson's deranged machinations. The only thing I got out of it was that Manson was a competent musician and songwriter. Perhaps in a parallel universe, where he had better parents and childhood, he might have become a successful musician, adored by many, instead of this infamous trainwreck of a human being.
This ninety (90) minute documentary is based upon Tom O'Neil's controversial book on the Manson Family. His book is a counter to the best selling Bugliosi book, Helter Skelter. The basic premise of the book and documentary is that Manson was not simply a crazy cult leader. He was a product of CIA MK Ultra LSD mild control experimentation by the US Government. The movie uses great documentary and interview clips to tell the story. It also uses Manson's original music as part of the soundtrack. The biggest issue with the documentary is that if you don't have some level of understanding of the facts and characters the film may be hard to follow. I recommend it anyway, and the book.
A deep dive? Hardly, more like a disjointed mess with quick cuts of old documents and photos with little or no explanation.
There is no narrative here, no explanation of the theories on which the film is allegedly based, namely the book by Tom O'Neill. I've read the book, which is quite fascinating, but if you haven't, there is just no way to follow the random bits and pieces thrown out by this documentary.
Case in point, O'Neill is briefly interviewed, but without any explanation of who he is. O'Neill briefly discusses some of the shadowy players associated with the Manson saga like Jolly West and Roger Smith, but little information is given about why they were relevant and what they did or might have done. Music industry people like Brian Wilson, Terry Melcher and Gregg Jakobsen are briefly mentioned, but with little background on their relationship to each other or Manson.
The film is a complete waste of your time. If you are truly interested, read O'Neill's book and skip this incoherent trainwreck.
There is no narrative here, no explanation of the theories on which the film is allegedly based, namely the book by Tom O'Neill. I've read the book, which is quite fascinating, but if you haven't, there is just no way to follow the random bits and pieces thrown out by this documentary.
Case in point, O'Neill is briefly interviewed, but without any explanation of who he is. O'Neill briefly discusses some of the shadowy players associated with the Manson saga like Jolly West and Roger Smith, but little information is given about why they were relevant and what they did or might have done. Music industry people like Brian Wilson, Terry Melcher and Gregg Jakobsen are briefly mentioned, but with little background on their relationship to each other or Manson.
The film is a complete waste of your time. If you are truly interested, read O'Neill's book and skip this incoherent trainwreck.
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Tom O'Neill: Frankly, I still don't know what happened. But I know that what we were told isn't what happened.
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