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Michelle, uma aposentada na Borgonha, espera seu neto Lucas, mas um erro arruína seus planos. O filho de sua amiga Marie-Claude é libertado da prisão, revivendo o propósito de Michelle.Michelle, uma aposentada na Borgonha, espera seu neto Lucas, mas um erro arruína seus planos. O filho de sua amiga Marie-Claude é libertado da prisão, revivendo o propósito de Michelle.Michelle, uma aposentada na Borgonha, espera seu neto Lucas, mas um erro arruína seus planos. O filho de sua amiga Marie-Claude é libertado da prisão, revivendo o propósito de Michelle.
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A grandma is hated by her daughter. When a small reunion with her daughter and her grandson turned into an incident, all things within the small family turns upside down and complicated.
I personally had not watched any Ozon films BUT I always hear great things about him. He is not that famous across the pond BUT from what I gather from French redditors - he is one of the most respected French Directors living right now. I personally had not watch a film of his since none really piqued my curiosity but this film was a nice surprise.
Firstly, the first half is too unsubtle. Its so on the nose with all the vitriol that it kind of grates AND truly made it expected that there is something that will happen.
But when it did happen, it really took speed on the pedal.
The twist and turns in the later 2/3 of the film is so well calibrated AND while very convoluted makes such a wonderful AND heartwarming film. A lovely choice to make the score whimsical score given how insane and mysterious the twist and turns the film will go. It really set this semi-serious tone. It really took time to peak up BUT it stayed there.
I think I will seek his work. While the script has its problem, He seems like a great technician. The last half of this film is great and tight - though very convoluted. I definitely think he has better films in his repertoire.
Recommended.
PS: QCinema Issue#2 - The initial video has a weird discoloration and had to be replayed within 4-5 minutes in. My Initial screening of Ghost Cat, Anzu was cancelled AND that was flaring me up. Tomorrow, there will be a typhoon AND its not getting better for me LOL.
PPS: The main actor was a former comedian lol. But the French reviews are very concerned who is the gay one, isn't it him? He was the one staying out of dark parks AND has not married. Lol.
I personally had not watched any Ozon films BUT I always hear great things about him. He is not that famous across the pond BUT from what I gather from French redditors - he is one of the most respected French Directors living right now. I personally had not watch a film of his since none really piqued my curiosity but this film was a nice surprise.
Firstly, the first half is too unsubtle. Its so on the nose with all the vitriol that it kind of grates AND truly made it expected that there is something that will happen.
But when it did happen, it really took speed on the pedal.
The twist and turns in the later 2/3 of the film is so well calibrated AND while very convoluted makes such a wonderful AND heartwarming film. A lovely choice to make the score whimsical score given how insane and mysterious the twist and turns the film will go. It really set this semi-serious tone. It really took time to peak up BUT it stayed there.
I think I will seek his work. While the script has its problem, He seems like a great technician. The last half of this film is great and tight - though very convoluted. I definitely think he has better films in his repertoire.
Recommended.
PS: QCinema Issue#2 - The initial video has a weird discoloration and had to be replayed within 4-5 minutes in. My Initial screening of Ghost Cat, Anzu was cancelled AND that was flaring me up. Tomorrow, there will be a typhoon AND its not getting better for me LOL.
PPS: The main actor was a former comedian lol. But the French reviews are very concerned who is the gay one, isn't it him? He was the one staying out of dark parks AND has not married. Lol.
Most Ozon's films have something theatrical about them; not all of them though and it's not easy to pinpoint what exactly it is that makes them feel this way. However, what is clear, that something makes them charming, character-oriented, very pronounced and beautifully down-to-earth.
The plot is quite simple at the beginning but it twists itself further on and as the whole story unfolds, it becomes more intriguing thus diversifying the genre into more of a thriller or even a detective story. For almost two hours, we are observing lower middle class family members dealing with (or not) with their past (impossible to change) and present problems (Ozon focuses on those this time, and he is being hopeful in a very sweet way). The autumn in the film is a bit sad yet colorful and very beautiful, which is an obvious allegory to a human life. We become more aware of the mistakes of the past, but at the same time we have some more life to live, and we have those significant others that we love and live for. Autumn is the right time to re-establish the values, to accept and to forgive.
The plot is quite simple at the beginning but it twists itself further on and as the whole story unfolds, it becomes more intriguing thus diversifying the genre into more of a thriller or even a detective story. For almost two hours, we are observing lower middle class family members dealing with (or not) with their past (impossible to change) and present problems (Ozon focuses on those this time, and he is being hopeful in a very sweet way). The autumn in the film is a bit sad yet colorful and very beautiful, which is an obvious allegory to a human life. We become more aware of the mistakes of the past, but at the same time we have some more life to live, and we have those significant others that we love and live for. Autumn is the right time to re-establish the values, to accept and to forgive.
Ozon masterfully tells a rural tale of family intrigue that raises more questions than is answers. That is all by design; the key pieces of the jigsaw puzzle happen off-screen, leaving the audience to speculate on degrees of culpability. Hélène Vincent as Michelle gives a masterclass in nuanced expressions. Michelle is a woman with a colorful past, one she neither tries to hide or revels in. We get glimpses of her attitude in a confident unspoken greeting to former co-workers at a funeral. In her relationship with her daughter, is Michelle the abuser or the abused?
Pierre Lottin as Vincent is equally enigmatic. His devotion to Michelle seems at first admirable, but then after a Paris visit, takes on shadows. If this pair are as evil as certain signs hint at, then Vincent is cult follower to Michelle's guru leadership.
A mother's devotion to her son is the stuff of legend, but this film suggests a grandmother's attachment to her grandson might just outstrip that. This film is both delightful and disturbing by turn. Classy, nuanced filmmaking that uses ambiguity in the right way.
Pierre Lottin as Vincent is equally enigmatic. His devotion to Michelle seems at first admirable, but then after a Paris visit, takes on shadows. If this pair are as evil as certain signs hint at, then Vincent is cult follower to Michelle's guru leadership.
A mother's devotion to her son is the stuff of legend, but this film suggests a grandmother's attachment to her grandson might just outstrip that. This film is both delightful and disturbing by turn. Classy, nuanced filmmaking that uses ambiguity in the right way.
"Quand vient l'automne" can be translated as "When fall comes". In this film this can be taken literally as the film has many beautiful images of fall but also figuratively as the film is about two old ladies who are overtaken by their own past.
The film starts with one of the old ladies serving a meal of self-picked mushrooms to her daughter. The daugther becomes very sick but survives. Because the tension between the daughter and mother was already there before the meal the question is, was this an accident or an assassination attempt? This is the beginning of a film full of plot twists.
The mushroom poisoning theme made me think of "Fiorile" (1993, Paolo and Vittorio Taviani).
The film full of plot twists made me think of the earlier Ozon movie "Huit femmes" (2002).
Compared to "Quand vient l'automne" "Huit femmes" is a purely artifical movie. "Quand vient l'automne" is much more naturalistic although not in every respect plausible.
In "Huit femmes" there are only female characters, in "Quand vient l'automne" there are also male characters, but not in a father role. There seem to be only mothers.
"Huit femmes" is a pure "who-donnit", "Quand vient l'automne" is much more of the "why-did he/she do it" nature
"Quand vient l'automne" is entertainment in the first place. It is good entertainment but in my opinion a bit less entertaining as "Huit femmes". This is due to the fact that the film contains a few little flaws. I will mention two of them.
For the first one I return to the accident / assassination question I mentioned in the beginning of this review. At the start of the film memory disorder is suggested as a third possible reason by way of a few "absences" of the main character. This possibility remains up in the air for the rest of the film.
In the second place the character of daughter Valérie is very one dimensional (and very unsympathetic). Valérie is played by Ludivine Sagnier, who can do much better. She proved this for example in (you might guess it) .... "Huit femmes".
The film starts with one of the old ladies serving a meal of self-picked mushrooms to her daughter. The daugther becomes very sick but survives. Because the tension between the daughter and mother was already there before the meal the question is, was this an accident or an assassination attempt? This is the beginning of a film full of plot twists.
The mushroom poisoning theme made me think of "Fiorile" (1993, Paolo and Vittorio Taviani).
The film full of plot twists made me think of the earlier Ozon movie "Huit femmes" (2002).
Compared to "Quand vient l'automne" "Huit femmes" is a purely artifical movie. "Quand vient l'automne" is much more naturalistic although not in every respect plausible.
In "Huit femmes" there are only female characters, in "Quand vient l'automne" there are also male characters, but not in a father role. There seem to be only mothers.
"Huit femmes" is a pure "who-donnit", "Quand vient l'automne" is much more of the "why-did he/she do it" nature
"Quand vient l'automne" is entertainment in the first place. It is good entertainment but in my opinion a bit less entertaining as "Huit femmes". This is due to the fact that the film contains a few little flaws. I will mention two of them.
For the first one I return to the accident / assassination question I mentioned in the beginning of this review. At the start of the film memory disorder is suggested as a third possible reason by way of a few "absences" of the main character. This possibility remains up in the air for the rest of the film.
In the second place the character of daughter Valérie is very one dimensional (and very unsympathetic). Valérie is played by Ludivine Sagnier, who can do much better. She proved this for example in (you might guess it) .... "Huit femmes".
I just watched this movie in Paris, and I was blown away how good is the story and how well written it is. I read that the movie won a couple of awards in San Sebastián festival and I was very curious. The film is a drama with a very dark side but at the same time with plenty of sense of humor all over. The cast is magnificent: all of them play so incredible real. Helene Vincent et Josiane Balasko deserve all the awards without forgetting Pierre Lottin, he's just amazing as the felonious son of hers. Without telling too much, the story depicts a kind of characters very rare to find in any movie. I loved how the movie surprises you with some very unexpected turns. I watched most of the films of Francois Ozon, and this one is probably one of his best works. A must watch!
Você sabia?
- CuriosidadesThe premise is based on something which happened to François Ozon in real life. One of his aunts had prepared a meal for the whole family with mushrooms which she had picked herself in the woods, and everyone got sick during the following night, except her, as she hadn't eaten the mushrooms. Ozon was fascinated by what happened, and suspected his aunt had wanted to poison everyone.
- Trilhas sonorasAimons-nous Vivants
Music by François Valéry
Lyrics by Pierre Delanoë and Michaële
Performed by François Valéry
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- Data de lançamento
- País de origem
- Central de atendimento oficial
- Idioma
- Também conhecido como
- When Fall Is Coming
- Locações de filme
- Donzy, Nièvre, França(Marie-Claude and Michelle's houses)
- Empresas de produção
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Bilheteria
- Faturamento bruto nos EUA e Canadá
- US$ 138.626
- Fim de semana de estreia nos EUA e Canadá
- US$ 5.797
- 6 de abr. de 2025
- Faturamento bruto mundial
- US$ 6.765.683
- Tempo de duração
- 1 h 44 min(104 min)
- Cor
- Proporção
- 1.85 : 1
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