Uma análise do relacionamento entre Sêneca e Nero, o infame imperador que foi seu mentor desde a infância e que o acusou de planejar seu assassinato.Uma análise do relacionamento entre Sêneca e Nero, o infame imperador que foi seu mentor desde a infância e que o acusou de planejar seu assassinato.Uma análise do relacionamento entre Sêneca e Nero, o infame imperador que foi seu mentor desde a infância e que o acusou de planejar seu assassinato.
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Seneca was a stoic philosopher and moralist known today for his letters, dialogs and plays, all of which are readily available and eminently readable. He survived the brutal reign of Caligula, was exiled under Claudius, and was a tutor and advisor to Nero. Like many close to this emperor (or Mr. President in the film), Seneca did not survive the experience, and committed suicide in 65 AD on orders of Nero.
Malkovich delivers a fine performance while quoting various Senecan type things. It's very close to a monologue. Being an art film, it has some very weird twists, most of which fall very flat indeed - from Nero's sunglasses to the bizarre paper-mache microphone and the bizarre staging of the play-within-a-play, Seneca's own Thyestes. That aside, it's an interesting meditation on death, and worth watching if you're a fan of the classics.
The modernization and attempted comparison to modern falls flat, and spoils what might have been a fascinating stoic 'letter' to the present.
Malkovich delivers a fine performance while quoting various Senecan type things. It's very close to a monologue. Being an art film, it has some very weird twists, most of which fall very flat indeed - from Nero's sunglasses to the bizarre paper-mache microphone and the bizarre staging of the play-within-a-play, Seneca's own Thyestes. That aside, it's an interesting meditation on death, and worth watching if you're a fan of the classics.
The modernization and attempted comparison to modern falls flat, and spoils what might have been a fascinating stoic 'letter' to the present.
My library provides Kanopy as a streaming service. Tonight we decided to try "Seneca."
The plot, the setting, the characters remind me of stage plays that take themselves too seriously and after a while make the audience go to the restroom for some fresh air. I'm halfway through it and can't decide if I want to keep going. I think I've already got the message and it is not reassuring. We are all in trouble and good people cannot stop it hurtling at us.
I can't stop thinking of my own era as I watch this film. Things in the U. S. are even worse than when the film was made. There is a ton of connections to the era I find myself in.
Just in the last few days Trump's E. P. A. Has turned its back on important climate legislation here and in the world, the President is on a tear because he wants us to look elsewhere (Epstein, Obama, 2016 election, "nasty people," more) instead of at his behaviors and desires. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has shut down because of funding cuts, we're getting pseudoscience regarding the nature of carbon in the atmosophere, for lack of funds my state has closed down major programs and our access to records in our historic Minnesota Historical Society that was founded before statehood, the air in my state has been unsafe for many days this summer because of planetary wildfires, the ocean warming is causing conditions for hurricanes, the Supreme Court has condoned rogue opinions promulgated by haters against our citizens and the years of cumulative advance toward a better life for the many, the nighttime temperatures for the planet have inched forward to prevent essential cooling that thwarts overly high daytime temps, the Administration's eccentric announcements about tariffs and tribute to be paid by nations who negotiate "deals" with Trump have caused whipsaw movements in the stock market and made impossible the creation of an orderly business climate. Knowledge is now considered boring and the Constitution is only a set of guidelines, not a sacred document, a contract between Americans for the betterment of all. The founding fathers never planned on Nero wanting the Presidency.
Messengers appear out of nowhere to tell us that we have no power. The costumes of the film players look like Zippy the Clown of the comic strips, but the maddening passivity of Zippy is also present. No one one speaks clearly on behalf of any forces that oppose the Trump juggernaut. Our citizens have shown their disdain for tradition, truth, longterm goals, and kindness to the rest of the world and our own grandchildren's generation. Yes, Seneca is threatened by Nero with death. Will he die? We see the juggernaut approaching. No one can help him. Cynicism and selfishness override altruism and good faith. If Seneca, Nero's mentor, gets killed by Nero, well, hey. So it goes.
Please pass me the bowl of chips and a beer.
The plot, the setting, the characters remind me of stage plays that take themselves too seriously and after a while make the audience go to the restroom for some fresh air. I'm halfway through it and can't decide if I want to keep going. I think I've already got the message and it is not reassuring. We are all in trouble and good people cannot stop it hurtling at us.
I can't stop thinking of my own era as I watch this film. Things in the U. S. are even worse than when the film was made. There is a ton of connections to the era I find myself in.
Just in the last few days Trump's E. P. A. Has turned its back on important climate legislation here and in the world, the President is on a tear because he wants us to look elsewhere (Epstein, Obama, 2016 election, "nasty people," more) instead of at his behaviors and desires. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting has shut down because of funding cuts, we're getting pseudoscience regarding the nature of carbon in the atmosophere, for lack of funds my state has closed down major programs and our access to records in our historic Minnesota Historical Society that was founded before statehood, the air in my state has been unsafe for many days this summer because of planetary wildfires, the ocean warming is causing conditions for hurricanes, the Supreme Court has condoned rogue opinions promulgated by haters against our citizens and the years of cumulative advance toward a better life for the many, the nighttime temperatures for the planet have inched forward to prevent essential cooling that thwarts overly high daytime temps, the Administration's eccentric announcements about tariffs and tribute to be paid by nations who negotiate "deals" with Trump have caused whipsaw movements in the stock market and made impossible the creation of an orderly business climate. Knowledge is now considered boring and the Constitution is only a set of guidelines, not a sacred document, a contract between Americans for the betterment of all. The founding fathers never planned on Nero wanting the Presidency.
Messengers appear out of nowhere to tell us that we have no power. The costumes of the film players look like Zippy the Clown of the comic strips, but the maddening passivity of Zippy is also present. No one one speaks clearly on behalf of any forces that oppose the Trump juggernaut. Our citizens have shown their disdain for tradition, truth, longterm goals, and kindness to the rest of the world and our own grandchildren's generation. Yes, Seneca is threatened by Nero with death. Will he die? We see the juggernaut approaching. No one can help him. Cynicism and selfishness override altruism and good faith. If Seneca, Nero's mentor, gets killed by Nero, well, hey. So it goes.
Please pass me the bowl of chips and a beer.
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John Malkovich is amazing in this movie!! Despite being the great philosopher, the character Seneca is shown as a human being, with back and forth and reevaluation of his thoughts and feelings, almost letting the audience enter his mind. His opinions though are unaltered and consistently recited from Seneca throughout the movie, mostly to the regret of his companions.
Incredible work also by Robert Schwentke who put the movie into a somehow theatrical setting. At some points he leaves the audience in question with modern requisites and scenery in the picture only to reveal their meaning in the end.
I saw this movie at the Berlinale '23 and it left me laughing, disgusted and enlightened. In its unique style, it didn't fail as delightful food for thought.
Incredible work also by Robert Schwentke who put the movie into a somehow theatrical setting. At some points he leaves the audience in question with modern requisites and scenery in the picture only to reveal their meaning in the end.
I saw this movie at the Berlinale '23 and it left me laughing, disgusted and enlightened. In its unique style, it didn't fail as delightful food for thought.
Senator Seneca (John Malkovich) is a close advisor and supporter of Emperor Nero (Tom Xander). He has been Nero's teacher since childhood. He talks non-stop and constantly advises Nero to be an ethical ruler. As Nero becomes tyrannical, he is forced to bend his views into excusing Nero's excesses. After an attempt on Nero's life, an innocent Seneca is still accused. Nero gives him the gift of taking his own life.
This is a historical dramatization of the Stoic Seneca. It's a smallish production with a nice cast led by Malkovich. It reminds me of a play in the park except it's in beautiful Morocco locations. I find myself drawing parallel lines between this movie and the present day. Some connections are more clearer than others. It's funny that he asks why bad things happen to good people. That's probably my high point. All his excuses ring very real for today. I'm less interested in his decline and his declaration of the Roman decline. He is centuries too early for Rome and anyone comparing this with America is probably almost as early.
This is a historical dramatization of the Stoic Seneca. It's a smallish production with a nice cast led by Malkovich. It reminds me of a play in the park except it's in beautiful Morocco locations. I find myself drawing parallel lines between this movie and the present day. Some connections are more clearer than others. It's funny that he asks why bad things happen to good people. That's probably my high point. All his excuses ring very real for today. I'm less interested in his decline and his declaration of the Roman decline. He is centuries too early for Rome and anyone comparing this with America is probably almost as early.
The film adaptation of Seneca's "On the Creation of Earthquakes" unfortunately misses the mark. While the philosophical ideas in the original work are fascinating, the film version fails to capture the essence of the text. Instead, the film creates a badly theatrical style that is always over-explaining jokes and making edgy commentary. This is a shame because the philosopher is portrayed extremely badly in the film, and his ideas are not given the attention they deserve.
I had the opportunity to watch this film during its premier week at the Berlinale festival, and unfortunately, many people left before the film ended due to how bad it was. While the idea of adapting Seneca's work for the big screen is admirable, this particular attempt falls short of expectations. The film fails to convey the beauty and depth of the original work, and instead opts for a style that tries too hard to be clever and edgy.
In conclusion, while the film adaptation of Seneca's "On the Creation of Earthquakes" has its merits, the overall execution leaves much to be desired. The badly theatrical style, combined with the over-explaining of jokes and edgy commentary, detract from the philosophical ideas that are at the core of the original work. It is unfortunate that the film did not do justice to the brilliance of Seneca's ideas.
I had the opportunity to watch this film during its premier week at the Berlinale festival, and unfortunately, many people left before the film ended due to how bad it was. While the idea of adapting Seneca's work for the big screen is admirable, this particular attempt falls short of expectations. The film fails to convey the beauty and depth of the original work, and instead opts for a style that tries too hard to be clever and edgy.
In conclusion, while the film adaptation of Seneca's "On the Creation of Earthquakes" has its merits, the overall execution leaves much to be desired. The badly theatrical style, combined with the over-explaining of jokes and edgy commentary, detract from the philosophical ideas that are at the core of the original work. It is unfortunate that the film did not do justice to the brilliance of Seneca's ideas.
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