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O Nosso Segredo

Título original: The Invisible Woman
  • 2013
  • R
  • 1 h 51 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
6,1/10
11 mil
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Ralph Fiennes and Felicity Jones in O Nosso Segredo (2013)
At the height of his career, Charles Dickens meets a younger woman who becomes his secret lover until his death.
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No auge de sua carreira, Charles Dickens conhece uma mulher mais jovem que se torna sua amante secreta até sua morte.No auge de sua carreira, Charles Dickens conhece uma mulher mais jovem que se torna sua amante secreta até sua morte.No auge de sua carreira, Charles Dickens conhece uma mulher mais jovem que se torna sua amante secreta até sua morte.

  • Direção
    • Ralph Fiennes
  • Roteiristas
    • Abi Morgan
    • Claire Tomalin
  • Artistas
    • Ralph Fiennes
    • Felicity Jones
    • Kristin Scott Thomas
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    6,1/10
    11 mil
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Ralph Fiennes
    • Roteiristas
      • Abi Morgan
      • Claire Tomalin
    • Artistas
      • Ralph Fiennes
      • Felicity Jones
      • Kristin Scott Thomas
    • 74Avaliações de usuários
    • 116Avaliações da crítica
    • 75Metascore
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
    • Indicado a 1 Oscar
      • 1 vitória e 7 indicações no total

    Vídeos11

    International Trailer
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    U.S. Trailer
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    The Invisible Woman: A Profound Secret
    Clip 0:52
    The Invisible Woman: A Profound Secret
    The Invisible Woman: Birthday Gift
    Clip 1:39
    The Invisible Woman: Birthday Gift
    The Invisible Woman: End
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    The Invisible Woman: End
    The Invisible Woman: Nelly's Reputation
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    The Invisible Woman: Nelly's Reputation

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    Ralph Fiennes
    Ralph Fiennes
    • Charles Dickens
    • (as Mr. Ralph Fiennes)
    Felicity Jones
    Felicity Jones
    • Nelly
    • (as Ms. Felicity Jones)
    Kristin Scott Thomas
    Kristin Scott Thomas
    • Mrs. Frances Ternan
    • (as Ms. Kirstin Scott Thomas)
    Tom Hollander
    Tom Hollander
    • Wilkie Collins
    • (as Mr. Tom Hollander)
    John Kavanagh
    John Kavanagh
    • Rev. William Benham
    • (as Mr. John Kavanagh)
    Tom Attwood
    • Mr. Lambourne
    • (as Mr. Tom Atwood)
    Susanna Hislop
    • Mary
    • (as Ms. Susanna Hislop)
    Tom Burke
    Tom Burke
    • Mr. George Wharton Robinson
    • (as Mr. Tom Burke)
    Tommy Curson-Smith
    • Geoffrey
    • (as Mr. Tommy Curson-Smith)
    David Collings
    David Collings
    • Governor
    • (as Mr. David Collings)
    Michael Marcus
    Michael Marcus
    • Charley Dickens
    • (as Mr. Michael Marcus)
    Perdita Weeks
    Perdita Weeks
    • Maria Ternan
    • (as Ms. Perdita Weeks)
    Richard McCabe
    Richard McCabe
    • Mr. Mark Lemon
    • (as Mr. Richard McCabe)
    Gabriel Vick
    Gabriel Vick
    • Mr. Berger
    • (as Mr. Gabriel Vick)
    Mark Dexter
    Mark Dexter
    • Mr. Augustus Egg
    • (as Mr. Mark Dexter)
    Joseph Paxton
    • Mr. Pigott
    • (as Mr. Joseph Paxton)
    Sophie Russell
    • Miss Ellen Sabine
    • (as Ms. Sophie Russell)
    Christos Lawton
    Christos Lawton
    • Mr. Evans
    • (as Mr. Christos Lawton)
    • Direção
      • Ralph Fiennes
    • Roteiristas
      • Abi Morgan
      • Claire Tomalin
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    7AlsExGal

    Ralph Fiennes as a director

    The titular Invisible Woman is Nelly Ternan, the young woman who became Charles Dickens' (1812-1870) mistress. How this liaison came about was a complete surprise to me and therefore must remain unsaid since it would IMO constitute a spoiler (most folks plow right through spoiler alerts anyway so that won't work). Nelly is played by Felicity Jones and Kristin Scott Thomas plays Nelly's mother, both who are more than competent but who have unspectacular roles.

    It's all Ralph Fiennes who plays Dickens as ebullient, enthusiastic, and even flamboyant and is given a great opportunity to shine, which he does.. He also directs and was not originally set to play the lead but they couldn't find anyone else. Fiennes dominates the film so and yet the best parts for me was the work of an actress named Joanna Scanian who plays poor Mrs Dickens. Short and rotund and with an appearance of possible simple-mindedness (first impression) she rallies and practically steals the show. She is intelligent, perspicacious in how she views her husband, and is quietly courageous in an awkward scene with Nelly.

    After reading the separation letter from Charles, her breakdown is severe yet restrained exhibiting an extraordinary piece of slice-of-life acting. If Charles likeability, which is considerable, is to make us forgive him for his treatment of his wife, it will have to withstand the effect of her scenes, which makes us look at him more harshly. And yet she doesn't attack him directly, it's her person that effects us (and with very little screen time). After reading a little of the history, the film seems a faithful rendering.
    6philrich-785-393285

    A jigsaw puzzle with many missing pieces

    A 6 or a 7? I went with 6, but would have preferred 6.5.

    The film is beautifully made, which is no surprise, with beautiful costumes and scenery from the Victorian era, as well as being beautifully acted and well produced. However, although loosely based on the biographical book of the same name (The Invisible Woman), the plot line is vague and esoteric; that is, "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest."

    We see glimpses into the life and behaviors of Dickens, his mistress Ellen "Nelly" Ternan, and Dickens' wife, but the film provides little depth or detail, and certainly no explanation for the meaning of these glimpses, or even a clear time line. If you know enough about Dickens ahead of time it will make sense; if not, it will remain a mystery (such as, "what was that scene about?") unless you, as I did this morning, start learning more about Dickens' life as he lived it, including better understanding the book the film was based upon. We see otherwise unexplained glimpses into the life of Dickens and Nelly, some of which seem to be inaccurate dramatizations (poetic license?), which have little meaning on their own, and leave you wondering what just happened, and why was that important. You'll get the overall picture, but it will be like a jigsaw puzzle with many missing pieces, some of which , because of those missing pieces, are actually incorrectly put together. If you're not already familiar with the life of Dickens and Ternan, read up on Dickens before you go, or be prepared to read up on him after you see the movie. But don't otherwise expect to come up with a clear picture of anything, except that Dickens and Ternan had a long-standing affair that affected her past his death.
    5pwiltsh

    The Invisible Woman - A Sexual Fantasy

    Claire Tomalin in the first chapter of 'The Invisible Woman' states that Fanny and Ellen Ternan were 'written out of any biographies of both Dickens and Trollope for two reasons'. Thus begins the first of many such statements that appear in her book that can't be substantiated. They are not facts, though they are presented as such. Any film based on the book by Claire Tomalin can only suffer, as a result, from the contrived nature and bias of the book.

    Yes, this film might have deserved 8 out of 10 stars if Charles Dickens hadn't come into it and it was simply the story of a writer who had an affair with a much younger woman in Victorian times. Unfortunately, Charles Dickens does come into it, and he has come into it in every review and discussion about this film that I've come across so far.

    The first half of Ralph Fiennes' film is beautifully nuanced and utterly delightful in its depiction of Dickens and his relationship with the Ternan family through their mutual love of the theatre. The developing relationship between Dickens and Ellen Ternan is persuasive in cinematic terms - until the downward slide into the mire of 'revelations' spawned by Claire Tomalin's book.

    Stripped of meaningful content, cinematography and acting too become meaningless. When a film is based on the life of a great writer like Charles Dickens, those who have read widely about his life and work will feel uneasy when he is taken out of context to fulfil a role aggressively forced on him by a less than scrupulous biographer or film maker. The so-called 'revelations' translated to film may spoil one's enjoyment of the narrative as surely as a poor reproduction of a film to a DVD will lessen its visual impact.

    Those who have a scant knowledge of Dickens and his work will more easily be able to accept this depiction of the writer and the man. Sadly, like many of the reviewers and others connected with the film, they may then become 'authorities' on Charles Dickens and his relationship with Ellen Ternan and busily go about perpetuating myths and gross distortions of facts.

    By the time furtive sex is followed by the birth of a still-born child and Dickens and Ellen appear unchaperoned in the Staplehurst train crash, the sound of Nelly's pacing on the beach at Margate becomes deafening - but also more laboured. We enter a world of fiction that is not nearly so satisfying. The more the film strays from known sources and tries to convince, the more it flounders and disappoints.

    One can only hope someone makes another film about Charles Dickens that does justice to everyone in a way that saves them from the strange mix of sexual fantasy and strident feminism they appear to have generated. While Nelly suffers from not having the reasons for the secrecy surrounding her relationship fully explored, Catherine Dickens and George Wharton Robinson suffer in a way that endows them with as much character as a couple of wooden pieces in a jig-saw puzzle.

    'It would be a far, far better thing' to stay home and read Dickens' letters or other biographies or more of Dickens' own writing or Edward Wagenknecht's 'Dickens and the Scandalmongers' or more about the social and sexual mores of the time than to believe this film could possibly shed any light on the less stereotypical but more complex relationship between Charles Dickens and Ellen Ternan.
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    Mrs. Dickens is the truly invisible woman.

    So much so that her husband forgets to name her when introducing his family. Charles Dickens was always fascinated by very young, slender, virginal girls, they are venerated in all his novel. His wife had been such a girl when he married her, but after giving him ten children in a period without anesthetic, she has naturally gained weight and aged. He may tell himself the classic, "my wife doesn't understand me," but it's clear he really just wants a new young, slender girl. The film itself doesn't seem to buy the story that his wife is intellectually boring but instead clearly shows Dickens flinching in disgust when he looks at his wife.

    Neither are we shown any brilliance of mind in Nelly as the actress maintains a slack jawed, rabbit-like expression through most of her scenes.

    Most biographies depict Dickens as not only treating his wife as invisible, but openly ridiculing her and inventing ways to be cruel to her. We see an example of that here when he makes her take his gift of jewelry to his mistress.

    Why we should find this affair romantic I don't know. It's boring and trite and, worst of all, taints any future reading of his novels. A film about the life of Catherine Dickens sounds much more interesting.
    6estebangonzalez10

    Dickens the player

    "Every human creature is a profound secret and mystery to every other."

    In this follow up to his directorial debut, Coriolanus, Ralph Fiennes directs himself as Charles Dickens focusing on a specific period of his life rather than on a full blown biography. I am a huge fan of Dickens' work and have read many of his novels, but this film focuses on his later years after he had become a successful and respected writer. He was a very popular figure during the Victorian Age and we get glimpses of this here in The Invisible Woman as he struggles to hide his affection for a teenage stage actress he encounters named Nelly Ternan (played by Felicity Jones). Dickens is married, but he finds no fulfillment in his wife who doesn't understand his work. But since he's such a public figure, he must keep his affair a secret which is something Nelly finds hard to accept. This period piece stands out visually thanks to the beautiful costume design and setting which transports us to the Victorian Age. The Oscar nomination for achievement in costume design was well deserved although it lost out to The Great Gatsby. The performances from Felicity Jones and Ralph Fiennes were superb and the chemistry between them was strong, but the major issue with this film has to do with its slow pacing. The film is a little less than two hours long, but it feels like much more. However it's hard to resist this film due to the charm that Fiennes' Dickens evokes on the viewer. We have read his novels where he bears his soul about his troubled and difficult past (David Copperfield is my favorite work of his and it is his most autobiographical one), but I really never pictured him as this successful writer who enjoyed the spotlight and had such charisma. Its that very essence of Dickens that got me through the movie.

    The Invisible Woman was adapted by Abi Morgan from Claire Tomalin's book and it focuses on Dickens' affair from Nelly's point of view as she dealt with the pain of their secret relationship despite having a privileged life. Everything about this period piece looks beautiful, but still it feels like its missing something and I quite can't figure it out yet. I can't fully grasp the mystery as to why Nelly accepted to live this life while internally she despised herself for it. The film doesn't bear her soul, but only shows signs of this externally through her strong performance. She is troubled and despite her admiration for Dickens' work we don't see that same passion in her eyes that he shares for her. The supporting performances from Kristin Scott Thomas, Tom Hollander, and Joanna Scanlan do lift the movie. Scanlan plays an important role as Dickens' wife as she comes to grasp the reality of her husband's affair. It's the poor way she's treated by Dickens that turns her off. However, Dickens is so charming that it's hard not to like him. Scott Thomas plays Nelly's mother and she is the one that convinces her to accept the life Dickens offers her. The film explores this complex relationship and it succeeds in most part thanks to the strong performances but it still fails to engage us more in their world. Just like Nelly's repressed emotions, the film at times feels repressed and doesn't quite manage to open up for the audience.

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      Ralph Fiennes and Felicity Jones appeared in Caindo no Mundo (2010), in which they played father and daughter. In a 2013 interview with Jones and Fiennes on National Public Radio, Jones said that it was "weird" and "very Freudian" to go from playing one relationship to the other, but Fiennes disagreed, saying "It's just a job. Come on."
    • Erros de gravação
      When collecting cash for the hospital, there is an 1895 Crown coin on the plate. Charles Dickens died in 1870.
    • Citações

      Charles Dickens: A wonderful fact to reflect upon, that every human creature is a profound secret and mystery to every other.

      Nelly: Until that secret is given to another to look after. And then perhaps two human creatures may know each other.

    • Cenas durante ou pós-créditos
      The full cast list (in order of appearance) is presented in the style of a Dickens era theatre programme, with contemporary font and the performers' names preceded by "Mr." or "Ms."
    • Conexões
      Featured in Film '72: Episode dated 30 January 2014 (2014)
    • Trilhas sonoras
      Sir Roger de Coverly
      (uncredited)

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      [Dickens dances with Nelly]

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 21 de fevereiro de 2014 (Reino Unido)
    • Países de origem
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      • 4 Princelet Street, Shoreditch, Londres, Inglaterra, Reino Unido
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