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After having watched the movie Zodiac many times I watched this hoping I would get a lot more evidence one way or another. This documentary certainly does provide a fair amount of evidence suggesting that it was in fact Arthur Leigh Allen. Based on what it shows and what I know previously if I had to bet it would be that it was him. However , not to say Graysmith is wrong , but the entire theories presented do always seem to come through him. I had some suspicion while watching that this was the case in this as well.

What I've realized is that there was simply nothing to really stick to Allen outside of circumstantial evidence . For crimes of this scope the threshold level for evidence is quite high.

In the end the accounts of the children grown up I found very interesting and certainly made me believe it was Allen even more. However, after reflection I still would need to see DNA that was not found. There certainly was huge motivation to get this guy, but their unwillingness to try him for all the crimes shows that the attorneys couldn't build a case to meet the thresholds.

Overall on a private level, I do believe it was him. From a legal perspective , I would need something larger in terms of evidence, which clearly is why it is still considered a cold case.

For all the Zodiac victims sakes I do hope they find something extremely conclusive. It's horrid Zodiac was able to get away with this level of evil.

A family welcome in big and burly teacher, Arthur Leigh Allen into their world, he seems perfect, caring and considerate, but could he potentially be The Zodiac killer, a masked figure, who's claimed several victims, and delights in tormenting The Authorities.

A well known story, a fairly infamous serial killer, one that of course inspired an excellent movie adaptation.

It's revealing and shocking in equal measure, with some fascinating first hand interviews, with people who knew Allen well.

It's well paced and well produced, it will keep you on your toes, it does tail off a little bit in the third episode, but those behind it can't be blamed, as there's no resolution, only theories.

It's a story that's always intrigued me, and I've never had any doubts as to Allen's guilt, this three last series did nothing to change my mind, I still believe he's guilty, I'm just stunned they weren't able to convict him.

8/10.

I've always been intrigued by the statements from these brothers, and it amazed me that no one had done anything about it... until now! Without a doubt, Arthur Leigh Allen was, is, and will be the number one suspect-miles ahead of anyone else, light-years, even. There's a huge amount of circumstantial evidence, way beyond the ordinary, and when you add in the experiences of these brothers, I've got no doubt he was the killer. Let's not forget that a survivor from the Lake Berryessa side and Michael Mageau identified him as their attacker, among a ton of other things. A narcissist and an egomaniac with two faces. Hopefully, his guilt can finally be confirmed, because there's no one else who even comes close to him.

"Zodiac Killer" is the first serial killer that intrigued me. I was maybe 8 years old when I first saw a documentary about him. Since then, I have been returning to the topic from time to time, listening to podcasts on the subject and generally being interested in new facts in the investigation. I've watched a lot of documentaries on the subject, listened to podcasts, and even read books, so I had to see this documentary as well. Was it possible to create a complete film about this monster in human skin this time?

No. But it doesn't matter at all, because this film is very close to being a perfect summary of a long-term investigation for those who have been following the case for a long time, and at the same time to be a shortcut for those who only know about Zodiac from David Fincher's film.

So why did the film get a 7/10 from me and not a 9/10, if it is "almost perfect"? Because in my opinion it is too fictionalized. There are too many unnecessary stories, too many digressions and asking questions, and not enough accurate presentation of the facts about Zodiac.

Nevertheless, it is worth watching this film to judge for yourself whether the way it is presented suits your taste. For me, it was slightly too long for the amount of information it gives. It could easily have had two episodes instead of three, if only those genre scenes, which did not add much to the film, were abandoned.

Most of us have seen the Fincher movie covering the facts ( but having watched this series , the aforementioned facts are brought into question ) , but if you haven't , I'd recommend that you do , to give a reasonable perspective . A serial killer - one of several at the time - terrorised the California area throughout the sixties and seventies . Part of his modus operandi was taunting both the Press and the Police departments of the affected crime scenes . The movie was released in 2007 and they couldn't portray several details as the prime suspect was at that point unproven . This series unravels why and it doesn't show the detectives in the original investigation in a great light . Add to that , the incredible involvement of a whole family , who could be deemed complicit , if not naive in the extreme .

This Is the Zodiac Speaking: A nasty guy alright, at times he wanted to encourage people to think he was Zodiac, even wrote letters to people suggesting that he had carried out the murders. But just before he died he denied it, wrote a letter which was discovered when he was found dead. Certainly some circumstantial evidence, the testimony of those families he interacted with and abused is interesting. Their memories stretching back 50 years might not be so reliable though as to his actions in proximity to attack sites. Maybe he was just a sad petty predator who had dreams of being an infamous serial killer. Still the series is worth watching even I think it could have been done in 2 rather than 3 episodes. Directed by Phil Lott and Ari Mark. On Netflix. 7/10.

The most compelling circumstantial evidence provided to the public. Watch this documentary to get an insight into the family exposed and linked to a strong suspect for the Zodiac serial killings.

Arguably this is the most renowned serial murder case in the US that has gone unsolved for decades. The family associated with Arthur Leigh Allen provide their insight to growing up with a man who they trusted and accepted into their family. As the decades pass and they reflect on their dealings with the suspect, they begin to piece together that Arthur Leigh Allen, the person they welcomed into their family, could very well be the notorious Zodiac killer that has evaded conviction for decades.

This documentary should provide more focus for detectives to come to a final conclusion on the Zodiac killer.

The Zodiac Killer must be one of the most compelling cases in the history of forensics.

A monstrous being, ahead of its time.

When you read the stories you can't help but feel sorry for the victims, their families and the police. No one was prepared for a being of this magnitude.

This miniseries gives us a very interesting point of view.

Arthur Leigh Allen was always the number 1 suspect, all the circumstantial evidence, the fact that he had been in the area of several murders on the same days that they occurred and even his identification by the survivors.

However, he could never be locked up and died prematurely from his kidney disease.

In the Seawater stories there is so much pain, so much darkness lived, so many traces followed that it is impossible not to follow this conjecture. ALA was the Zodiac Killer, without a doubt. Egomaniac, narcissist, abuser, with extremely useful skills and talents... all the combo to do what he surely did.

It's a shame that David has passed away and will not be able to see the end of this story. I am left frozen by the bond with his mother and how she was/could have been an accomplice to this for so many years. A destroyed family, a sister who would clearly be one of the next victims and who was saved by a miracle.

Finally, the hope that the knife he gave to Connie's son will finally reveal that truth that has been awaited for more than 50 years...

I was looking forward to this series but it turns out to be another Robert Graysmith propaganda film. The entire series is based on the interviews of the Seawater family, who were family friends of one of the Zodiac suspects, Arthur Leigh Allen.

We are expected to believe them even though they never brought forth this story to the authorities. There is no way to confirm anything they're saying. Their testimony would be useless in a court of law.

What the series leaves out is ANY speculation the Zodiac could be anyone other than Arthur Leigh Allen. What they also leave out is the considerable amount of physical evidence that Allen was NOT the Zodiac.

Allen gave two handwriting samples with both hands, since he was ambidextrous. They were studied by a number of handwriting experts. Both samples came up NOT a match. The ballistic tests of all of Allen's guns came back negative to the bullets found in the murders. The bloody fingerprints that were on the taxicab of Paul Stine were NOT a match. The partial palm print that was lifted off one of the confirmed Zodiac letters was NOT a match. Finally, the partial DNA sample off one the stamps on one of the confirmed Zodiac letters ruled out Arthur Leigh Allen. In short. While there may be a lot of circumstantial evidence pointing to Allen as the Zodiac. There is substantial amount of physical evidence he was NOT.

This docuseries was not good investigative journalism. It worked backward from the producer's chosen suspect and left out anything that contradicted its main theory.

The Zodiac case remains unsolved and this docuseries did nothing to bring it closer to a solution.

After seeing this well-done and thoroughly researched series, Arthur Leigh Allen was the Zodiac Killer. Of this I am certain. Others can drone on about circumstantial evidence and speculate and doubt all they want, but anyone who doesn't think it was Allen after seeing this series is deeply in denial or just doesn't want to believe the obvious. What it really boils down to is this: many people, especially armchair detectives, love a good mystery, so much so that they hope the mystery won't be solved. When it involves infamous criminals, such cases take on a life of their own and they want the mystery to continue. So when a longstanding case is finally solved, they're actually disappointed because there's no longer any mystery in their lives. They also refuse to believe that someone other than themselves solved it. It's all rather sad.

I am not super knowledgeable on the Zodiac Killer, details on the related crimes, investigation, etc... but I still found myself interested and engaged while watching this series. This series is a deep-dive into who many assume to be the actual Zodiac, plus interviews with people who knew him while they themselves were kids. (Scary in hindsight.)

While there's no direct proof implicating him, ALA and the Zodiac show a lot of similarities in their capacity to plan, scheme and cover their trails. The fact that these former-kids recall being brought to a (soon to be) crime scene, among other details, leave me pretty convinced. That being said, I'm no investigator. :) I would recommend this series to anyone curious about how serial killers maintain their "normal" appearances in between their crimes.

Zodiac is one of my favorite films of all time, and this doc adds a new compelling layer to it; a companion piece, sort of. Interviews include the real Robert Graysmith and footage of Arthur Leigh Allen and the people he hurt. It confirms how much attention to detail was put into the movie, and how important it was to some people who interacted with the main suspect. There is a lot of information I wasn't aware of and unlike most unsolved serial killer documentaries where they almost leave you wondering what the point of what you watched was, this one provides some semblance of closure. It's absolutely compelling and worth a watch.

The crucial element that was previously missing from the puzzle. Having viewed the statements of these brothers on YouTube some time ago, I had assumed that all avenues of investigation had been exhausted. However, upon watching this documentary, I am pleased to see that further inquiry was undertaken. Beyond what the brothers have stated about Arthur taking them to the crime scenes, whether true or not, it is worth noting that two Zodiac Killer crime witnesses have identified him as the attacker , One through visual recognition and another through his voice. This documental contributes to our understanding of Arthur and, in my estimation, substantiates his status as the genuine Zodiac killer.

If you have seen the movie Zodiac then this is good viewing and if you have not then watch it after . While it's very probable Allen was the Zodiac it is a bit disappointing that this documentary didn't explore other suspects because there would of been clues for them to be the Zodiac as well . Other than that it still is worth watching for the intertwined relationships he had with those children and the Mother. Guilty or not of murder he was still a child molester and yet the mother kept it secret . There should be an absolute coroner finding that he was the killer after all this time . You would of though though he would of confessed on his death bed .

This Is the Zodiac Speaking dives into the chilling narrative surrounding the infamous Zodiac Killer, a case that has captivated true crime enthusiasts for decades. The film offers a blend of historical drama and psychological intrigue, but while it shines in some areas, it also has notable shortcomings that prevent it from being a standout entry in the genre.

The Good

1. Intriguing Subject Matter: The film's exploration of the Zodiac Killer case is both fascinating and chilling. The storyline effectively captures the terror that gripped California in the late 1960s and early 1970s, engaging viewers who are intrigued by true crime and unsolved mysteries. The film shines in its ability to portray the societal impact of the killings and the ensuing panic, making it a compelling watch for fans of the genre.

2. Strong Performances: The cast delivers impressive performances, particularly those portraying the investigators and victims. Their ability to convey the fear, urgency, and determination surrounding the case adds depth to the narrative. The interactions among characters provide insight into the psychological toll the investigation takes on those involved, enhancing the film's emotional weight.

3. Atmospheric Cinematography: The cinematography captures the essence of the era beautifully. The film's moody lighting and careful attention to detail transport viewers back in time, immersing them in the late 1960s setting. This atmospheric quality enhances the tension, making the viewer feel the pervasive dread and anxiety that characterized the time.

4. Engaging Narrative Style: The film employs a storytelling structure that intertwines various perspectives, providing a well-rounded view of the investigation. This multi-faceted approach not only keeps the audience engaged but also emphasizes the different ways the Zodiac case impacted the lives of those involved, from law enforcement to the victims' families.

The Bad

1. Pacing Issues: One of the most significant drawbacks of This Is the Zodiac Speaking is its uneven pacing. Certain segments feel drawn out, which can detract from the suspense and momentum. Viewers may find themselves losing interest during slower scenes that interrupt the narrative flow, potentially diminishing the overall tension that the film aims to create.

2. Factual Inaccuracies: While the film strives to stay true to the Zodiac case, some critics point out factual inaccuracies or embellishments that may frustrate true crime purists. These deviations from the actual events can lead to confusion for viewers unfamiliar with the case and may detract from the film's credibility for those who are well-versed in the history.

3. Lack of Resolution: Given the nature of the Zodiac Killer case-one that remains officially unresolved-some viewers may find the film's conclusion unsatisfying. The lack of a definitive ending can leave audiences with a sense of ambiguity that may not resonate with all viewers, especially those seeking closure in their cinematic experiences.

4. Character Development: While the performances are commendable, some characters lack the depth necessary for viewers to form a strong emotional connection. The film could have benefited from further exploration of the personal lives and motivations of key figures, which would have added complexity to the narrative and enhanced viewer investment.

Overall Impression

This Is the Zodiac Speaking offers a gripping look at one of history's most notorious true crime cases, bolstered by strong performances and an atmospheric setting. However, pacing issues, factual inaccuracies, and a lack of resolution may leave some viewers wanting more. If you're a fan of true crime stories and appreciate the historical context, this film is worth a watch, but be prepared for a narrative that doesn't fully deliver on its potential. Ultimately, it stands as a moderately engaging film that, while intriguing, doesn't quite reach the heights of greatness one might hope for in a story of such chilling significance.